The Greatest Post-Punk Bands You Never Heard

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Also Grow Up.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 January 2013 07:44 (eleven years ago) link

As with Simon Reynolds's book, Australia and Germany get very short shrift

UK-centric, Simon Reynolds? Surely not.

(When I got into italodisco I looked at Energy Flash to see what Reynolds had written about it. It got a single sentence which noted that European kids listened to cheesy European records in clubs. That covered the entirety of Italian and mainland European dance/synth music between Moroder and Ride On Time according to S. Reynolds. Oh well.)

Looking forward to checking out some more of the polled bands and some of nonightsweats' Aussie bands when I'm not at work...

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

In my own mind, I use the term "art punk", and if the artist seems to fit that description, I write out the word post-punk, since that seemed to be the accepted term. I don't think of it as a genre per se, but rather something different from the received streetish reputation of "punk" and the poppish connotations of "new wave". Of course this just pushes the distiction off to how one might define "art", but it's useful for me.

bendy, Monday, 28 January 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

only heard a couple of these so i don't know but this is all-time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTctKIUlHKc

So: The Answers (or something), Monday, 28 January 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

Modern Eon are pretty good if i remember correctly

nostormo, Monday, 28 January 2013 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

There's been way too much chatter on this thread for me to catch up properly, but I just want to say... since when is saying "I like New Wave" meant to be uncool?

emil.y, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

That whole part of this thread was very strange tbh. Apart from anything else, the term post-punk apparently appeared in Sounds in 1977 so it's not like no-one ever used it at the time (cf. Freakbeat, Garage Punk, Northern Soul etc)

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 28 January 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

I have this thing at work where you can define a genre by picking a set of representative artists, and then get an extrapolation (or interpolation, depending on how you look at it) to bands like <i>that</i>. I put in this poll's bands as the seeds, and had it generate an introductory playlist to whatever it is they collectively define.

http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/31ngQVszhBHQLklebwbG0m

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 28 January 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

Or, for those of you out of reach of Spotify:

