How much worse can that new music blog Idolator get?

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT - there's some ancient larry miller standup special on hbo right now and jerry seinfeld and david spade have tiny anonymous bit parts in the intro skit. ain't a motherfucker on this thread getting paid like larry miller!

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know anything about perpetua's salary (or any music journalists, really, i bet it's pretty niggardly), but if we want to talk about self-respect, looking through his blog for the first time it reads exactly like the really labyrinthine, preening press releases we get by the bin at the radio station i work at. except sometimes they are telling you not to play the song. i always end up feeling like, "great, now that i understand this i don't actually have to listen to it!"

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

how many of those press releases are still addressed to me? Jim Hanley? Dave Seubert?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i never looked at the name

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

but i am sure we still read your mail

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

not really sure how Idolator is going to pull it off, although I'd like to see it happen; not just for the sake of the indefatigable Maura Fan Club but because I think there's a real opportunity for something that combines Coolfer, the Velvet Rope, and the snarkier side of SPIN.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

things i "love" about this thread:

- people assessing the worthiness of a blog within days of its launch. clearly the phrase "sit back and watch what happens" no longer applies to... fuck, anything

- the insane rants of bloggers who are salty because someone else got the job they applied for. of course, you have to wonder with such pissypants knee jerk reactions, would these douchehammers have been any good at the job?

anyway, im gonna go back to my corne and continue to cheer maura on. GO MAURA!

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe if this blog hadn't been in development for the better part of two years, maybe if the blog was merely good instead of totally average, maybe if Idolator wasn't part of a well-financed publishing company with plenty of resources, maybe if the blog wasn't loaded with talent on the editor side, maybe if the blog hadn't kicked off with a really lame "manifesto"...what a shame it is that my expectations were so utterly high, to actually think that a blog born with a silver spoon in its mouth would actually get most things right instead of such mediocrity. I hope Idolator gets better, and it probably will. But unless it gets a lot better, it's going to be the red-headed stepchild of the Gawker Empire.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

no, don, the red-headed stepchild would be the utterly awful deadspin. idolator's fine, and definitely very good in comparison with will leitch's blubberings.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Reason Maura didn't take over Deadspin = dearth of "OMG PAYTON IS GHEY" jokes.

[hstencil mindmeld]

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahadeadspin

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to send Mr. Cosloy a bazillion dollars for one-upping a professional blogger in his spare time.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, you're absolutely right about deadspin hstencil. I'd forgotten about that abortion.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

marathonpacks, a blog I like a lot, likes Idolater. A wordy but somewhat interesting discussion of music blogs.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

with lots of italics!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

don, will you post your rejected pitch to nick denton?

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"i will do to music journalism what abc did to the 9/11 commission report"

― p@reene (Pareene), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

All personal politics aside in this thread (jesus guys, this required at least three bottles of Pepto here), my major complaint about Idolator right now is the volume of entries and the relative lack of depth in each one. I think fewer but grander entries per day would be much easier to handle and enjoy more.

I think the major demographic for this blog are people in office jobs who want to escape to netsurf for a little while, and -- as someone who admits to 'escaping' frequently -- I even find it hard to keep up with every entry.

Less entries with more depth each would hopefully breed more insightful comments. I'm disappointed in the comments as they currently stand, and it's a tricky question on how to get more out of a commenter, given the small amount of time the readers each probably has to ponder the entries while on the job.

(I rarely read blogs, so there might be ones I like better or not, and this is still a new site and it's hard to say which direction it will take. No blogs, DIY or funded, start off without a bit of unrusting first, as plenty of people above pointed out.)

― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm disappointed in the comments as they currently stand

Blame Ned!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

haha.

Again, I'm blaming the large number of entries for this. I think people would have time to elaborate more if there were fewer things to focus on per day. Just IMHO. I'm slower than most folks, though.

― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually agree with Dow Nut on the amount of posts. Makes everything too hit and run, including of course my brilliant and peerless comments (there might be lies there).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

...keeping in mind that comments in about 99.9% of blogs are disappointing to me. I'm still holding out a light for one blog that can get past the one-line gremlin-army-of-comment-snark barrier.

― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

my major complaint about Idolator right now is the volume of entries and the relative lack of depth in each one.

see also: the gawker media business model.

― p@reene (Pareene), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

true, and yet the gawker business model also works in reverse:

after the jump = let us massage our banner ad impression delivery by double serving you the article you've been reading.

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 18 September 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Idolator isn't bad for a music blog (faint praise), but against the better blogs of the Gawker empire (uh, Defamer and Fleshbot - and Deadspin is good for linking to funny shit on Youtube, and Gawker itself has Blue States Lose if nothing else), it's almost unreadable for now.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 18 September 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

ok wow that marathon blog uses way too many words.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

is wonkette a gawker blog? i like wonkette.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks mr blount

― p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

haha SOMEHOW I NEVER MADE THE CONNECTION LOL

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

pretty sure only ned knows

― p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

name names? read the thread moron - timmy tannin, pareene, other clueless 'edgy/apathetic' nu-ilx fuxx. to be fair they're all better than crypto-tories.
-- j blount (jamesbloun...), May 31st, 2006. (papa la bas)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't even know who you are

― p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link

but we are brothers in edge

― p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i totally stand by that statement! timmy tannin if you're the 'brains' behind fleshbot i'm gonna lose my shit.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link

no, dude - feel free to "browse" fleshbot

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

two steps ahead of ya!

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

pretty sure only ned knows

Just one of those things I picked up on.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i, uh, knew it too. what do i ~~win~~ lose?

― john david bootyflake (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

comment invite

― p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

My first comment will be about which regular Sunday political talk show guest/host to boil in oil.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

everyone at gawker except for that deadspin dude are better than crypto-tories.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

haha meet nick denton some time

― a|ex (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

ned if you have an idolatar comments account it works on wonkette

― a|ex (Pareene), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I know. And I'm still kinda baffled by that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

this is my rss feed:
http://www.idolator.com/commenter/timregis/

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.idolator.com/tunes/blogs/will-the-real-creep-please-stand-up-203426.php

some crappy mp3 blog nobody cares about plagiarizes wikipedia. idolator brings you the scoop, and the shocking proof!

― like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

BREAKING: tomorrow idolator will reveal lindsey_sexysxe23 on official saddle creek messageboard actually male, 15, from ohio...

DEVELOPING...

― like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

maura, why did you revive this thread with a lol???

(coincidentally, my DigiNarc Blocker just fired up)

― 0xDOX0RNUTX0RX0RSDABITFIELDXOR^0xDEADBEEFDEADBEEF00001 (donut), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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oh duh misread the thing

― Truollmas (some dude), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

i hope for their next act, idolator breaks the wrinklepaws scenestars payola scandal

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit)

― -hot-dean ge-fever- (buzza), Friday, 1 October 2010 07:27 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

why did i reread this thread? now i need a xanax

― maura, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

anyway hi guys, how's life

― maura, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

hey maura.

― how's life, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

I miss o.g. Idolator so much.

― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

You got that right.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

yeah, it was beautiful at times. it simultaneously made and ruined my life. i am still talking about it in therapy! that's something!

― maura, Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Don't sweat it, maura! This regard affirmed my faith in both evolution and entropy!

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

i love you ilx. even you, crankypants don weiner.

― maura, Monday, 14 September 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

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