Animated Creatures: ILX's top 100 animated films (results thread)

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Still kicking myself for not pushing harder to get Svankmajer's Faust accepted as a nomination, tbh. It's my favourite of his, and easily as animated as Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and by all rights should be making an appearance around now in a true and correct poll.

will howl's moving castle place? i like it as much as spirited away.

Are you serious, dog? Even without knowing the results, it's pretty clearly lesser Miyazaki.

Really? It's much much better than Kiki, which placed. And I'd say it's way better than Totoro in pacing and story, though Totoro has the edge in CATBUS level characters.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Rewatching "What's Opera, Doc?" right now for the first time in, I dunno, a decade. Discovering all the dialogue is tattooed on my soul.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not a huge fan of Chuck Jones (heresy, I know), but both of those are classics, and I'm kind of pleased that old-school comic animation has placed so high. I am disappointed that not much of the early/experimental/arty stuff has placed throughout the poll, though.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

I think Totoro's unconventional pacing (and the effect this has on the story) is one of the things that its fans really love about it!

I would like to have a view on Howl more nuanced than "Go cry, emo kid", but to be honest that pretty much covers it.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

so Wall-E is going to be No. 1 then. Hmmmm

Number None, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

I think Totoro's unconventional pacing (and the effect this has on the story) is one of the things that its fans really love about it!

Haha, really? I guess I'm not that steeped in the critical discourse around this stuff. It is probably because I am horrendously mean and evil, but I find "kids with ailing parent find refuge in a magical world" to be a terribly clichéd and trite storyline, so the pacing of Totoro doesn't really do it any favours for me. Still... CATBUS.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

A hi-quality Duck Amuck on Vimeo.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Kiki is a million times better than Howl!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

cool, so mind game in the top 2, psyched!

乒乓, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I get that Howl has its fans, but I really remember the latter as being kind of a mess, with inscrutable characterization, an incoherent conclusion, and too much striving for the "overflowing of magical wonders" that Spirited Away made look easy. I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it okay while I was watching it but I immediately had no desire to see it again. Whereas Kiki's just grows deeper with each viewing; it's a story comfortable in its smallness and unapologetic about how much the small things can matter to children (or to people generally). Yeah, it finally swings for a big action climax that comes out of nowhere, but the outcome of that sequence depends on stuff that's actually central to the movie and the main character's arc. I can think of very few kids' movies which are as finely executed.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not sure about critical discourse, it's just a slow gentle film where nothing happens and (spoilers) it turns out that even less is happening that it appeared. Some people put up with that for the characters, some people luxuriate in it.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Basically, I liked Howl a lot and thought it worthy of a place. I don't really want to sound like I dislike the others, because I do like them. Even Kiki is a nice little piece, though it's not close to being one of my favourites.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

(And on checking, Totoro made my ballot where Howl did not, so, hey, whatever.)

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

'howl' is the only miyazaki that hasn't done anything for me. there are non-miyazaki ghiblis -- like 'arrietty' -- that i like more.

'totoro' is definitely the best IMO -- there's probably never been a better portrayal of children in any movie, animated or otherwise.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

I sorta can't stand much of Totoro. I think all of his post Mononoke movies are stronger.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda quit taking that dork john k seriously when i found out how scornful he and his followers are of chuck jones.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

In that interview posted upthread it sounded like John K's a huge admirer of Chuck Jones.

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

a true and correct poll.

Haha you did realize this when Transformers placed, yes?

(I.E. in a just world, GI Joe would have as well, oops, spoilers.)

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 02:12 (eleven years ago) link

aaaah I love GI Joe the movie

乒乓, Friday, 18 January 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

Loool, Leee.

emil.y, Friday, 18 January 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

heh, i just did a google search and found about a zillion blog posts where john k gushes about his favorite chuck jones cartoons. so i guess i stand corrected.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 18 January 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

surprised Beauty and the Beast isn't going to place

Chris S, Friday, 18 January 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

#2 received the highest number of votes.

(This is your chance to post joke results!)

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha imagine if it was Wall-E at #2, that'd be a pretty wild ride, huh?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

If I were the type to post joke results I would've put "9" because that movie is awful.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

Well imagine no more.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

#2: Wall-E
dir. Andrew Stanton
2008, USA
556 points, 15 votes
http://i.imgur.com/UmcOu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xDo2W.gif
http://i.imgur.com/fPQcG.gif
trailer

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

A probable contender for #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2zJGl5czk8

Magic Miike (R Baez), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus. Did it get many #1s?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'll refer that question to silby.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

I like Wall-E, so yay Wall-E.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Fern Gully #1

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

#1 Howl's Moving Castle

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha.

emil.y, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

#1: Spirited Away
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
2001, Japan
593 points, 14 votes
http://i.imgur.com/sUwFC.jpg
CHIHIIIIIIRRRROOOOOO (trailer)

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

I like Wall-E too, but 100 points over Duck Amuck is cray-cray.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I will recover the #1 vote data this weekend or in like August or something

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Spirited Away otm though, imo

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I did not vote in this but I will submit a posthumous ballot to the ballot thread (which is where all the real shit goes down anyway ;D)

imago, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks to silby for kicking this thing off! And everyone in this thread!

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Far and away my favorite Miyazaki. Stellar art, hilarious characters, perfect fairy-tale logic, wonderful active hero, best Miyazaki soundtrack.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

and thanks to Leee for bringing it home! If I ever run another poll I will appoint a rollout czar in advance because this is obviously the part I'm no good at.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

if anyone (silby? Leee?) has a copy of my ballot... i'd love to post it. i lost my copy tho.

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

I can recover your ballot yes.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

but not right now.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

A worthy winner!

emil.y, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty great top 4, really.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Bravos to silby and Leee!

I loved Spirited Away the first time and was oddly bored/distracted the second. Maybe should have given it more time in between. I bet I'd be very happy watching it now.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

xpost I mean, given that we probably weren't going to see any high placements for, say, Tango

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

Worth it in the end, well done folks. Must get around to watching 'Howl's Moving Castle' I suppose.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link


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