CYE is the new jane austen.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
Margaret
― ryan, Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:52 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 25 January 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
Deadwood
― standard disclaimer applies (darraghmac), Friday, January 25, 2013 9:47 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Scientists suggest that no-one has ever watched The Shield.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 January 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bach was ignored for 200 years after he died etc
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
but there must be an emerging consensus we've been living through a golden age of animation for several years now?
between pixar and miyazaki you'd think so
― Mordy, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
@dril
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
since there isn't going to be a 22nd century, the question is moot
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
im sure theres a thread for amateur scifi somewhere
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Breaking Bad won't make it. There hasn't been any surprises since season 3, and it won't hold up on a revisit, once you know how they make it out of their latest problem. Mad Men and Rubicon will be seen as the great AMC-series.
― Frederik B, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
ya mad men is full of surprises
― iatee, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder if don draper is gonna cheat on his wife
Peep Show, Spaced, League of gentlemen and The Office are some of the finest comedies ever made
― paolo, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Tree of Life just missed out on a spot in Sight & Sound's 100 Greatest Movies Ever Made poll
This is maybe an interesting place to start. Here are the 21st-century films in the S&S critics' top 250:
In the Mood for LoveMulholland DriveThe Tree of LifeTropical MaladyHidden (Cache)The Werckmeister HarmoniesThe Death of Mr. LazarescuThere Will Be BloodWALL-EUncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past LivesWest of the TracksRussian ArkSpirited AwayMelancholia
― jaymc, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
s&s 100 is a good place to start pooping on
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
some of those movies are p cool tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
is the wire better than the corrections? yes, yes it is.
I dunno, I couldn't get through The Wire but did get through The Corrections, though I probably spent as much time watching the Wire as I did reading The Corrections (maybe 7 hours?)
OH NO WAIT, I'm thinking of Freedom, not The Corrections. The Corrections was better than the Wire. I was going to say "But the Corrections didn't come out in the 21st century" but I looked it up, and no, it did. It seems like ages ago.
louis c.k. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current novelists i've heard of and never read
have you read sam lipsyte? he really goes deep in a way that louis ck tends to shy back from, and, unlike ck, he's funny
i have no opinion of deadwood vs george saunders, though, both have flaws but also virtuosic high points
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, the thick of it, obv
― standard disclaimer applies (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
lol the corrections is no classic and shouldnt be mentioned i the same breath as the wire, lipsyte and Saunders are cool but from what I've read neither of them have produced anything nearly classical, saunders worldview is p limited, lipsyte seems p trapped in the same bougie fear cycle as franzen et al tho obvs hes a much better writer
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
Some posts itt putting the chall in challops.
― (hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
lol stfu
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
Forbrydelsen!
It will in Denmark, at least...
― iatee, 25. januar 2013 17:09 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He hasn't done that for a looong time. But walther white still uses chemistry to get out of a tight spot every third episode.
― Frederik B, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
I was agreeing with you in part, lagoon. Corrections will sink like a stone in the ocean of time.
― (hcnuL dlO) * (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
hah sry
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'd second There Will Be Blood, which will look more definitive the further we get from fossil fuels.
― SongOfSam, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
mullholand dr is prob the most no brainier of anything itt
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
In the Mood for Love - need to seeMulholland Drive - yes!The Tree of Life - nahTropical Malady - need to seeHidden (Cache) - pfftThe Werckmeister Harmonies - need to seeThe Death of Mr. Lazarescu - need to seeThere Will Be Blood - hell yeah!WALL-E - Ratatouille, The Incredibles and Up are better, but okUncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - need to seeWest of the Tracks - what's this?Russian Ark - need to seeSpirited Away - i guess...Melancholia - fuck no.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
But walther white still uses chemistry to get out of a tight spot every third episode.
and when he ran over those drugs dealers and then proceeded to shoot one of them cold. Yeah I guess there is chemistry in those bullets.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
phantom menace 70-minute reviewmarvel vs. capcom 3
― abanana, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
the trouble with judging the state of literature is that the stuff that gets hyped (Franzen) is already looking as stale as 20th century event novels like "Bonfire of the Vanities" and the better stuff probably didn't get reviewed in the NYT. With TV it's pretty easy to locate the good stuff.
― President Keyes, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
franzen is just awful
― Mordy, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
plot against america came out in 2004 - roth's last that i'd consider a classic
― Mordy, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
A grand dont come for free
― standard disclaimer applies (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
most of the "name" american novelists putting stuff out now are pretty bad.
i hated wall-e. i'm all about finding nemo though.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
the whole fast food nation thing in wall-e ugh...
― scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
the first half tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 January 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
I wish the first half of Wall-E was the whole movie.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 January 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
Not even the first half -- it's only like the first 20-30 minutes that are the best.
― jaymc, Friday, 25 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't read any books that have come out in the past 12 years that have really made an impact on me
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 January 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know if people who were the equivalent of ILXors in 1922 felt something momentous about The Great Gatsby or if they were all "fuck this overhyped Fitzgerald asshat." And/or, what was the equivalent of Franzen then that has been largely forgotten?
sub-question goes to the cultier works that only get accepted with time - stuff like Red Harvest or Raymond Chandler or The Killer Inside Me.
TV-wise, I feel like a lot of stuff we talk about and love (Mad Men, Breaking Bad, etc.) are going to be viewed like we view The Rockford Files - really good, memorable, but not special in a way that will make our grandchildren care. The Sopranos and The Wire seem like a head above the other good cable series on this - I love Rome and Deadwood, but maybe they're both just awesome, awesome tv shows for their time?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 25 January 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
are the top non-fiction writers (right now) more important than fiction? Jon Krakauer/David Grann/etc..
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 25 January 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Alan Hollinghurst's The Line of Beauty and Marilynne Robinson's Gilead are important to me, so I doubt I'll recoil in embarrassment should I think about rereading them.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
BIRDEMIC SHOCK AND TERROR
― boxedjoy, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, 25. januar 2013 18:12 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That was in season three. And that it's the last surprising moment is pretty much my point.
― Frederik B, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
THIS book is one recent book that i would put in a time capsule and one of the few recent books i can think of that made me really jealous and wish i cud rite that gud.
http://electricliterature.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/pulphead_John_Jeremiah_Sullivan_cover.jpg
i was even nicely blurbed on the back of a book in 2012 by greil marcus and i was jealous of pulphead's better greil marcus blurb. that's how jealous i am of this book.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
Bolano and Sebald to thread.
once upon a time in anatolia.
― nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Pac-Man Championship Edition DX
― GM, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
Keep meaning to read Pulphead.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
"classics"
― am0n, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
as much as i see all the gladwell books lauded, ppl might think those are classics in ~80 yrs
― johnny crunch, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
guys:
ilx
― Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
did they really do that? i disapprove! stricken from the halls of classics now!
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i wasn't happy about it either
― slam dunk, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
this is a good other thread to mention deus ex in
― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
wolf hall trilogy is obvs a major masterpiece
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:47 (eleven years ago) link
Oasis 2006 compilation album 'stop the clocks'
― ...to work on his autobiography, "kiddyfiddling as rome burns" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:59 (eleven years ago) link