Taking Sides: Let It Bleed VS. Sticky Fingers

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Sticky Fingers by a (cough)hair. Let It Bleed indeed has great songs but the production is a little stiff. I've always thought "Midnight Rambler" and "Live With Me" sound much better on Get Yr Ya-Yas Out.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Sticky Fingers over LIB cos of Sway (I think this is the kinda shit Tom Verlaine was on about when he said Television were mad into Mick Taylor), Knockin', Moonlight Mile and the picture of them all laughing inside. Plus in terms of sleeve-design we're talking Delia Smith vs Andy Warhol which I suspect is no contest.
But hell - (this may need a different thread) when are people gonna realise that nevermind the four albums from Beggars onwards - how come no-one's fave stones album is the (UK version) of Between The Buttons when it's quite clearly the most beautiful thing they ever made?

Neil kulkarni, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck when I voted Sticky I hadn't even remembered "Bitch" was on it, haha

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've long thought Sticky Fingers is better than Let It Bleed: essentially "Bitch," "Moonlight Mile," "Brown Sugar," "Sway," and "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" (as long as you fade it halfway thru) vs "Gimme Shelter" and "Monkey Man." Plus at least a slight edge for "Wild Horses" over "YDLGWYW." Neither "Dead Flowers" or "Country Honk" is any better than any of their country parodies (all of which suck). "I Got the Blues" pretty much defines generic and "Sister Morphine" is easily the worst thing on either album, but I'm always more inclined to judge albums on their best rather than worst tracks. So Sticky Fingers without hesitation.

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Mick Taylor > Ronnie Wood

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Sticky Fingers, easily. LIB is way over-rated. LIB is more consistent? Please. Most of it is mediocre. The live version of "Midnight Rambler" on Hot Rocks is a lot better than the anemic studio version on LIB. "Let It Bleed" (the song) is of course one of the best things they ever did, but there's nothing else on LIB even close to it in quality. Their attempts at "pure" country and blues ("Country Honk" and "Love in Vain") are useful primarily as evidence that the Stones without le rock is like a French meal without wine. "Gimme Shelter" is overrated - it has a great riff, but not much else. "Monkey Man" and "Live With Me" are pretty disposable too. "You Can't Always Get What You Want" is over-produced.

Sticky Fingers on the other hand kicks like a mule.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

[Worth noting, maybe, that "Brown Sugar" actually dates from around the time of Bleed...]

Both great LPs, but "You Gotta Move" (which DOESN'T) was, I thought, the most embarrassing blues the Stones had ever recorded to that point in their career, so that tips the scales in favour of Let It Bleed, altho Sticky Fingers has the superior C&W tracks. (And FAR better album art!) "Monkey Man" is THE quintessential Keith Richards rhythm-guitar-as-lead-guitar riff. And yeah, I hate the "Can't Always Get..." children's choir, but then I hate 97% of all children's choirs, so I've learned to block 'em out by now. Stormy is essentially right: I'm not a Stones fan, tho I've liked & loved (& owned) a lot of their music over the years, and still do.
And finally, Beggar's Banquet remains the only (non-compilation) Stones album I love start-to-finish.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

well, the comparison between the guitar solo in "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" and *guitar solos* in Santana has been made millions of times. So I'm busted. But my point is, that's a totally superficial comparison--stylistically the two songs are worlds apart. The Stones were always better than Santana, that seems to me to be a bit of received wisdom as well. It's a good guitar solo. I will say that "Sticky" is where the Stones made concessions to the other music that was being made at the time--they'd done it before I guess, on "Satanic," but "Sticky" is where they go "professional rock" and all that. I've always liked "Honky Tonk Women" better than "Brown Sugar" anyway. I love "You Got to Move," I think that's far and away the best blues song the Stones ever did, it really the slow-drag vaudeville blues thing.

