What are the classics of the 21st century thus far?

Scientists suggest that no-one has ever watched The Shield.

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 January 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bach was ignored for 200 years after he died etc

but there must be an emerging consensus we've been living through a golden age of animation for several years now?

between pixar and miyazaki you'd think so

@dril

since there isn't going to be a 22nd century, the question is moot

im sure theres a thread for amateur scifi somewhere

Breaking Bad won't make it. There hasn't been any surprises since season 3, and it won't hold up on a revisit, once you know how they make it out of their latest problem. Mad Men and Rubicon will be seen as the great AMC-series.

ya mad men is full of surprises

I wonder if don draper is gonna cheat on his wife

Peep Show, Spaced, League of gentlemen and The Office are some of the finest comedies ever made

Tree of Life just missed out on a spot in Sight & Sound's 100 Greatest Movies Ever Made poll

This is maybe an interesting place to start. Here are the 21st-century films in the S&S critics' top 250:

In the Mood for Love
Mulholland Drive
The Tree of Life
Tropical Malady
Hidden (Cache)
The Werckmeister Harmonies
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
There Will Be Blood
WALL-E
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives
West of the Tracks
Russian Ark
Spirited Away
Melancholia

s&s 100 is a good place to start pooping on

some of those movies are p cool tho

is the wire better than the corrections? yes, yes it is.

I dunno, I couldn't get through The Wire but did get through The Corrections, though I probably spent as much time watching the Wire as I did reading The Corrections (maybe 7 hours?)

OH NO WAIT, I'm thinking of Freedom, not The Corrections. The Corrections was better than the Wire. I was going to say "But the Corrections didn't come out in the 21st century" but I looked it up, and no, it did. It seems like ages ago.

louis c.k. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current novelists i've heard of and never read

have you read sam lipsyte? he really goes deep in a way that louis ck tends to shy back from, and, unlike ck, he's funny

i have no opinion of deadwood vs george saunders, though, both have flaws but also virtuosic high points

Oh, the thick of it, obv

lol the corrections is no classic and shouldnt be mentioned i the same breath as the wire, lipsyte and Saunders are cool but from what I've read neither of them have produced anything nearly classical, saunders worldview is p limited, lipsyte seems p trapped in the same bougie fear cycle as franzen et al tho obvs hes a much better writer

Some posts itt putting the chall in challops.

lol stfu

Forbrydelsen!

It will in Denmark, at least...

I wonder if don draper is gonna cheat on his wife

― iatee, 25. januar 2013 17:09 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He hasn't done that for a looong time. But walther white still uses chemistry to get out of a tight spot every third episode.

I was agreeing with you in part, lagoon. Corrections will sink like a stone in the ocean of time.

hah sry

I'd second There Will Be Blood, which will look more definitive the further we get from fossil fuels.

mullholand dr is prob the most no brainier of anything itt

In the Mood for Love - need to see
Mulholland Drive - yes!
The Tree of Life - nah
Tropical Malady - need to see
Hidden (Cache) - pfft
The Werckmeister Harmonies - need to see
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu - need to see
There Will Be Blood - hell yeah!
WALL-E - Ratatouille, The Incredibles and Up are better, but ok
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - need to see
West of the Tracks - what's this?
Russian Ark - need to see
Spirited Away - i guess...
Melancholia - fuck no.

But walther white still uses chemistry to get out of a tight spot every third episode.

and when he ran over those drugs dealers and then proceeded to shoot one of them cold. Yeah I guess there is chemistry in those bullets.

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the trouble with judging the state of literature is that the stuff that gets hyped (Franzen) is already looking as stale as 20th century event novels like "Bonfire of the Vanities" and the better stuff probably didn't get reviewed in the NYT. With TV it's pretty easy to locate the good stuff.

franzen is just awful

plot against america came out in 2004 - roth's last that i'd consider a classic

A grand dont come for free

most of the "name" american novelists putting stuff out now are pretty bad.

i hated wall-e. i'm all about finding nemo though.

the whole fast food nation thing in wall-e ugh...

the first half tho

I wish the first half of Wall-E was the whole movie.

Not even the first half -- it's only like the first 20-30 minutes that are the best.

I haven't read any books that have come out in the past 12 years that have really made an impact on me

most of the "name" american novelists putting stuff out now are pretty bad.

I haven't read any books that have come out in the past 12 years that have really made an impact on me

I don't know if people who were the equivalent of ILXors in 1922 felt something momentous about The Great Gatsby or if they were all "fuck this overhyped Fitzgerald asshat." And/or, what was the equivalent of Franzen then that has been largely forgotten?

sub-question goes to the cultier works that only get accepted with time - stuff like Red Harvest or Raymond Chandler or The Killer Inside Me.

TV-wise, I feel like a lot of stuff we talk about and love (Mad Men, Breaking Bad, etc.) are going to be viewed like we view The Rockford Files - really good, memorable, but not special in a way that will make our grandchildren care. The Sopranos and The Wire seem like a head above the other good cable series on this - I love Rome and Deadwood, but maybe they're both just awesome, awesome tv shows for their time?

are the top non-fiction writers (right now) more important than fiction? Jon Krakauer/David Grann/etc..

Alan Hollinghurst's The Line of Beauty and Marilynne Robinson's Gilead are important to me, so I doubt I'll recoil in embarrassment should I think about rereading them.

BIRDEMIC SHOCK AND TERROR

and when he ran over those drugs dealers and then proceeded to shoot one of them cold. Yeah I guess there is chemistry in those bullets.

― xyzzzz__, 25. januar 2013 18:12 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That was in season three. And that it's the last surprising moment is pretty much my point.

THIS book is one recent book that i would put in a time capsule and one of the few recent books i can think of that made me really jealous and wish i cud rite that gud.

http://electricliterature.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/pulphead_John_Jeremiah_Sullivan_cover.jpg

i was even nicely blurbed on the back of a book in 2012 by greil marcus and i was jealous of pulphead's better greil marcus blurb. that's how jealous i am of this book.

Bolano and Sebald to thread.

once upon a time in anatolia.

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Keep meaning to read Pulphead.

"classics"

as much as i see all the gladwell books lauded, ppl might think those are classics in ~80 yrs

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am0n i enjoy yr posting but what do you actually unironically *like*

wolf hall trilogy is obvs a major masterpiece

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