Joy Division – Love Will Tear Us Apart
Echo And The Bunnymen – The Killing Moon
Magazine – Shot By Both Sides
The Cure – Just Like Heaven
Gang Of Four – Damaged Goods - Remastered Album Version
Siouxsie And The Banshees – Hong Kong Garden
Wire – Ex Lion Tamer - 2006 Digital Remaster
Young Marble Giants – N.I.T.A.
The Teardrop Explodes – Reward
The Psychedelic Furs – Love My Way
The Chameleons – Don't Fall
Killing Joke – Love Like Blood
Delta 5 – Mind Your Own Business
Public Image Ltd. – Rise
Sad Lovers And Giants – Things We Never Did
Au Pairs – It's Obvious
The Monochrome Set – Eine Symphonie Des Grauens
The Wake – Melancholy Man
SECTION 25 – Looking From A Hilltop
The Fall – Totally Wired
The Raincoats – Lola
The Durutti Column – For Belgian Friends
Colin Newman – Alone
Lene Lovich – Lucky Number
Fad Gadget – Collapsing New People
The Associates – Party Fears Two - Pavilion Glasgow 11/03/1985
Crispy Ambulance – Deaf
The Soft Boys – I Wanna Destroy You
For Against – Sabres
Pylon – Crazy
Gary Numan – Are ‘Friends’ Electric?
The Danse Society – Somewhere
The Birthday Party – Release The Bats
Medium Medium – Hungry, So Angry
A Certain Ratio – Flight - Massey Mix
The The – This Is The Day
Altered Images – Happy Birthday
The Pop Group – She Is Beyond Good And Evil
Glaxo Babies – This Is Your Life
Strawberry Switchblade – Since Yesterday
Essential Logic – Aerosol Burns
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry – Hollow Eyes
The Slits – I Heard It Through The Grapevine
The Normal – Warm Leatherette
The Flying Lizards – Money
Wall Of Voodoo – Mexican Radio
Orange Juice – Rip It Up
And Also The Trees – Dialogue
Crime And The City Solution – The Adversary
Shriekback – Nemesis
Bush Tetras – Too Many Creeps
Lydia Lunch – Spooky
Minny Pops – Blue Roses
Scritti Politti – Perfect Way
Department S – Is Vic There?
23 Skidoo – Vegas El Bandito
The Raincoats – Shouting Out Loud
SpizzEnergi – Where's Captain Kirk?
Love And Rockets – So Alive
Cabaret Voltaire – Nag, Nag, Nag
Swell Maps – H.S. Art
Tuxedomoon – In A Manner Of Speaking
Girls At Our Best! – Getting Nowhere Fast
Virgin Prunes – Pagan Lovesong
The Wolfgang Press – Mama Told Me Not To Come
Julian Cope – World Shut Your Mouth - Janice Long 6/8/1986
Suicide – Ghost Rider
The Wild Swans – Young Manhood
Liquid Liquid – Optimo
Alternative TV – Action Time Vision
The Bolshoi – Sunday Morning
Peter Murphy – Cuts You Up
The Glove – Like An Animal - Remastered LP Version
The Prefects – Going Through the Motions
Dif Juz – No Motion
Japan – Ghosts
B-Movie – Institution Walls
Life Without Buildings – The Leanover
Mekons – Where Were You
Spear Of Destiny – Never Take Me Alive
My Dad Is Dead – Nothing Special
E.S.G. – I Don't Dance
Ike Yard – Loss
Gene Loves Jezebel – Desire (Come And Get It) (Re-recorded / Remastered)
New Model Army – 51st State
Mo-Dettes – White Mice
Lizzy Mercier Descloux – Fire
Theatre Of Hate – Original Sin
Tones On Tail – Go! (club Mix)
Liliput – Ain't You
Malaria! – You You
The Feelies – Let's Go
These Immortal Souls – Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)
The Gist – Love At The First Sight
Lords Of The New Church – Dance With Me
This Mortal Coil – Song To The Siren
Thomas Leer – All About You
Teenage Jesus & The Jerks – The Closet
Grauzone – Eisbär (Remix by Carlos Perón)
Quando Quango – Love Tempo - Remix
X-Ray Spex – Oh Bondage: Up Yours! - Live
Alan Vega – Jukebox Babe
Dark Day – No, Nothing, Never
I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness – According To Plan
The Icicle Works – Love Is A Wonderful Colour (Live Town & Country Club)
John Cooper Clarke – Evidently Chickentown
Romeo Void – Never Say Never
Breathless – Next Time You Fall
Ipso Facto – Circle Of Fifths
Danielle Dax – Big Hollow Man
Pigbag – Big Bean (12 Version)
Minimal Man – Consexual
Motorama – Rose in the Vase
Fra Lippo Lippi – Shouldn't Have To Be Like That
Close Lobsters – Just Too Bloody Stupid
Siouxsie – Into A Swan
Half Japanese – 1,000,000 Kisses
Disco Inferno – Can't See Through It
The Gun Club – Sex Beat
The Only Ones – Another Girl Another Planet
The Wedding Present – Brassneck
Subway Sect – Nobody's Scared
Play Dead – Propaganda
Adam Ant – Goody Two Shoes
Trisomie 21 – The Last Song
The Lotus Eaters – The First Picture Of You
Felt – Dirty Girl
Martin Dupont – Just Because
Mars – India Sleeping
Tom Tom Club – Genius Of Love
Dalis Car – His Box
Kas Product – Never Come Back
Xmal Deutschland – Incubus Succubus II
The Mighty Lemon Drops – Inside Out
Chris And Cosey – Obsession
Urinals – Hologram
Chrome – TV As Eyes
Mighty Lemon Drops – Inside Out
The Go-Betweens – Streets Of Your Town
The Dream Syndicate – Tell Me When It's Over
Richard Hell – Blank Generation
Specimen – Syria
The Clean – Anything Could Happen
John Foxx – Underpass (1980 SINGLE EDIT)
Kitchens Of Distinction – Drive That Fast
Anne Clark – Our Darkness
Half Man Half Biscuit – Joy Division Oven Gloves
Jonathan Richman And The Modern Lovers – Pablo Picasso
Marine Girls – A Place In The Sun
No More – Suicide Commando
War Tapes – Dreaming of You
Destroy All Monsters – Bored
Sonic Youth (Ciccone Youth) – Into the Groovey
Alien Sex Fiend – I Walk The Line
Veil Veil Vanish – Anthem For A Doomed Youth
Frustration – Too Many Questions
Beat Happening – Our Secret
Pete Shelley – Homosapien (Dub)
Red Zebra – I Can't Live In a Living Room
Bill Nelson – Flaming Desire
The Adverts – Bored Teenagers
Throwing Muses – Not Too Soon
Free Kitten – Oh Bondage Up Yours
The Vaselines – Son Of A Gun
Death Cult – God’s Zoo
The March Violets – Snake Dance
Skeletal Family – Promised Land (7” Version)
Chrisma – Black Silk Stocking
The Triffids – Wide Open Road
Red Rockers – China
It's Immaterial – Space
Iron Curtain – The Condos
The Rezillos – Top Of The Pops
Nina Hagen – TV-GLOTZER (WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE)
China Crisis – Wishful Thinking
Robert Smith – Very Good Advice
Bats – Wolfwrangler
The Coathangers – Hurricane

