Molly Hatchet vs Lynyrd Skynyrd

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I've always been fan of both bands, but could only listen to Sweet Home and Freebird so many time before I moved on. The old classic Molly tunes still seem fresh and the new tunes are, well, incredible. LS has never had the attitude and grittiness that Molly has. To me LS is and always will be an incredible influence on southern rock music, but as far as pure out and out talent, they can't hold candle to the likes of Molly Hatchet, The Outlaws, ABB, Gov't Mule, etc...

Scott, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, here we go again.. I just read these posts and have YET to see a place where one of the posts said anyhting about killing someone... the only one I saw that had that anything about killing was Dan... I happen to enjoy Molly Hatchet... If you dont that is your LOSS.... and another thing you inbreed.. GROW UP.. and FYI (incase you are too stupid too know...For Your Information)Hatchet and skynard has played together SEVERAL TIMES.. so maybe when you decide to come back to earth, maybe you can learn a few things... that Dan sure sounds a lot like that John guy from one the groups that I belong too.. Just ask Kevin and WHO plays county Fairs.... Hatchet dont! Where have you been? Hatchet Rules!! and well to those that dont like Hatchet.. then I guess you all have just been deprived of what music and Southern Rock at that is all about.... other than the little bit of Skynard that you know...the only other thing I have to say is GROW UP!!!!!!Oh and I just have to say Montogermy Gentry is COUNTRY music.. NOT Southern Rock!

Karen, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four weeks pass...
The Montgomery Gentry guys really respect tradition and with the help of producer Blake Chansey, they will retain their unique sound and take the country by storm with their next album, possibly titled "Good Clean Fun". Song sound familiar? Two of my favorites Iv heard about are "Hell Yeah" and "My Town", their first single to be released in early June. Consider the future of Montgomery Gentrys success and consider the future and preservation of sounthern rock, these tow fit hand in hand. Thanks

Kyle Evans, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
I know this is a bit off topic for this board.

Danny Joe Brown is not doing very well at all, he needs our Prayers and Support at this time. Please Light a Candle.

LD, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
that's alright LD. We "ALL" know and love Danny Joe. Wishing him the best.

Cork, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
here's the deal with hatchet vs skynyrd.remember your talking about the first and second best southern rock bands ever.while hatchet is a notch above skynyrd with there hard rock kick ass songs,they just dont have the heart in there music the way skynyrd does.they are my two favorate bands in the world,but if i had to pick one im going with ronnie vanzant and skynyrd.

don michael, Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Molly Hatchet "Gator Country", were they trying to piss people off or what?

"Well I've been to Alabama, people, ain't a whole lot to see
Skynyrd says it's a real sweet home but it ain't nothin' to me
Richard Betts'll tell ya, lord, he's a rambin' man
He can ramble on back to Georgia, I won't give a damn
Charlie Daniels tells us the good lord lives in Tennessee - HA!.."

etc., there's also a verse about Elvin Bishop involving a crude pun on "Mississippi"!

dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i love that hatchet bumrush from sep 29!

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"Flirtin' With Disaster" for teh win!

eman (eman), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
four months pass...
This should not even be a discussion. Molly Hatchet were so obviously influenced by Skynyrd--right down to the three guitars.

Skynyrd is one of the greatest bands in the history of the United States. Molly Hatchet is a good band that followed in Skynyrd's footsteps.

Dan Provost, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

lmao @ the hatchet fans' forum invasion upthread.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Good fite thread. Hatchet fans in fisticuffs with whoever gives 'em the stink eye. New live Hatchet CD + DVD, Flirtin with Disaster -- Live, is pure southern rock gold. Bobby Ingram's mom bought him his first guitar, a Les Paul, when he was in seventh grade, he says on the bonus material. Dave Hlubek weighs 350 lbs. Phil McCormack shouts the pledge of allegiance! The band lines up on the lip of the stage and shakes their guitars in synchrony at the audience. Two bikers chicks in black T's dance onstage during 'Flirtin with Disaster' and they're not even that good looking. Well, good enough, considering.

Many of Hatchet's Kentucky fans are proudly overweight and middle-aged, at least as much so as Skynyrd's. "Whiskey Man" is crushing and then it's hammerdown for another twenty minutes before someone breaks out an acoustic guitar. A five minute drum solo to make you forget Tommy Aldridge and a ten minute guitar solo. Then when they went into Dixie and the the end part of Layla it brought a tear to my eye. There is a surprising and total lack of beer cans and whiskey bottles amid the audience.

Lynyrd Skynyrd is Skynyrd plus Blackfoot plus Outlaws but Hatchet is still only one old guy from Hatchet, another guy from Rum Creek and a bunch of nobodies who play really good, eve the piano player. Hatchet has the secret-that's-not-a-secret of southern rock. It doesn't matter who is playin' the tunes cause you can't remember what they look like after the show except they were big and hairy and white and loud. It just matters that they be good enough to play the songs flawlessly and carry out the vibe and attitude.

Gorge, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

looooooooooool

am0n, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I am listening to the 4th of July Credence Clearwater Revival Show on my college station. It is great.

This thread should be about CCR instead cause they own you.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

No, Molly Hatchet own CCR now because those who are still alive didn't have to sell their tunes to some guy named Saul Zaentz. And they didn't have to change their name to Molly Hatcheted and hire the guy from the Cars to play guitar like Creedence Clearwater Revisited.