Anyway, those four albums are all great, I see very little difference in quality amng "Banquet," "Bleed," "Fingers" and "Exile." I'd rank 'em "Bleed," "Exile," "Banquet" and "Sticky" myself. And yeah, that live version of "Midnight Rambler" is superior to the studio version. But I also think that "Monkey Man" and "Gimme Shelter" are the two greatest Stones songs, as I always say, there's just something sorta extra-musical, super-musical, that happens there--some kinda shimmer or somethin'--that occurs in those two. And as a primer in understated rhythm guitar, "Monkey Man" is unbeatable. I'm busted.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I vote for the one with "Memo from Turner" on it.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll take Sticky Fingers by a nose. But with regard to the Big Four, here's how I'd rank them:
Exile
Beggars
Sticky Fingers
Let It Bleed

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Picked this up last weekend:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_I9xlha2mUw4/SxQr6gmHrGI/AAAAAAAABWQ/ofmUStGGufE/s400/Nicky-Hopkins-Jamming-With-Edwa-342616.jpg

Had never heard of this or seen it before, but looks like it's not exactly obscure. But it's Nicky Hopkins and Ry Cooder jamming with Jagger, Wyman and Watts during breaks in recording during the Let It Bleed sessions. Not nearly as good as that suggests, but there's something interesting about it, a lo-fi boogie/blues set, quite spare actually, nice grooves, kind of fun that it actually exists and was issued as a proper LP in the early 70s. Guess the Stones could put out whatever they wanted during that time.

Mark, Thursday, 4 February 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Is it only me who finds Jagger's vocals on the title track of 'Let It Bleed' absolutely fuckin' hilarious?

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link

nope. for some reason i love how unconvincing his southern accent is on that and other tracks. let it bleed is the clear winner for me in this poll, but i also love sticky fingers. whenever i listen to those two albums i am always struck by just how pleasurable they really are.

Treeship, Monday, 13 May 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

exile, i think, is better than both of these two albums.

Treeship, Monday, 13 May 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

LIB by a nose. mostly bc Sister morphine is pretty much the worst song

sons of plutarchy (will), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link

Sticky Fingers is better. Everybody knows that. You're not really a Stones fan if you're picking Let it Bleed.

so stupid

much much MUCH prefer beggars banquet to sticky fingers

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

I love "You Got to Move," I think that's far and away the best blues song the Stones ever did

this is very otm.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 13 May 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

if i'm getting together with someone live with me is the funniest song ever but if i'm breaking up with someone it's dead flowers

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

so i go back and forth

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

dead flowers is one of my favorite songs ever. almost pushes sticky fingers ahead of let it bleed... but doesn't

Treeship, Monday, 13 May 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

let is bleed is pretty damn spectacular. but my four favorite stones albums at various points in my life have been sticky, exile, beggars and between the buttons, and i'd still take any of them over let it bleed.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 13 May 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link

yeah absolutely re dead flowers xp. top ten ever. does sit pretty sloppy against sister morphine, i guess.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link

yeah, sister morphine is pretty lame. marianne faithfull wrote it i think, so it's not even a stones song so it's a shame it's on the album. (i like marianne faithfull generally though.) between the buttons, xpost, is super classic too i agree. the cover is my favorite stones cover because it perfectly captures what the blue glow before a sunrise feels like after you've been awake all night

Treeship, Monday, 13 May 2013 02:25 (ten years ago) link

You can't like the Stones and dislike "Dead Flowers." Jagger's approach is exactly what makes the Stones.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link

most underrated stones album = the debut

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link

As always, I apply the "Which album would Michael Morley sample?" standard, so Sticky Fingers.

^^^OTM

Ward Fowler, Monday, 13 May 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link

I couldn't get into Let It Bleed for ages, apart from two or three songs - I kept trying because my two favourites are BB and SF and all three are cut from the same cloth really. 'Midnight Rambler' was the song that opened it up for me in the end, there's just something about the murky mood of that one that clicked (I feel like it could be on Exile even). I'd still vote for Sticky Fingers though.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 13 May 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

https://www.letitbleed50.com/

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 6 December 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

I sung my song to Mr. Jimmy
Yeah, and he said one word to me, and that was "dead"

For my entire life until today I've thought the word Mr. Jimmy said here was "damn."

DEAD. Currently processing this.

I've lost track of how many Rolling Stones songs this has happened with.

Sticky Fingers >>> Let It Bleed

J. Sam, Monday, 1 November 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

hmmph...for my entire life I've thought that the one word Mr. Jimmy said was dirty. Likesay, a dirty word. And that would be just like Mr. Jimmy!

henry s, Monday, 1 November 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

Some think Mr. Jimmy said, "bed".

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 November 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link


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