rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread

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https://soundcloud.com/factmag/route94-forget-the-girl

Mind Taker, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/gaztrigg/gaz-trigg-vinyl-only-set-good

a salient indicator of jackin's greatness is that if u should hire a scene dude for an oldskool set - who knows what you're gonna get?

some pwopa nawty musicological roots right here

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

I heard a similar old skool set a while back from a 'name' jackin guy but forgot to bookmark it. This is ace though, thanks. Was thinking the other day theres something quite Todd Terry-ish about Jackin. In my head its kinda like UKG with Terry replacing Edwards as the 'God' figure, sort of...

Benny B, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i can feel that. hard to get finer point on it than sort of, it's tantalising - tim invoked nu groove upthread so i listened to everything they put out but still couldnt quite get close enough to the essential truth of it. avh, kenny dope also mentioned iirc

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/chris-lawrence/lorenzos-garage-mix

on paper i guess this tracklist wouldnt raise an eyebrow but idk you can really feel the jackin in it somehow?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

it is also v good btw

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

wow @ this Gaz mix - good looking out rtc

Mind Taker, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol in truth i thought of u immediately

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

:)

on that note i'm still kinda into this, even though i'm well aware it's just a poor man's "Mainline"

https://soundcloud.com/ryanblyth/uh-oh

and Rita Ora talk on the top 77 thread reminded of this lil gem

https://soundcloud.com/nick_of_bfd/burkie-propaganda-beatz-how-we

Mind Taker, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

do like ryan blyth, he just really does not give a shit

that new one 'ruffman' (swiping 'ruff stuff') sounds ace in that ill phil mix linked above

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

knocked up a Basscone - Dub be good to me boot after reading this thread

free dl

https://soundcloud.com/bare-bones/bare-bones-basscone-be-good-to

BARE BONES, Sunday, 27 January 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

We need a 2013 thread with an appropriately intimidating-in-its-inscrutable-vagueness name. I am attached to "bubbler" as organising principle even if currently this is a jackin' thread in practice (but who knows where we'll be in six months time) however I'm open to being persuaded otherwise.

Tim F, Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

maybe some "bubblers" + Reynolds Girls pun combo?

Mind Taker, Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

The Simon Reynolds Girls

r|t|c, Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

ooh the new dj q show starts tomoz as well

r|t|c, Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.hotdrops.com/hotdrops/hot-drops-x-dj-q-playlist

/!\ jamiroquai alert /!\ (non-obvi at that)

wonder if he's heard the legitimate scandal fu gee la

r|t|c, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

q guest mix on cameo tomorrow

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 January 2013 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

i had been considering "the ineffable lightness of bubbling" but I think that may actually be too annoying, if such a think is possible.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

Slogans
The slogan for Aero in Australia during the 1980s was "It's the bubbles of nothing that make it really something." From the 1999 redesign and "singers" advertising campaign Aero's tagline was "Have you felt the bubbles melt?" This slogan was invented by Nick Welch, an advertiser and the father of Florence Welch of the indie band Florence and the Machine. The latest slogan as of 2011 is now "Irresistabubble". In 2012 the Aero bar slogan will be changed to "Get your bubble on".[citation needed]

r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nesforever.com/games/images/bubblebobble.gif

Mind Taker, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

usually drink, usually dance, usually bubble

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

Aero's tagline was "Have you felt the bubbles melt?" This slogan was invented by Nick Welch, an advertiser and the father of Florence Welch of the indie band Florence and the Machine.

This does not surprise me.

usually drink, usually dance, usually bubble

this is acceptable to me!

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

Further to the old-skool Jackin chat earlier, have any of you lot checked out Ill Phil's old pre-jackin stuff with Will Bailey under the names Bass Weazal and Punk Rolla? Been flicking through, some of these tracks/mixtapes are as rude as anything!

Bass Weazal
https://soundcloud.com/bass-weazal

Punk Rolla
https://soundcloud.com/punk-rolla

Benny B, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

also on further refection, I would like to add KNITEFORCE to the list of possible spiritual forefathers of jackin (the others mentioned were Suburban base, Nu Groove, Todd Terry and Kenny Dope i think). Coming at it from these angles rather than the straight uk garage lineage is more interesting to me atm, i've already listened to so much garage.

Benny B, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

had to google Kniteforce, so much for my schooling in ardkore lol

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QbLKjAqIUi9aoxjQQOG7H04kL73Cx5s83ClykA7V8ko/edit?pli=1

"With the ‘jackin house’ name being scorned somewhat recently with producers bringing out some total rubbish..."

sorta wonder who's he thinking of exactly? moreso since i hadn't pegged down mr certifiedjackin as a, err, super discriminate type

Mind Taker, Thursday, 31 January 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

btw for whatever reason i checked the other day what Para of DEA Project fame is up to and... turns out he's giving away some top tunes for free! iirc some of you already know and love "Tell Me" as you should but i also heartily recommend "Fall in Love":

https://soundcloud.com/parabeats

Mind Taker, Thursday, 31 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

"With the ‘jackin house’ name being scorned somewhat recently with producers bringing out some total rubbish..."

sorta wonder who's he thinking of exactly? moreso since i hadn't pegged down mr certifiedjackin as a, err, super discriminate type

I think lots of people in these roles feel the need to say that there is (unidentified and undefined) rubbish out there precisely so as to evoke the impression of discrimination.

Sadly once that phenomenon becomes widespread (i.e. lots of people drawing lines between the good stuff and the bad stuff) it's usually the beginning of the end :-/

Though funky had about a two year run of goodness from the first complaints of this type (early 2009?) to its ultimate demise.