Gorge, Thursday, 5 July 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Well Hatchet fans and Skynyrd fans can all relax... Everyone knows that Jim Dandy & BOA will roll you up and smoke you like a bag of dirt.

will, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

(tho these days I kind of dig Hatchet's version of "Dreams" more than ABB.)

will, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread should be about CCR instead cause they own you.

they already have their own thread(s) BIG HOOS aka the offtopicposter

am0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"Flirtin' With Disaster" for teh win!

-- eman (eman), Tuesday, February 1, 2005 9:27 AM (2 years ago)

still TRU

am0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

twas 7/4 and i was drunk guys

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

With the exception of their first three records, I think Hatchet wins the award for shittiest album covers.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/9552/molly_hatchet/images/kingdom.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/9552/molly_hatchet/images/srh.gif
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/9552/molly_hatchet/images/prowl.gif

darin, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

who the hell dosed the water supply in this thread??

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Those first two covers are kind of good in a Manowar-ish way. This shit's supposed to be fun.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

the covers are the best part of molly hatchet records! and they don't fuck w/skynyrd anyway anyhow.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, the early Ken Kelly covers are indeed great, but the prison art spin-offs they're releasing 20 years later are roffle worthy.

darin, Thursday, 5 July 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

what an awesome thread

it brings me great joy to peruse it

Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 26 March 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha ha Skynyrd are on a new comp from ultra hipster label Soul Jazz :

http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=22999

with no Hatchet, Blackfoot, Rossington Collins Band or .38 Special unfortunately. But you do get "Thirteen" by Big Star?!

Nogma (Matt #2), Saturday, 26 March 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

An oldie but goodie from The Onion... Molly Hatchet's Nightmare Descent Into Booze, Sex, Drugs 'Not All That Nightmarish,' Guitarist Admits

JACKSONVILLE, FL—The nation's celebrity-biography industry is reeling following Monday's admission by former Molly Hatchet rhythm guitarist Billy Joe Reeves that the rock band's so-called "nightmare descent into booze, sex and drugs" at the height of its late-'70s popularity was "actually not all that nightmarish at all."

"In the summer of 1979, Molly Hatchet was on top of the world. We'd just completed a sold-out tour opening for the likes of Bob Seger and Cheap Trick, and our sophomore effort, Flirtin' With Disaster, was a hit with audiences and critics alike," Reeves told Peter Briley, host of the daytime cable-access talk show Jacksonville Community Voices. "Almost overnight, we were big stars, and things started getting out of control: drugs, alcohol and constant anonymous sex with teenage groupies."

When asked if the experience had been a living hell, a nightmare descent into booze, sex and drugs that almost cost him his life, Reeves stunned Briley with his answer.

"I really wouldn't call it 'nightmarish,' per se, no," Reeves said. "In fact, it was really fucking great. Lord almighty."

Reeves' admission has set off shockwaves within music-bio circles, sharply defying many long-held assumptions about the high price of fame.

"This revelation has stirred up no end of controversy in virtually every corner of the country's $4.2 billion pseudodocumentary industry," said VH1 Behind The Music producer Doug Farelli. "If what this man is saying is true, the very foundation of everything we have come to believe about the celebrity rise-fall-redemption arc may be suspect."

Said E! True Hollywood Story producer Ellen Donovan: "One has to ask: If the excesses of fame are not, in fact, the living hell we have come to believe they are, what else is untrue? What about the heartwarming happy ending, when, after losing all their money, they go clean, settle down and start over again with a better life? Are we to believe that's all just some terrible lie, too?"

During his headline-grabbing interview with Briley, Reeves insisted that sudden fame and fortune did not result in deep inner turmoil and suffering on the part of Molly Hatchet's members, slowly tearing them apart until the band collapsed under the weight of its members' tortured self-destruction. Rather, Reeves said, the struggle, heartache and pain didn't kick in until well after the band had peaked.

"To be honest, if anything, it was the nightmare descent into a lack of booze, sex and drugs that really hurt," said Reeves, who has worked at his brother-in-law's bait shop since leaving Molly Hatchet in 1986. "The excesses of fame were just fine, thank you very much. It was the non-excesses of non-fame that were the hard part."

Jimmy Gaines, a back-up percussionist with Lynyrd Skynyrd from 1977 to 1981, agreed.

"The booze, the sex, the drugs... Those are three great things, and I miss them all terribly," Gaines told MTV News' Kurt Loder during a special investigative report on the controversy Tuesday. "As a matter of fact, I'm looking forward to starting up a second, brand-new nightmare descent into all that stuff just as soon as I can manage it."

Despite the stir his remarks have created, Reeves is not backing down.

"Come on, I'd be high as a kite, a joint in one hand and a fifth of Jack Daniels in the other, and all I had to do was play the first four bars of 'Whiskey Man' and the panties would start dropping," said Reeves, eyeing with wistful longing the Frank Frazetta painting of a battle-axe-wielding barbarian on the cover of 1980's Beatin' The Odds. "And you're asking if it filled me with a gnawing emptiness and despair I couldn't escape? Hell, no. Those days with Danny Joe, Duane, Bruce, Dave and Banner were pretty much the best thing that ever happened to this here good ol' boy, and that's a fact."

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

RIP Dave Hlubek!
https://www.pollstar.com/article/david-hlubek-of-molly-hatchet-dies-132937

Rando Hatchet googlers, your hour cometh.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 September 2017 09:02 (six years ago) link


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