It's down in one piece.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice!
But would it have killed them to have an extra room mike in there!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
hmmm any data since landing?
― Jarlrmai, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link
yes
Ha, it's all, "We've landed! Let's go home."
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link
In five minutes it'll just be the janitor, he presses the self-destruct button, Martians declare war.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Anywhere up to half an hour before pictures come back, I think.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
"It is most gratifying that your enthusiasm for our planet continues unabated, and so we would like to assure you that the guided missiles currently converging with your ship are part of a special service we extend to all of our most enthusiastic clients, and the fully armed nuclear warheads are of course merely a courtesy detail. We look forward to your custom in future lives ... thank you."
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link
they seem happy about the landing angle.
― Jarlrmai, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link
lets see if we get a debrief about the EDL telemetry.
Nice to see Jesse "The Body" Ventura there giving his congratulations.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link
No, wait, Elvis, it'll be something like this:
"We said all these worlds are yours, but we didn't mean THIS world."
They should totally slip some clips of The Martian Chronicles over the webstream just to fuck with people.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Supposedly, the solar panels open up in fifteen minutes (gives time for the dust to settle). After that, then photographs.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"It's a midwestern town, sir! Wanna go stay at your parents' place for the night?"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
At least some pictures of this angry red fellow:
http://www.scifidimensions.com/Mar00/mars_a5.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link
"Welcome to Malacandra! DO NOT BRING YOUR EVIL HERE."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link
"There's some fat bastard in a red suit telling us to get off his land or he'll sic the elves on us."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Marvinthemartain.jpg
"Oooh I'm so angry I'll have to use the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator"
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"No, no, you want the Lost Sea of Korus. That's on the other side of the planet!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"Sir, Sax Russell is bothering me about some stupid project again."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway, believe they said that more info should be along in a few minutes...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Sounds like all the basic equipment is checking out for transmitting etc.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link
link for future photos as they arrive http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/gallery.php
― jergïns, Monday, 26 May 2008 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link
somebody said big photos right? http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/25/lg_313.jpg
― jergïns, Monday, 26 May 2008 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link
http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/25/lg_310.jpg
http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/25/lg_318.jpg
― jergïns, Monday, 26 May 2008 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link
A nice flat landscape to work with (not a complaint, looks like it was an ideal landing location!)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice detailed briefing going on now -- sounds like it was a near-textbook landing all around, great to see.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Me, excited: man, isn't it great, that a bunch of monkeys like us can land on another planet?
Annoying collegue: oh look, rocks. Yay. Well, that was worth every penny, wasn't it?
:-(
― StanM, Monday, 26 May 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Your annoying colleague is very annoying.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 May 2008 08:19 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the only thing countering my glumness on a rainy Monday morning. If a landing on another planet can't improve your day, what can?
― Maria, Monday, 26 May 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
"This is an approximate-color image taken shortly after landing by the spacecraft's Surface Stereo Imager, inferred from two color filters, a violet, 450-nanometer filter and an infrared, 750-nanometer filter."
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/230118main_false_color_postcard.jpg
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 May 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't bring myself to be even slightly excited by these photos either, but I guess this isn't the probes main mission anyway.
― Ste, Monday, 26 May 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not the photos themselves that are exciting, it's that the photos are being taken...on Mars. And that here it's 2 PM on a rainy Monday in May, but there it's "17:00:35 local solar time at the Phoenix site on the mission's Martian day, or Sol, 0."
― Maria, Monday, 26 May 2008 11:41 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/multimedia/index.html
Watch the "Phoenix Landing: Nerves and Joy" video it's the flight controller reporting the EDL telemetry synced with the CGI depiction and the cheering best buy guys.
― Jarlrmai, Monday, 26 May 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
For a bank holiday, there seemed to be an awful lot of people in this here astrophysics department when I arrived, but then I remembered this was going on.
Apparently that square in the surface is a signature of water ice.
My friend works on Sky at Night. Patrick Moore shot several links into a late addition about Phoenix that they're filming later this week. "We're sad to say Phoenix burnt up on entry, here's Chris with more", "We haven't heard from Phoenix, here's Chris with more", etc. I guess this means they're going to use the "Good news, everyone!" link.
― caek, Monday, 26 May 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5b_81Uety2c
― jeremy waters, Monday, 26 May 2008 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Permafrost features on earth
― Jarlrmai, Monday, 26 May 2008 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
lol nerds. the fact that they dropped the lander from 1000 meters w/ only its engines to dampen the landing is like o_O
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 26 May 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
OMG WAIT WHATS THAT!
http://i28.tinypic.com/91fjis.jpg
― jhøshea, Monday, 26 May 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
heat shield
― caek, Monday, 26 May 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link
apparently this thing is set up 0.6° to E-W. They were shooting for exactly E-W to maximize light collecting abilities and the ammount of shade available for the arm to dig in. 0.6° = wow.
― caek, Monday, 26 May 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
http://members.shaw.ca/david.p.z.888/star_wars/pics/obi-wan_kenobi.jpg
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 26 May 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
oh noes! it's a pink arrow!
― StanM, Monday, 26 May 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link
-- caek, Monday, May 26, 2008 10:00 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
E-W = east-west axis?
i can't wait to go to mars
― gbx, Monday, 26 May 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah they basically sent it 400,000,000 miles and nailed the bullseye.
― Jarlrmai, Monday, 26 May 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
An obvious waste of our tax resources oh wait.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
What are the chances this is 100% what we think it is and they're not secretly doing some secret military secret stuff like, er, looking for radioactive oil or something?