Hilariously, due to some screwed up credits on an old compilation, Spotify thinks "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is a collaboration between Joy Division and Chubb Rock.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 28 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

OK I'm going for the epic mix. I think this is the biggest mix I've ever downloaded.

I've been trying to get more into post-punk recently but I don't know most of these bands. I got the Ike Yard reissued album a few months ago and I really like it. Also genuine lol at the Chubb Rock thing

paolo, Monday, 28 January 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Dif Juz – No Motion

^ Have been playing the shit out of this song of late

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

I know it's not at all unknown but I still find it a staggering piece of music

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Other than New Order getting it from New York, itslodisco didn't have a big impact in the uk. America's take and filtering if Italo is a whole other question, which I've probably explained on another thread.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 January 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

lol I would have voted Chameleons

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah also missing is Rema Rema.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

That Spotify playlist is not bad. I don't use Spotify because streaming at work is discouraged, and I have a backup of my 4TB collection at work anyway. Sub-genres, labels, etc. are useful. I make use of my genre tags for autoplaylists when I feel like listening to certain kinds of music on random. For the record, I tagged the first five Cure albums through The Top as "Post-Punk," and the rest as just "Alt Rock." Depending on how specific a mood I'm in, I might create more specific playlists, as I may be in a mood for the pop end of post-punk like Orange Juice, Aztec Camera, Scritti Politti and Associates, or the more difficult listening stuff like The Pop Group, Ludus, etc. Works better than say, Rock 1.0, Rock 2.2 ;)

Look forward to checking out other recommendations like Steve Miro. I don't see the album reissues but I did find the LTM Auteur Labels Object Music comp.

For Against do indeed belong here. They formed in 1984, evolving from different bands in the early 80s, and their 1985 "Autocrat" single reflected a Gang of Four influence, and then signed to Independent Music alongside Savage Republic, and developed their own sound that's a mix of Martin Hannett's productions and what was eventually described as "dream pop" as previously mentioned. Some may not like that sound, but I do, and at least one other ILMer considers them one of the "greatest bands of all time."

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

the Individuals were mediocre watered down version of what became college rock at best (in retrospect) - why bother?

Agree they were more jangle/pop/rock than post-punk (like their contemporaries The DB's and The Bongos - neither of whom made the list above so I'm not sure how The Individuals did) - but I just want to stick up for 'em here. Still really love Fields.

