Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

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yeah that's how i came across it (uh)

blueski, Friday, 9 March 2007 20:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

seems like they're actually setting all this in the alternate 1985 of the comic:

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=interviews&id=9172

latebloomer, Friday, 9 March 2007 21:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

Your movie audience is basically where your comic book audience was when the graphic novel was written

i think Snyder is kinda right here!

blueski, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

Although superhero films tend to be more jaded, self-aware and (occasionally) subversive than mainstream comics were in the mid-eighties.

chap, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

I dunno about that. the 80s was a pretty adventurous time for comics.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but it was mainly going on around the margins and in Brit comics till Watchmen/DKR. You had groundbreaking mainstream writers like Claremont, I guess, but on the whole there wasn't any of the knowing winkery which Watchmen helped bring to comics, and which is present in the majority of superhero movies.

chap, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

Cerebus has a ton of self-referential stuff goin on in it but yeah - on the margins for sure (I only mention it cuz I've been re-reading High Society lately)

anyway I can't see this film not sucking horribly.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

Agreed. An animated High Society film, on the other hand, would be amazing.

chap, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

Cruise as Ozymandias?!?

*shoots self*

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

(sorry I just read that Snyder interview bit)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 22:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can't believe they are still trying to do this as a movie.

Alex in SF, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

well you know Hollywood, loathe to let fo of "hot properties" and all that

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they should do it as a Broadway musical!

HI DERE, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have a very dim memory of once making a poor attempt to write lyrics for a watchmen musical on ILC.

chap, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

Haha I was thinking that it might be possible as an HBO series. But you can't cram 12 very dense issues into a 3 hour movie.

Alex in SF, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

HBO series is a better idea than a feature film - the book is definitely served well by its episodic nature (every other issue focused on a diff't character, etc.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also no studio pressure to shoehorn action sequences into what is essentially a detective story/character piece.

chap, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha

"shouldn't there be a car chase here?"

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

What? Doctor Manhattan only blows up ONE guy's head?

chap, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Superman Returns is going to be legendary

Dr. Superman, Sunday, 11 March 2007 16:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

One movie doesn't make much sense but a trilogy might make more (than a TV series also).

blueski, Sunday, 11 March 2007 17:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

Christ, this is now actually in the production? I really can't see much good coming out of it. I mean, the V for Vendetta movie was better than I expected, but at least the comic had a straigthforward plot that was relatively easy to trim down to two hours, which isn't the case with Watchmen. Imagine, for example, if they decide to leave out the whole pirate comic story, since it doesn't contribute to the main plot.

Tuomas, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Is the Cruise as Ozymandias thing for real? Because that'd be a brilliant cating choice! He just needs to do the smug thing he's so good at.

Tuomas, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah why would you cast aaron eckhart when you can pay 400x as much for an idiot loon who needs platform shoes and hair dye to even start to look right for the part?

I'm going to give you guys credit that you can go compare and contrast aaron eckhart's resume with the character of adrian veidt without my help

TOMBOT, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

at any rate yeah this is going to be completely god-awful

TOMBOT, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well Zack Snyder is directing it so I wouldn't expect anything else.

Alex in SF, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

Cruise it not playing Ozymandius, I think it was just a rumour. I read somewhere that Snyder intends to include the pirate comic, which I would've thought would be the first thing to go.

chap, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

Whoops, I should've read that interview before posting, because the pirate thing is mentioned there:

You’re really going to shoot the Tales from the Black Freighter, huh?

That’s my hope. My hope is to shoot the Tales from the Black Freighter as a supplement for the DVD, for the ‘real’ Watchmen.


Funnily enough, if they leave it out, that'll make the story more open-ended than the supposedly open "I leave into your hands" ending of the comic, since the pirate story serves as (among other things) Moore's condemnation of Veidt's actions.

Tuomas, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm actually glad Greengrass isn't doing this either, actually. He's a million times better than Snyder, but I'd rather see him make his proposed film about Vietnam War Ambush/Dow Chemical Protest or even the third Bourne film.

Alex in SF, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

three hours might be do-able, but not 100-120 minutes.

