No, they are absolutely ear-damaging.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
to me there's just something about the way her accent manifests in that song that is really bothersome to me - also the chorus "i really want tooooooo/ come kick it with yooooouuu" is like the dictionary definition of 'annoying' to me
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not an anglophile in the slightest (and really have trouble relating to a lot of brit music), but something about the breeziness of 'american boy' is enjoyable to me.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, that goes back to what I said about being catchy, but not pleasing. Catchy + ugly is more or less the worst combination of adjectives in music. Otm about her accent, too.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
(was an xp)
I also hate how cute this song tries to be about the fact that Estelle is British. It's like I understand that there are cultural differences between the US and UK, you don't need to fucking Big Bird this shit for me.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i wish it struck a kind of idk jetsetter tone - with estelle in the position of power - but instead it just makes her seem really doltish and ditzy
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
on listening closely for the first time in a while, what i really like about it is actually the progression--it's a little jazzy/loungy and seems a little atypical for an r&b hit. it's not totally successful because, as michael mcdonald would point out, they did not go 100% smooth.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
jetsetter OTM--that's what i want this song to be.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that is annoying generally (see also Sway's love of the Union Flag) but i blame the US involvement in these things just as much for that too. it's Kanye who wanted to drop in more UK refs and make a deal out of that too. xposts
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
okay so basically the problem here is that you are insane (not because she represents the epitome of amazing singing or anything but because she's basically the vocal equivalent of a fangless Ashanti and somehow your brain has managed to translate "barely audible" into "shrill, piercing")
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
19 - Grace Jones - Williams' Blood142 points, 12 votes, 1 #1 vote(7 votes, 81.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)1722/429 in P&J
Aeroplane Remix
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
both brilliant
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah ftr even tho rev is obv challopsing, i think he's going overplaying how bad her vocals are - they are just mildly annoying but annoying enough - very mosquito trapped in your car
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
What about the greg wilson one? (I haven't heard it but am v curious)
― Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm actually reeling that anyone could dislike this song just a little bit.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
xps: Oh, don't worry, I hold Kanye just as responsible.
more xps: R&b singers (or non-jazz singers in general) using "jazz" mannerisms tend to annoy the fuck out of me because very close to NONE of them do it well. They almost always seem to think that singing jazz-style means singing in an awful, pinched, nasal tone. Thanks for hitting upon another thing that annoys me about this song.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
jordan and rev remind me, how do you find adele's and duffy's voices?
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Estelle's vocals are just right at the point where they set me completely on edge and make my fillings rattle in my teeth. Shit is like a dog whistle to me.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:19 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I find them to be like murder me now and get it over with.
cosign
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i like "chasing pavements" a lot (havent heard duffy), but i really don't mind estelle in general - in fact i think "no substitute love" and the new one w/ sean paul are both really great - it's just something about the melody of the song that brings out something unpleasant in her voice - also the melody itself is annoying
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Rev your hate for "American Girl" is baffling. Like.. are we listening to a different song?
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
18 - M83 - Kim & Jessie142.5 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote30 in P&J, 5 in p4k
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
xxp: Right. I do like most of Estelle's other stuff, but not to a great degree. It's just this song in particular that hurls me over the edge.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:22 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
sorry duke, It's been battling it out with "I Kissed a Girl" all year for least favorite song
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
haha so is there a female singer you can listen to or are they all like shoving icepicks in your ears
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Adele's voice is really good, she just needs better material. About half of her album is great... Duffy is one of the worst 'singers'... now THAT is a "shrill" voice Rev. Estelle is such a non-entity in terms of singing, she has a pleasant voice, it works for her...
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Intentional misconstruance zzzzzz.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
think Skin Of The Night is now my favourite vocal track on Saturdays=Youth.