I like sex, don't steal my hot dog! (Dan Peterson), Monday, 28 January 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

Within at least the ILM universe, I felt the Bongos and especially the dB's, who toured with R.E.M. in 1987 in big stadiums, were quite well known. And there's only room for so many token jangle entries! Along with defending the honor of certain bands, feel free to talk up/promote your own favorites.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

Also, this thread resulted in my discovering that there was a new Breathless album called Green to Blue in 2012!

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

I feel a little like I should be voting Stockholm Monsters but I'm going Virgin Prunes instead

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

frickin love the Embos, I was living in Wichita KS, their hometown, during their heyday -- unfortunately I was like 12 and oblivious.

jamie lee fox (rip van wanko), Monday, 28 January 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

"Julia" alone means Asylum Party win this.

just look at these fuckin guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZtT8zBaZU

crüt, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

I'd choose the Bongos any day over the Individuals or the dB's, simply due to the fact that the were a little more original and arty and were more clearly influenced by stranger acts than the Individuals or the dB's were. "Colorful" in the way the Feelies' debut was - not so drab as the Individuals or as slavishly conventional as the dB's. Plus, they were labelmates with Snatch, Clock Dva and 23 Skidoo! They collaborated on a live version of "In The Congo" with members of Throbbing Gristle and the Bush Tetras. Their song "Clay Midgets" was allegedly inspired by Young Marble Giants (they said in interviews; aside from the title, I don't see how!) Like a lot of American bands, they made the big mistake of letting their major label stuff be way too over-produced . . . at the time, there wasn't quite the support network for a workable post-punk "career" that there was in the UK, so this tended to happen a bit. And I think that sunk their reputation, although the CD reissue of "Drums Along The Hudson" can still be found and has everything you'd want.

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

(1)xp Pylon's albums Gyrate (1980) and Chomp (1983) were finally released on CD, with welcome rarities, as Gyrate Plus (2007) and Chomp More (2009). Those are the ones I had in mind. Haven't seen Hits or Chain, the reunion album, in a long time, sadly.
(2) The Bongos and the Individuals (though the latter are well-bolstered by bonus tracks) are both uneven in the studio,true. You take one, I'll take the other, but no way are the dB's "slavisnly conventional"--they're as true to their influences as hothouse Bongos, but they're also true to their own creative ambition, whether their aim is true (often enough) or not (not too often). The 2012 dB's album, Falling Off The Sky, is mostly pretty good too--although jangle is a better commercial tag for them and the Individuals than post-punk.
(3) As Dan Selzer reminds us, Acute Records provides a great trove.

dow, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

not exactly obscure but not one of the top 10 pylon songs that people seem to like imo:

youtube - Working is no Problem

LOVE THIS SONG, blast at 15x volume

Z S, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

but no way are the dB's "slavisnly conventional"--they're as true to their influences as hothouse Bongos, but they're also true to their own creative ambition, whether their aim is true (often enough) or not (not too often).

I might have been a little harsh on the dB's - they had a few interesting songs that were vaguely 'of their time' and it's decent pop - but I'd still argue that aside from a certain sparseness and a few production techniques, there's nothing on the first two albums (which I reckon were their most interesting) that someone who was a Beatles fan frozen in ice prior to the release of "Sgt Pepper's" couldn't absolutely relate to. That might make it a little odd in 1981 or whenever, but how would you argue that they'd made any significant progression from "Rubber Soul" or "Revolver?" Their music is pretty well rooted in that sort of thing.

I never saw live the Individuals, but I've always believed the only reason that anyone pretended to care was because the band members were all music writers and influential scenesters! I actually went back and listened to their best-known songs. They're bland, mostly, and when they're not, they're just not very good. They sound like that huge wake of bands that appeared in the wake of REM, far too hugely influenced by a single band. I'll give them props for actually being ahead of that curve chronologically, but it doesn't make them any better.

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:08 (eleven years ago) link

I consider Ike Yard to be something like Manuel Göttsching's E2-E4 or that Charanjit Singh Synthesizing album, stumbling across a sound quite natural to electronics that listeners didn't catch up to for a decade or more. Not quite post-punk, despite their history.