That one guy that quit, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

Superman Returns is going to be legendary, unless it's a Waterworld, but I doubt it.

yeah, this was my fave bit, among S_P's many genius postings here

kingfish, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

Superman Returns is better than Waterworld. Marginally.

chap, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh that's such a bunch of BULLSHIT what you just said

TOMBOT, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

All it is is Supes lifting progressively heavier objects with some boring stuff in between. I liked the bit with the plane, though.

chap, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

it comes down to kevin spacey vs. dennis hopper, though. waterworld was a lot more enjoyable.

TOMBOT, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

UPDATES:

-Filming allegedly begins in September with a modified (inferior, apprently) modification of David Hayter's script.
-No one is cast yet, but Gerard Butler will still be in the film, Cruise still possible for Veidt, and maybe: Thomas Jane, Keanu (Dr. Manhattan?), Jude Law (Veidt).

I want Mel Gibson for the Comedian.

poortheatre, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

yes, a modified modification.

poortheatre, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

Jesus H. Just film it, release it direct to DVD and ignore it.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

HBO really needs to wise up and buy the rights to this

river wolf, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.rorschachsjournal.com/

latebloomer, Sunday, 1 July 2007 03:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

HBO needs to wise up and buy rights to a lot of comics. this, but i want an HBO series of 100 bullets really badly.

max, Sunday, 1 July 2007 03:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

animated spawn to thread. (you were so much better than the live action grubkiss)
m.

msp, Sunday, 1 July 2007 03:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

but i want an HBO series of 100 bullets really badly.

otm x 100

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 1 July 2007 05:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

SPOILERS!

One thing I've thought about the movie version is, how the hell are they gonna do the ending after WTC? Okay, V for Vendetta had V blowing up the houses of parliament, but it wasn't implied that anyone was in there (except maybe the bad guys). You'd think some producer would find Moore's ending a bit too shocking for public sensibility, especially since Veidt gets away with it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

This is one of many problematic things about a film adaptation (as is the book's sense that nuclear war is otherwise inevitable).

The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

You'd think some producer would find Moore's ending a bit too shocking for public sensibility, especially since Veidt gets away with it.

how is this different from dick cheney IRL (/cheeky)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Adapting Alan Moore movies does not have a good track record. I do not want to see a Watchmen movie ever ever ever.

That said, Alan Moore (along with Daniel Clowes and the guy that did Maus whose name I forget) are going to be on the Simpsons as themselves Oct. 7th.

jessie monster, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

What, holy shit! Is that gonna be some special comics issue?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

This is one of many problematic things about a film adaptation (as is the book's sense that nuclear war is otherwise inevitable).

To be honest, the whole "let's scare them to peace with a massive alien" bit was always the weakest, least credible part of the comic. I've never understood whether Moore really thought it was clever (he does have a tendency to do pompous, over-the-top finales), or whether it was meant to be a homage to ridiculous old-school superhero comic endings.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Alan Moore (along with Daniel Clowes and the guy that did Maus whose name I forget) are going to be on the Simpsons as themselves Oct. 7th.

!!! wtf

(was Grant Morrison unavailable?)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

same reason i never picked up Lost Girls

Nhex, Saturday, 28 July 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

^this

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

love to see how you'd "flip through" a box set of three slipcased hardcovers in the shop tbh

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Sunday, 29 July 2012 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

one displayed, unboxed

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 July 2012 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

WHERE THE HECK ARE OUR WATCHMEN?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:27 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

WHERE THE HECK ARE OUR WATCHMEN?

Nutri Grane (some dude), Monday, 30 July 2012 03:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

same reason i never picked up Lost Girls

That book is why I can't get too worked up over anything DC does with Watchmen.

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Monday, 30 July 2012 03:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good point, Lewis Carroll had spent 1971-1991 repeatedly fucking Moore and his close friends over before he took his revenge, gr8 analogy

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 30 July 2012 03:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

This thread might be of help: those Before Watchmen comics

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 30 July 2012 04:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

WHERE THE HECK ARE OUR WATCHMEN?

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 04:40 (2 years ago) Permalink


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