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
whoops, yesterday i said I would post a list of the placers so far:
50 - Flo Rida - Low (69.5 points, 7 votes)49 - Air France - No Excuses (70 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote)48 - Kleerup Feat. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed (73.5 points, 7 votes; 3 votes, 29.5 points for Mikael's Cello Version)47 - Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns (In The Celestial City) (74 points, 7 votes)46 - The Bug - Poison Dart feat. Warrior Queen (75.5 points, 7 votes)45 - Katy Perry - Hot N Cold (76 points, 7 votes)44 - Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam (77 points, 6 votes)43 - MGMT - Kids (82 points, 9 votes)42 - TV On The Radio - Family Tree (83 points, 6 votes)41 - T.I. - No Matter What (83.5 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote, )40 - Cassie - Official Girl (83.5 points, 6 votes, 2 #1 votes)39 - Matias Aguayo - Minimal (84 points, 7 votes, 4 votes; 51.5 points for DJ Koze Maxi Version)38 - Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day (86 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote)37 - Lil Wayne - Got Money (Ft. T-Pain) (90.5 points, 7 votes)36 - Ting Tings, The - That's Not My Name (91.5 points, 8 votes)35 - Rihanna - Disturbia (92 points, 9 votes)34 - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major - Lollipop (94 points, 8 votes)33 - Lindstrøm - The Long Way Home (97 points, 10 votes; 3 votes, 23 points for Prins Thomas Edit)32 - Goldfrapp - A & E (98 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)31 - Ne-Yo - Closer (98.5 points, 10 votes)30 - Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened (101.5 points, 10 votes)29 - Gang Gang Dance - House Jam (102.5 points, 8 votes)28 - Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal (106 points, 8 votes)27 - Alphabeat - Fascination (111 points, 7 votes, 2 #1 votes)26 - Ida Maria - Oh My God (116 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)25 - Erykah Badu - The Healer (117 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)24 - Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) (120.5 points, 12 votes)23 - Vampire Weekend - A-Punk (121 points, 11 votes)22 - T.I. Feat. Rihanna - Live Your Life (123.5 points, 10 votes)21 - Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep (135 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)20 - Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air (139 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 vote)19 - Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (142 points, 12 votes, 1 #1 vote; 7 votes, 81.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)18 - M83 - Kim & Jessie (142.5 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Kim & Jessie <3 <3 <3
― Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
How the hell is that intentional misconstruence! I'm not the one going "OH MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD HER VOICE IS SO SHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL IT HURTS MY EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEARS! ;_;"
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:24 PM (3 minutes ago)
Its kind of sick that you would even compare these
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Because Estelle is only one person?
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Considering that she has possibly the LEAST SHRILL VOICE of any female singer who had a popular hit in 2008, this basically tells me you either a) can't handle hearing notes over a certain pitch; b) really suck at detecting/describing timbre; or c) are having such a visceral reaction to other elements in the song that you dislike that you've completely forgotten what Estelle actually sounds like.
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Yay M83! I neglected to nominate any tracks, myself, and when I went to vote found myself without very much on the list that I could get behind, thus my tracks ballot had only: four M83 songs, "Hot N Cold" and one forlorn Jesu "alternate version". But two of those in the top 50 so far, and if Kim & Jessie got 142.5 points, I'm betting at least Graveyard Girl is still to come. And Couleurs?!
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i think dan's right btw - her voice isn't shrill
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
c) are having such a visceral reaction to other elements in the song that you dislike that you've completely forgotten what Estelle actually sounds like.
^^^^^^
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
is it just 'weak'? it kinda breaks on high notes. personally i find it a bit endearing and at least she's got character.
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't believe "Got Money" made this list. I would never have guessed that song had pop crit appeal
― The eMo City Don (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i know rite
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's the way it breaks on the high notes, in addition to the nasal "jazz"-isms that really just fucks with my head.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't you say you liked the Estelle album though? Is it just her voice on that particular song that bothers you?
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Estelle's voice definitely sounds "weak" compared to most other pop singers because she isn't pressing or belting; it's basically the exact opposite of what Duffy does. (Also, as pointed out, there seem to be some range things going on there, too.)
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:23 AM Bookmark
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
again any destroyer fan who hasnt heard "no cease fires" should do so
― k3vin k., Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Dan, do you mean range things going on with Estelle or range things going on with Duffy?
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
(xpost to myself) RONG THREAD
― The eMo City Don (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally)
wat, t-pain and weezy are beloved by ILM, i would have been shocked if it hadn't placed
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link