Ludus is probably the most interesting of the lot ideawise, but the albums are so patchy. Morrissey was a huge fan, and you can hear the influence of Ian Devine/Pincolme's highlife guitar experiments in Johnny Marr.

Probably like the Fatal Microbe's contemporaneous EP more than most of these artists' discographies.

Struggling, and failing to fight the pull of a Martin Hannett production. So Section 25 it is.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

Well Ike Yard were distinctly drawing from a cross section of Suicide and certain aspect of no wave (mars, implog), Hannett/Factory atmosphere (Joy Division and Section 25) and increasingly an awareness of Germany. Plus some academic electronic stuff and while they eventually reached an electronic sound that sounds way ahead of its time, it makes more sense in the context of things like NDW.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:46 (eleven years ago) link

Ludus could have been really great, but being on New Hormones wasn't a great career move for anyone, and they lacked quality control. Their best material is amazing. Their lesser stuff is godawful. Morrissey wasn't a fan so much of Ludus as he was of Linder, which was true of much of arty Manchester.

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

A lot of these are great bands, and the Rough Trade crew in particular is dear to my heart, but I gotta go with the Virgin Prunes here. No, not really goth, more like evil performance art. I'm probably gonna be the only vote but they really deserve some love.

sleeve, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard about half of these - going w/ Kleenex.

rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

The Virgin Prunes would be in my top ten. Their records were really great, at least up to "If I Die, I Die," which was fine but nothing like how fantastic the material came across when played live, and the the last one with Gavin, which exists in an unreleased and far-far-far-superior early version. But the earlier stuff was pretty uniformly spooky in a very real way, and I loved all their philosophical stuff and weird relating to the mentally ill and 'touched' people. There really wasn't anything like them, and for the many bands influenced by them directly or not, I don't think any of them really understood what they were aping. They were the anti-U2 in very real ways, and the stories of the early inter-minglings of the two bands are pretty great. "If I Die, I Die" is the easiest thing to get into, I suppose, but it always felt like a compromise - as if they'd better get their act together, because watching U2 become millionaires with about 4% of the originality and ideas that the Virgin Prunes had was just getting too hard to bear! That said, the Dave-Id sung "Ballad Of The Man" is one of the most beautiful and touching post-punk songs, even if it was intended to be a Springsteen piss-take. But the real one to get is the CD that compiles some of the "A New Form of Beauty" series (some bits still unreleased), which does a good job of capturing the band half-way between song and strangeness. "When you're down and out / Nobody wants to know you / A boy and girl running away / They won't get far." Fucking great!

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:55 (eleven years ago) link

A small selection of Virgin Prunes stuff:

Moments And Mine (Despite Straight Lines)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJY_HG2MZVg

Sandpaper Lullaby, from "A New Form of Beauty"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azSHz-5ZTXg

Their contribution to the NME / Rough Trade compilation cassette "C81"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYC09mVEkMs

The very commercial "Baby Turns Blue" from "If I Die, I Die"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IimsciWwHHk

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

Even most Virgin Prunes fans do not know Princess Tinymeat, which one of the members started after leaving the band (before "If I Die, I Die," I believe) - he sort of took some of the scariness with him. Here are both sides of a Rough Trade 12"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jkXjkyYe_o

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

Hadn't noticed the Nyam Nyam reissue until now. Surprised it doesn't include the dance mixes of Fate/Hate which is their claim to fame. Perhaps it didn't fit and/or James and co. decided it was already covered on the Cool of Ice compilation. I've played it regularly in dance sets to pretty decent response.

Also regarding the top post-punk since 2000 list on http://fastnbulbous.com, why no The Rapture? They were really the ones that represented the post-punk revival of the early 80s the best. Though it seems your list veers more towards the moody post-Joy Division side of "post-punk" and less to the funky Gang of Four/PiL death disco side.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

"Julia" alone means Asylum Party win this.