Tim F, Thursday, 31 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

In ongoing crowdsourcing reax on replacement threadnames developments, I am perversely attracted to:

"It's the bubbles of nothing that make it really something"

and

"Have you felt the bubbles melt?"

Tim F, Thursday, 31 January 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

haha yes the first one did tickle me rather

r|t|c, Thursday, 31 January 2013 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like something i'd argue at any rate

r|t|c, Thursday, 31 January 2013 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol I had also thought "this is like an r|t|c compliment"

Tim F, Thursday, 31 January 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

perhaps as per mr certifiedjackin we should continue cultivating the "ineffable" brand recognition

from thence an ineffabubbler might even spring forth hmmmmm?

r|t|c, Thursday, 31 January 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

[cut to june when "garage 2013 ffs" finally appears on sna]

r|t|c, Thursday, 31 January 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

Mind Taker: bigup! Some of those are big. Love Me is one of my all time favorite garage/anything tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxCybFwQhPQ

Benny B - re alternative jackin linages, Lorenzo mentioned Musical Mobb when I asked what inspired the jackin bass!

You can definitely here some of that in this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Hfd8oUQIk
As well as the totally hardcore/euphoric vocal line.

What I'm interested in is, what's the house these guys were listening to pre-jackin? Apart from like, Body Language by M.A.N.D.Y & Booka Shade I really can't find any electro which seems to reach forwards to jackin.

This early Ryan James swagger mix is apparently quite a big deal/major Ur-Jackin text:


https://soundcloud.com/ryanjamesmusic/swagger-volume-2
It's mostly pretty swag lol. Love the tag: 'Electro Organ House' though. There's your whachucallit moment right there.

The track that kicks in at 35 minutes in is Love For Me by Lorenzo (& Jayye Jackin and Dappa D I think..)


https://soundcloud.com/chris-lawrence/groove-box-love-for-me
It was one of the very first couple of house tracks he ever made. It's quite good fun, but what really sticks out is how underdeveloped it sounds compared to his stuff now. Obviously that's in large part to him becoming a more mature producer, really honing his skills over the last couple of years.

But I also think it's the sound itself maturing, coming into its own. Listening to that track, or like, Doin Time by James Oliver -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKbcuEbXjo - a total banger from 2010, really provides the best evidence I can think of that along with being absolutely don't-give-a-fuck-BANGING party music and a vital and thriving scene, jackin does have a FWD imperative, The sound's innovating, getting better and weirder all the time really.

Datwun, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

yikes, that's some horrible formatting going on there, sorry, does anyone know how you can edit posts? :s

Datwun, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

that privilege is reserved only for matt dc iirc

r|t|c, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

It's only mildly less horrible now but it should do...

Matt DC, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

Apart from like, Body Language by M.A.N.D.Y & Booka Shade I really can't find any electro which seems to reach forwards to jackin.

well there's... several years worth of post-'Your Hands Up for Detroit'/pre-Swedish House Mafia mersh electro-house for starters?

Mind Taker, Friday, 1 February 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

That's what I'm saying, I don't hear the likeness.

Some of my first times clubbing around 07~08 were to big bate electro house (lol) and I remember it all being midrange, sawtooth shit (good craig though)
I mean, obviously there is jackin which is just midrange sawtooth shit, but I'm talking about the bassy elements of it, the warp-donk-owl bass etc.
Or do the sub frequencies all come just through bassline?

I suppose what I mean is, I'd love to know what were some of the house bangers that were doing the deed up in the North/Midlands around 2009, as bassline was dying and jackin was being born.

Datwun, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

ok i guess i was thinking in broader termes incl. uh 'electroline' or whatever that sort of thing's called nowadays - since jackin came out of it i'd wager they were probably raving to Fedde Le Grand, Axwell etc (stuff that also had much more swing and funkiness to it than both the Get Physical-type electro-house that preceded it and the trance-with-hamfisted-electro-interludes EDM mersh that followed)

Mind Taker, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I can hear that. I've heard people posit the more fidget end of things as an influence, what are some of the '09 fidget bangers one should know about?

Datwun, Friday, 1 February 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, Crookers, Switch, Jesse Rose, Count and Sinden too I suppose. That stuff has never really been acceptable to me but its definitely a direct influence on folk like Ill Phil at least (check those mixtapes on the Bass Weazal SC posted above). Jackin does a much better job of the electro house + kitchen sink thing.

Benny B, Friday, 1 February 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

That stuff has never really been acceptable to me

lol at this wording

Tim F, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

today i have not a jackin thought in my head to offer as i've been belatedly jamming the hell out of this mix i missed from my fave post-jamiroquai bacardi bubbling mans dem l phonix & yllavation

http://www.kissfmuk.com/kisspresents/2013/01/10/l-phonix-yllavation-10113/

http://rapidgator.net/file/70598896/L_Phonix_and_Yllavation_-_Kiss_Presents-SAT-01-13-2013-TALiON.rar.html

front to back all their own production, THESE DUDES RULE fuiud

r|t|c, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/l_phonix/kiss-fm-l-phonix-yllavation

oh wait sc link

r|t|c, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

oh i remember you repping a 1xtra mix of theres a while back, i listened once and it sort of washed over me tbh. Could have just been the post-funky hangover though, I'll check em out again.

Benny B, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

might just be too smoove for you benny old son :)

r|t|c, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

think of them as funkystepz' well-to-do cousins imo

r|t|c, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

i can't have been listening properly first time round cos this is bloody excellent.

Benny B, Friday, 1 February 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

Rock Your Body (ft. Evader) - Yllavation (Rhodesfull Remix)

^ this is sweet

Benny B, Friday, 1 February 2013 23:32 (eleven years ago) link


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