Worst Of These Mid-Late 90s UK Bands?

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I never got why Bluetones were so hated. Was it because they were seen as bandwagon hoppers?
Nah, I think it was cos of the records. Also, I saw them twice in '95 and they were fucking terrible.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

"You don't have to have the solution You've just got to understand the problem"

Fit this lyric in a song. No, that does not fit.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's not fit either.

Octopus and Heavy Stereo fan will be disappointed with this list.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

Do it!

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Perfume, anyone? And how could we forget Northern Uproar? Or Hurricane #1?

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol Hurricane #1 were a particular hate of mine cos I was a big Ride fan pre-Britpop.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've listened to The Bluetones several times over the last year, having not listened to them for about 8-10 years prior, and they're actually alright. Good guitarist, good drummer, by the second album actually doing some quite interesting not-Britpop-at-all-really things.

Gomez's first album was alright; again, not really Britpop. More Beck goes proper blues. I guess they were seen as "inauthentic student scum" though. One of their later albums, forget the title, is really good, very eclectic, great production, electronics and brass and pop hooks.

Embrace and Ash I guess both survived way beyond Britpop and kept knocking out charting singles for years afterwards.

Travis' first album was actually pretty good, when they still rocked a bit.

Longpigs had about three great singles on the first album. A mate swears blind the second album is a lost classic.

Shed 7 at least had some decent singles, Dolphin and a handful off the second record.

Homegrown by Dodgy is, I'd say, a pretty classic Britpop record; embodies a lot of the spirit of that without the nastiness, sounds very of its time rather than being totally retro, still hasn't dated that badly, great production, some awesome arrangements. Shame Free Peace Sweet is FUCKING HORRIFIC.

Kula Shaker amusingly goofy until nazi breakout.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

Space are the most obnoxiously scouse act in history. And obnoxious scouse <<<<<<<<< obnoxious any other region.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Space were fucking horrific. OCS fucking horrific and sneeringly unpleasant and snobbish too. Catatonia uergh uergh uergh.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 Colours Red should really be in a different 'Britrock' poll, which I'm considering doing but for the fact that the bands that would feature don't get enough recognition on ILM

Do it!

-- Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:28 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Would vote in this poll too, FWIW.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

Why do the Britishes hate Sleeper so much? Granted, their presence in the US was small, but everyone who knew who they were kind of liked them.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Louise Wener's horrific media persona, at a guess.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Where is Silver Sun useless straight-to-MVE band?"

Everything else they ever did is pretty useless but Lava is better than anything by anyone on this list.

(but don't listen to me, I still have way too many AC Acoustics records)

Where is awful Feeder band, or is that one for the 3CR Britrock poll?

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think you had to have read interviews with the singer in MM, NME etc to feel the tr00 hate. She was pretty obnoxious to say the least.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

I still like Gene. No guilt.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

I liked Sleeper when I first heard Delicious at the indie disco, I still have that one. But yeah subsequently became annoying extremely quickly.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Her voice sounds like her challops too, which doesn't help.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

That "Alice" 7" is still one of my favorite singles ever.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

This is quite hard, but the Sterophonics trump it for still turning up to bother me on occasion.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bands who have something, however tiny, that makes me not utterly despise them: Dodgy, Gene, Longpigs, Travis, Seahorses at a long stretch.

Scum de la scum: 3-way tie between Kula Kubes, Ocean Colour Scone and Space. I'm legally obliged not to vote for Space so I think I'm gonna vote OCS for not only being shit above and beyond but for simultaneously invoking the smug twattery of Paul Weller and Chris Evans.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ocean Duller Scene

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol Hurricane #1 were a particular hate of mine cos I was a big Ride fan pre-Britpop.

I fell asleep standing up at a Hurricane #1 gig. according to my mates I was actually snoring!

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Her voice sounds like her challops too, which doesn't help.

Very true. I'm shuddering thinking of her.

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

One of the big problems with Sleeper was that this was the kind of malnourished, chicken-in-a-basket breast & thighs, 14-year-old boy with a vagina aesthetic that passed for sexy in the Britpop years.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Urgh, please mark thread NSFW

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Top three acts my sister and I loved to hate come their appearance on The Chart Show: OCS, Weller, Northern Uproar

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

A lot of these bands came around as I was at an entry-level point in listening to music, and did most of that via Radio 1 in the evening, so the only bands on here I can honestly say I NEVER enjoyed AT ALL, not even one song aged 14, are OCS, Stereophonics, Gomez, Kula Shaker, Travis and Supernaturals. I'm lowering the bar here to, let's say "lol blind cobbler's thumbs"

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Stereophonics?

Save for their "Dakota" which I still like, and "The bartender" for that crash crash intro and sounding like (it should have been recorded and sung much better by) the Sex Pistols...

... yeah.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

Now I'm thinking maybe I should've voted for Travis.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Why does everyone talk about the mid nineties all the time?

Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

I give Travis a bye cause they dissed Oasis in Writing to Reach You.

ledge, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think I still sort of love "Local Boy in the Photograph" but luckily "Mr Writer" was bad enough to render them permanent war criminals.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

I hated Sleeper when I had to see them in the music press every week, but I probably wouldn't be too bothered either way by the first few singles now, I thought a couple of them were a'right before I'd read anything about the band. At the time Space and Gomez made me most angry but I think now it's got to be Reef or the Stereophonics. Helps that I don't remember anything Gomez recorded.

There is no Echobelly or Tiny Monroe, for I suppose fairly obvious similar reasons.

(Though NV's post reminds me that maybe OCS deserve it for being the first band to be quite so blatant about removing any hints, however slight they were already, of FUN or LOUD or pretending to sound slightly NEW in favour of total Weller-worshipping drear, thus paving the way for Travis or the Stereophonics to ditch their dirgier rockier beginnings for utter ear-sandpapering ubiquity, or... something)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Why does everyone talk about the mid nineties all the time?

-- Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

We miss Enrique.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

Someone please do a US equivalent poll.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Enrique is really into Photek. He's made 1998 last 10 years. This year being the last month of 1998 he's a little concerned about what '99 will bring.

Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

I hated Sleeper when I had to see them in the music press every week, but I probably wouldn't be too bothered either way by the first few singles now, I thought a couple of them were a'right before I'd read anything about the band. At the time Space and Gomez made me most angry but I think now it's got to be Reef or the Stereophonics. Helps that I don't remember anything Gomez recorded.

I suppose that a lot of the hate on my part just comes from them and the other bands above being "NME music" and it was the media ubiquity rather than the music itself that was the problem. Now that I don't work in a record store or listen to the radio I never have to hear these bands again, and if I did accidentally hear them it probably wouldn't bother me that much

But at the time they were pure audio evil

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

Her voice sounds like her challops too, which doesn't help.

what does this mean?

braveclub, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

US equiv is, what, Everclear and bands like that?

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

Pavement

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

ok everyone probably thinks of this as old news and I'm not the Anglophile I used to be, so could someone please explain/point me towards the Nazi outburst from KulaShaker because this is the first time I've heard of it and it explains so much about why ppl loathe them

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah and Sublime and a host of other bands that never made it over here
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Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Crispian: (in reference to his vegetarian beliefs that killing animals is just as bad as killing humans) The principle is we've got a violent society, we always go on about the virtues of peace but we aren't living a peaceful lifestyle

New Musical Express: It's an obvious comparison, but Hitler was a vegetarian who had no qualms about murdering humans, babies included, by the thousands.

Crispian: Right, but Hitler knew a lot more than he made out. Hitler and his whole gang weren't just a bunch of f___ing psychos, they were also into magic and all that. I mean, talking about ruffling feathers with statements in magazines, I love the swastika. It's a brilliant image, it symbolises peace and the sun and illumination - it's everywhere in India. I'd love to have great big flaming swastikas onstage just for the f__k of it. It's like, that was Hitler, don't let him steal something like that from you. I mean the Nazis studied the Vedas, the Scriptures, the Holy Grail, but they were just using it as a power trip.

New Musical Express: You have a sneaking admiration for Hitler don't you?

Crispian: No...but it's a shame the baddies always get the good uniforms. Ha ha! [3].

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

Truly he was a Bryan Ferry for the 90s.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

thing about OCS that everyone forgets: they completely changed their sound! They weren't always this plodding, retro band with no feeling to their music. Their first album was quite different and the song "Sway", a single from it, was pretty good! But it didn't sell and so they went and did something a bit more obvious, which worked for them, but was hell for us (or me, at least).

Wener as a personality was awful but I like some Sleeper singles. V much a singles band tho. Could never maintain consistency across an album.

Reef don't belong here. They prolly belong less than 3 Colours Red to be honest. Sure they may be contemporary with these other bands but they have no real connectivity with them otherwise. I think they had no illusions that they were doing anything at all original, they even called themselves Reef coz it was an anagram of their fave band, Free.

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

As I remember, the "nazi thing" was that a/crispy had been in a band with some dude who was in a far right org and b/some swastika-redeemer type comments from crispy in an ill-advised NME interview + ooh the nazis, they were into their dark okkult/magick blablabla. Also c/lol, the britishes and their funny class system.

oops x-x-x-post

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

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Free Peace Sweet!, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

the seahorses vocalist was by far the worst in britpop

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

mind you, the worst singing in that clip is the drummer

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the chorus on that Glastonbury link is still fucking hysterical

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah and the worst part is by the drummer. I thought it was chris helme until i realised he had stopped and it was the drummer who was even more out of tune.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

hahaha I am having the exact same reaction I had the first time I played this; WHY IS IT STILL GOING

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

so you can hear the solo!!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

The drummer out of Space died recently, i think. (he was the Teardrops anecdote guy wasn't he?)
heard Catatonia's Road Rage on the radio today, somewhat surprisingly.

j.o.n.a, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

who on earth was playing that?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 October 2009 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

every now and then I stumble across or search out this thread and listen to that wretched Seahorses video

it is always hilarious, and then tedious

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

you talking about ilx?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 20 October 2011 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink


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