No Jeezy yet, I hope we haven't split the Recession vote by nominating too many tracks.
― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck a song - that remix is infinitely preferable!
xp's
― (a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd imagine "Blind" is up towards the top too. And I hope all the Crazy Cousinz votes didn't go to "Bongo Jam" and we still get "Do Ya Mind".
― Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I assume American Boy will be top10 as well.
― . (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
If it wasn't I would really wonder at the point of this site.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
My guess for the top five would be some combination of A Milli, Blind, Wearing My Rolex, Time To Pretend and maybe Paper Planes, depending on how many people voted for it as a 2008 release. Otherwise replace it with American Boy or Love Lockdown.
― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
if it's gonna be that boringly predictable how about we just stop at 11?
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Machine Gun top ten or not?
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
because it's just a ruse and los campesinos! are actually going to fill all 10 spots.
― . (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Blackout Crew for #1.
― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Awesome thread, y'all - old school ILM material!
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I still don't understand how so many people whose taste I otherwise respect find "American Boy" tolerable.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
still surprised u hate on it this much
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
its really annoying
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, that
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i like the beat OK, but the vocals do nothing for me (and the will.i.am version isn't any better).
― n00bian princess (some dude), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
still surprised people find it annoying
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Estelle's vocals are really shrill, and the lyrics are really stupid when not completely cringeworthy. The melody is catchy, but not pleasing, and so just sits in your head being annoying forever after you hear it. Kanye is as cloying and smug as he's ever been. The way the beat is arranged discards any sense of flow it had in "Impatient". Basically, this song is garbage. I hate it more than Katy Perry.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I would love any r'n'b song that dropped Ribena though
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Are most of the (non-british) people who like "American Boy" anglophiles to some degree? I find anglophilia offputting in general (which certainly isn't to say I hate English music or English people or Englishness, just Americanos who get b0nerz about such things) and this song triggers that revulsion.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Estelle's vocals are too airy to be shrill.
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
No, they are absolutely ear-damaging.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
to me there's just something about the way her accent manifests in that song that is really bothersome to me - also the chorus "i really want tooooooo/ come kick it with yooooouuu" is like the dictionary definition of 'annoying' to me
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not an anglophile in the slightest (and really have trouble relating to a lot of brit music), but something about the breeziness of 'american boy' is enjoyable to me.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, that goes back to what I said about being catchy, but not pleasing. Catchy + ugly is more or less the worst combination of adjectives in music. Otm about her accent, too.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
(was an xp)
I also hate how cute this song tries to be about the fact that Estelle is British. It's like I understand that there are cultural differences between the US and UK, you don't need to fucking Big Bird this shit for me.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i wish it struck a kind of idk jetsetter tone - with estelle in the position of power - but instead it just makes her seem really doltish and ditzy
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
on listening closely for the first time in a while, what i really like about it is actually the progression--it's a little jazzy/loungy and seems a little atypical for an r&b hit. it's not totally successful because, as michael mcdonald would point out, they did not go 100% smooth.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
jetsetter OTM--that's what i want this song to be.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that is annoying generally (see also Sway's love of the Union Flag) but i blame the US involvement in these things just as much for that too. it's Kanye who wanted to drop in more UK refs and make a deal out of that too. xposts
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
okay so basically the problem here is that you are insane (not because she represents the epitome of amazing singing or anything but because she's basically the vocal equivalent of a fangless Ashanti and somehow your brain has managed to translate "barely audible" into "shrill, piercing")
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
19 - Grace Jones - Williams' Blood142 points, 12 votes, 1 #1 vote(7 votes, 81.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)1722/429 in P&J
Aeroplane Remix
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
both brilliant
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah ftr even tho rev is obv challopsing, i think he's going overplaying how bad her vocals are - they are just mildly annoying but annoying enough - very mosquito trapped in your car
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
What about the greg wilson one? (I haven't heard it but am v curious)
― Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm actually reeling that anyone could dislike this song just a little bit.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
xps: Oh, don't worry, I hold Kanye just as responsible.
more xps: R&b singers (or non-jazz singers in general) using "jazz" mannerisms tend to annoy the fuck out of me because very close to NONE of them do it well. They almost always seem to think that singing jazz-style means singing in an awful, pinched, nasal tone. Thanks for hitting upon another thing that annoys me about this song.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
jordan and rev remind me, how do you find adele's and duffy's voices?
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Estelle's vocals are just right at the point where they set me completely on edge and make my fillings rattle in my teeth. Shit is like a dog whistle to me.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:19 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I find them to be like murder me now and get it over with.
cosign
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i like "chasing pavements" a lot (havent heard duffy), but i really don't mind estelle in general - in fact i think "no substitute love" and the new one w/ sean paul are both really great - it's just something about the melody of the song that brings out something unpleasant in her voice - also the melody itself is annoying
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Rev your hate for "American Girl" is baffling. Like.. are we listening to a different song?
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
18 - M83 - Kim & Jessie142.5 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote30 in P&J, 5 in p4k
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
xxp: Right. I do like most of Estelle's other stuff, but not to a great degree. It's just this song in particular that hurls me over the edge.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:22 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
sorry duke, It's been battling it out with "I Kissed a Girl" all year for least favorite song
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
haha so is there a female singer you can listen to or are they all like shoving icepicks in your ears
― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Adele's voice is really good, she just needs better material. About half of her album is great... Duffy is one of the worst 'singers'... now THAT is a "shrill" voice Rev. Estelle is such a non-entity in terms of singing, she has a pleasant voice, it works for her...
― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Intentional misconstruance zzzzzz.
― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link