Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

You 'music fans' here can keep your alternative rock rubbish like Nirvana , Pearl jam , Sonic Youth and Pixies and leave the genius of real music like Dave Matthews to the millions of real music fans worldwide.

That's the idea, I think.

falling asleep, apparently.

''Do any of you actually go to college?''

making assumptions now are we?

I went to a college here in Virginia, so of course, DMB was extremely popular there. This omnipresence is one of the main reasons why people hate him so much.

wow...
this is so fraught with idiocy, i just can't bear to tear it apart...

"genius", "real music", "music fans"
need i go on?

DMB fans are "real" music fans, how, exactly?; (ie. how does this differ from a "fake" music fan? How does one know that they are a "fake" music fan? Does a "fake" music fan even exist? Wouldn't a music fan be a music fan regardless of what other people think?) And where does the DMB get off declaring the "reality status" of other people? Who died and declared them to be (God|arbiters of taste|definers of reality)?

Yeah, there are a couple of women in my company that like DMB because they think he is hot -- wtf??? Is he like the Sting of the new millenia?

my day, ruined.

Shh, Nicole, you're giving it away!

Lynn, Danielle, etc. -- yeah, there are plenty of cheap shots on this thread and I've delivered a few. But what it all boils down to for a lot of us is this -- we just don't find his music interesting in the slightest, and in some cases we just outright hate it. This has nothing to do with jealousy over his success or how much he sells or anything like that, and I have to say I think it's a bit sad that you're always constantly resorting to that argument, or so it seems. You should be arguing from the strength of whether or not you like the music first and foremost. My own passion for the groups I love -- My Bloody Valentine, the Walkabouts and so forth -- is just as strong as yours is for DMB, I've no doubt of it. But trying to argue that we should like DMB because of their sales or the size of their fanbase is like arguing we should all like McDonald's because they're the biggest in the business. Do you apply that line of thinking to the rest of your life? I'm guessing not.

The other thing that's strange -- and a bit amusing -- is that you're coming in here to defend DMB (not a problem there), shocked by the idea that people might disagree with you (that IS a problem), demanding in some cases that we all leave you alone with our opinions (have we been invading DMB fan boards or something? you all came here, and you didn't have to post or read anything!) and basically doing nothing to convince us of anything else other than the fact that you really really like DMB. Which is great. I don't, neither do a lot of other people here, and we don't have to change our minds because you say so. I'm not expecting to change YOUR mind with my thoughts! That would be pointless.

And if you say, "But if you just listen to the music!" Well, I have, I still remember when I got a copy of Under the Table to review almost ten years ago at the paper I was doing music reviewing for at the time. Didn't like it then, everything I've heard from him since has been to my ears anonymous, boring and dull. I'm sure everyone else here who has expressed similar opinions has had similar experiences. Choosing to write off our own encounters with his music as being nothing but close-minded jealousy or annoyance would be just the same as if we said -- in all seriousness, regardless of whatever frat-guy/lawyer jokes have been made -- that you only listen to DMB because they were successful, because they had a huge fanbase, as opposed to whether or not you actually enjoyed the music.

If you want to take the random jokes (and I'm not pretending everything here has been brilliant, certainly not from me) in all seriousness and get on your high horse about it every time, well, that's your worry and not ours. The fact that we haven't seen an ounce of humor from your end of things unfortunately just makes you all seem like you're so insistent or incredulous about others not being fans that you're almost, well, comical -- and that's why my crack about being 'insecure,' in that those who speak the loudest often seem to be hiding something.

And there you go.

--I appreciate the post Ned, points well made.

No, because of abject ennui. The music of the Dave Matthews Band bores me to absolute tears. Sorry, but it does. If you bothered to expand your horizons a bit more, you'd hear how yawnsome and ordinary their music quite irrefutably is.

Yer welcome, Danielle. Personally I think humor about my favorite bands is one of the things that keeps them human and keeps my own thoughts from being too full of themselves, but that is me. ;-) Stick around the boards, opinionated people always welcome. As Alex in NYC notes far above, he came here in very similar circumstances.

With all due respect, Allison, it seems kind of disingenuous of you to accuse other people of being haters just because they don't like one band when earlier you wrote this: "First of all, this is REAL music. Besides underground stuff, what bands actually make music that is worth listening to?" So you basically hate all popular music except for DMB, and then you accuse people of being haters just because they don't like DMB?