DOPE track - totally new to me!

rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

And while I'm here, I'd like to rep more for Rema Rema since nobody seems to be responding to my plug. First record to bear the 4ad logo. Featuring Marco Pirroni before Adam and the Ants, the rest of the band shortly formed Mass, who broke up and gave us Wolfgang Press and Renegade Soundwave (singer Gary Asquith). They had the 1 EP with 4 songs, 2 live and 2 studio, and they are totally amazing. They also have an obscure live track on some old comp tape and a few other live recordings that would occasionally make an appearance on Gary Asquith's myspace page.

Big Black covered them. So did This Mortal Coil. Shouldn't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWGPcA0eIY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdyd_mO9Ptc

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't like Nyam Nyam much, but their debut single was really fab. I thought after that they devolved into that sub-Facotry sound far too much and lost their edge and lacked a more distinct sound.

The Rapture were one of the few post-punk revival bands that might have appealed to me back in the day, I always have a good laugh when watching "Misfits" (which uses one of their songs as an intro) at how perfectly they mimic a certain aspect of Public Image circa Metal Box, with a slightly more disco feel, but even (seemingly) paraphrasing the lyrics of "Careering" a bit. But to be honest, a post-punk revivalist band is a dumb idea, dumber even than a Grateful Dead copyist band, since post-punk was far more about individuality than just about any other post-WWII popular music form.

I loved Rema-Rema and was sorry when they disbanded. Marco was also in Cowboys International for a few gigs at least. All the other members did other things (notably Wolfgang Press) but they really would have been remembered as legendary if they'd stuck around and made a real album.

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:05 (eleven years ago) link

XP I will be forever grateful to Dan for the Ike Yard compilation on Acute. I first heard them when John Peel played "NCR" on his show in the summer of 84, it blew my 15 yr old mind, I played my tape of it over and over again. He also played "Night after night" which I also taped. There was absolutely no information I could find on them at the time, except a small review in the "Trouser Press Record Guide". Four years later Peel played another track from "A fact a second" stating "This sounds more timely than ever" as it was surrounded by acid house. And that was the last time I heard them for years. Web searches didn't generate much hope until I saw the Acute reissue. Ordered it, devoured it, loved it. Thank you.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

Your welcome. The recent french vinyl pressing of the Factory LP has spread their sound even further than our CD.

I wasn't interested in post-punk revival bands, though if done well I prefer that to any other kind of revival band. It mostly wasn't done well, but to their credit, even within the most derivative songs they had hooks, and live at the time, they were one of the best bands I'd ever seen. I saw them absolutely destroy every room they played in the year or two up to and around the release of Echoes.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:43 (eleven years ago) link

The Rema-Rema cd single was only available off the Beggars/4AD website, which is now closed

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:53 (eleven years ago) link

"you're welcome" is what that should've read. sorry, it's late.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:57 (eleven years ago) link

I lucked out a few years ago and got the Rema Rema 12" off Ebay for something ridiculous like £2.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 08:58 (eleven years ago) link

Not familiar with most of these, I thought I was done with post-punk (I probably overdid it for a bit) but every so often someone points me towards another undiscovered gem. Appreciate the work Fastnbulbous has done here, lots to check out.

I'm voting Josef K.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

voted for against natch

the beers for lunch (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 11:09 (eleven years ago) link

The Rema-Rema cd single was only available off the Beggars/4AD website, which is now closed

It's on sale for $1500 on Discogs.com!! The digital version is slightly more affordable.