Oh, and if there's any life anywhere on Mars (or anywhere else) and they're reading this: hide! If humans find you you're only going to be dissected & freezedried & shit!
― StanM, Monday, 26 May 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I was at a BBQ party as the photos were coming in - so I was watching all this on my phone in one hand, a beer in the other, and I suddenly had a "hey, the future is pretty cool after all" sartorial moment
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 May 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, this is from Spirit not Phoenix, but whatevs. Holy shit.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/117989main_image_feature_347_ys_full.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
alien!
In phoenix news I hear they are having problems getting the dirt in the oven for mass spec.
― Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost -- Well it's nice to know what the new Jesu album cover will be.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
That Spirit shot is gorgeous.
― James Morrison, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Phoenix watches the clouds pass by
http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/phoenix-clouds.gif
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 1 September 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Snowfall!
Remember the movies of clouds floating above the Phoenix Lander? Further study with the lander's Lidar instrument has detected snow falling from Martian clouds. "The clouds are composed of ice crystals, and some of the crystals are large enough to fall through the atmosphere," said Jim Whiteway, lead scientist for the Meteorological Station on Phoenix. Whiteway and several researchers shared recent findings from Phoenix at a press briefing today. "So snow is falling from the clouds and we are going to be watching very closely over the next month for evidence that the snow is actually landing on the surface. This is a very important factor in the hydrological cycle on Mars, with the exchange of water between the surface and the atmosphere.""Nothing like this view has ever been seen on Mars," Whiteway added.From Phoenix images and data, scientists have observed water condensing in the atmosphere. In recent weeks, as the temperatures fall in onset of winter on Mars' northern plains, frost, ground fog and clouds are prevalent. "This is now occurring every night," said Whiteway. "The Lidar is able to probe the inner structure of the clouds. It emits pulses of light upward into the atmosphere and detects what is scattered back. The laser emits pulses of light 100 times per second, so if you were standing beside the lander looking upward, you'd see a continuous green beam." Data and images of the beam show bright spots in beam is where it is reflecting off ice crystals, and also where it reflects off clouds, a few miles above the surface.The snow starts falling from a height of 4 km and fall down to 2 km. At that point the observations stopped, as they were initially set up for a limited amount of time. Further observations will be done to see if the snow is actually falling down to the surface of the planet.
"Nothing like this view has ever been seen on Mars," Whiteway added.
From Phoenix images and data, scientists have observed water condensing in the atmosphere. In recent weeks, as the temperatures fall in onset of winter on Mars' northern plains, frost, ground fog and clouds are prevalent. "This is now occurring every night," said Whiteway. "The Lidar is able to probe the inner structure of the clouds. It emits pulses of light upward into the atmosphere and detects what is scattered back. The laser emits pulses of light 100 times per second, so if you were standing beside the lander looking upward, you'd see a continuous green beam." Data and images of the beam show bright spots in beam is where it is reflecting off ice crystals, and also where it reflects off clouds, a few miles above the surface.
The snow starts falling from a height of 4 km and fall down to 2 km. At that point the observations stopped, as they were initially set up for a limited amount of time. Further observations will be done to see if the snow is actually falling down to the surface of the planet.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
:-D I love stuff like this.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Snow on Mars! Such a beautiful image, would love to see it.
― shoving leopard (ledge), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
More on the snowfall at night
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 July 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
By the way, there's carbon-dioxide snow on Mars too
In 2008, we learned from the Phoenix Mars lander that it snows in Mars northern hemisphere — perhaps quite regularly – from clouds made of water vapor. But now, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter data has revealed the clearest evidence yet of carbon-dioxide snowfalls on Mars. Scientists say this is the only known example of carbon-dioxide snow falling anywhere in our solar system.“These are the first definitive detections of carbon-dioxide snow clouds,” said Paul Hayne from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, lead author of a new study published in the Journal of Geophysical Research. “We firmly establish the clouds are composed of carbon dioxide — flakes of Martian air — and they are thick enough to result in snowfall accumulation at the surface.”Scientists have known for decades that carbon-dioxide exists in ice in Mars’ seasonal and permanent southern polar caps. Frozen carbon dioxide, sometimes called “dry ice” here on Earth, requires temperatures of about -125 Celsius (- 193 degrees Fahrenheit), which is much colder than needed for freezing water.Even though we like to think Mars is a lot like Earth, findings like this remind us that Mars is indeed quite different. But just as the water-based snow falls during the winter in Mars’ northern hemisphere, the CO2 snowfalls occurred from clouds around the Red Planet’s south pole during winter in the southern hemisphere.
“These are the first definitive detections of carbon-dioxide snow clouds,” said Paul Hayne from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, lead author of a new study published in the Journal of Geophysical Research. “We firmly establish the clouds are composed of carbon dioxide — flakes of Martian air — and they are thick enough to result in snowfall accumulation at the surface.”
Scientists have known for decades that carbon-dioxide exists in ice in Mars’ seasonal and permanent southern polar caps. Frozen carbon dioxide, sometimes called “dry ice” here on Earth, requires temperatures of about -125 Celsius (- 193 degrees Fahrenheit), which is much colder than needed for freezing water.
Even though we like to think Mars is a lot like Earth, findings like this remind us that Mars is indeed quite different. But just as the water-based snow falls during the winter in Mars’ northern hemisphere, the CO2 snowfalls occurred from clouds around the Red Planet’s south pole during winter in the southern hemisphere.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 14 September 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link