This is clearly my wheelhouse as post-punk is to me what garage rock is to many others - a genre worth constantly revisiting and digging for gold. So many bands release one great single and then disappeared (cf The Past Seven Days). Most of the bands in this poll can be represented by a single reissue CD:

The Blue Orchids - there are 2 or 3 different compilations which basically have the same tracks. I have "A View From The City". I dig it but it doesn't call to me.
Delta 5 - The "Singles & Sessions" comp is terrific, I'm not sure what sound quality issues there are. I have a rip of the LP and it's ok, but the singles are where it's at. Wonderful stuff.
Desperate Bicycles - Sadly, they won't reissue their stuff.
Diagram Brothers - I discovered "Some Marvels Of Modern Science" a few years back and it blew my mind.
The Embarrassment - the 2 CD retrospective is excellent.
Essential Logic - the 2 CD comp is good if frustratingly incomplete. I have vinyl rips of all Lora's material and it's mindbendingly good.
Fire Engines - I have "Fond" though you all should go buy Dan's reissue on Acute! I prefer Josef K but their best is great.
Glaxo Babies - I've got a number of tracks on compilations but never spring for a comp.
Human Switchboard - Downloaded all their stuff a few years back, good but didn't inspire me.
Josef K - Just picked up the "Crazy To Exist" live CD. I don't pull them out often but they really do scratch a particular itch.
Liliput/Kleenex - 2 CD comp is all kinds of crazy good.
The Lines - Dan's 2 CD reissues are excellent. I dig them when I play them but they don't stick in my brain like others.
Lowlife - There was an excellent retrospective "From A Scream To A Whisper" but I think it's been superceded by a recent LTM comp. I was an early fan of these guys.
Modern Eon - Possibly the single most criminally neglected reissue. If the Scars album can show up on CD (albeit very briefly), "Fiction Tales" can too!
Pauline Murray & The Invisible Girls - I adore Penetration and the first solo album is good though not at the same level. The second solo album never came out on CD.
New Musik - Had "A To Z" years ago. Sold it. Not my thing for some reason.
The Nightingales - "Pissed And Potless" is my favorite comp, I find the albums inconsistent.
Nyam Nyam - Just got the LTM reissue, really good. I can understand the folks who say they lost something after the first single, but not that much.
Opposition - The debut "Breaking The Silence" is on my post-punk top 20, subsequent albums (on CD but way way out of print) are very good as well.
Pylon - I have "Hits" which has its moments but has never made me love it.
Sad Lovers and Giants - Had them, sold them. They felt too derivative of The Chameleons and The Sound.
Scars - "Author Author" was reissued a few years back but is out of print again. Not quite as good as the early singles.
Second Layer - This throws a monkey-wrench for me as it's from Adrian Borland, one of my 3 favorite musicians of all-time. And I think this out-Joy Division's Joy Division. Fantastic, creepy, moody.
The Sleepers - There was a CD that came out in the 90s, live stuff and demos I think. Sold it.
The Stockholm Monsters - Another band where I've got lots of excellent compilation cuts but haven't picked up more.
TV21 - They finally got a reissue a couple of years ago, excellent power-pop but not close to post-punk in my mind.
Virgin Prunes - "If I Die, I Die" is a fabulous record, with Colin Newman's fingerprints all over it. A singular vision for sure.
Wah! - The debut "Nah Poo = The Art Of Bluff" is all kinds of crazy good, taking the best bits of early Teardrops and Echo and fusing them with Pete Wylie's over-the-top vocals. There's a great 2 CD anthology as well.
The Wake - I recently sold the stuff I had, they just never clicked for me.
Y Pants - There was a CD that came out about 10 years ago. Sold it.

These types of polls are hard, it's like thinking about sports Hall Of Fame questions: do you look at the absolute peak performance, or the career-spanning achievements? Since most of these bands put out one or two albums, I suppose peak performance determines the winner. In that case, I have to go with Opposition.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

LinesJosefKFireEngines

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Word on the street is there's some more Glaxo Babies reissues coming on vinyl.

Gerald, spend more time with the Lines, I don't know anyone who hasn't eventually gotten hooked, it just stakes a while.

My favorite song that Joy Division never wrote is "Into the Garden" by Artery.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

It's on sale for $1500 on Discogs.com!! The digital version is slightly more affordable.

Blimey, it recently sold for £63 on ebay

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago) link


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