jacobin magazine

like this was just absolute garbage. really stunningly bad + stupid

http://jacobinmag.com/2012/09/the-yacht-rock-counterrevolution/

― max, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

argh yes! hated this.

in fact I remember getting into a thing in the comments thread with the author I think, but now I don't see the comments

reads more like eager college student to me than gradschoolese xp

― flopson, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol there was a guy at my school who would show up several times per week in the editorial section of our newspaper, got a job at jacobin very quickly after graduating

'job'

really enjoying my jacobin subscription

comes with a football phone

started this thread just in time

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/books/bhaskar-sunkara-editor-of-jacobin-magazine.html?_r=0

new issue looks really tight http://jacobinmag.com/2013/08/issue-1112-preview-misery-index/

ian svenonius on tipping lol

claire potter B-)

Silent Majority Music

To put it most unkindly, trap music is adult contemporary for the prosumer age.

By Gavin Mueller

it made me genuinely happy to read that

ahhhhhh good htat sounds like it will make up for that fucking yacht rock article

lol

haha oh god of course Sc-tt McL*m** is going to be involved in this magazine and their books section. (i know for a fact he's a self googler because at least once i made a snide comment about an article of his in a location he would never be browsing by chance and he showed up to call me names). his work for the chronicle of higher ed is invariable the _worst_ and he manages to show up anywhere with a bit of radical buzz to be a wet blanket astonishingly consistently.

yeesh, guys

I can't figure out what happened

well incredibly someone made this explanatory and admittedly jacobin-friendly-leaning series of images

http://i.imgur.com/ZQRrxnM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/C9XjqfY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2eDzzfY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JCkQmFP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4bcbxRW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3OArP2J.jpg

Jesus that did not help

I can't even stand to read all that, but good job making sure the Left continues to resemble high school guys.

wtf

i saw that some twitterstorm was happening but didn't bother trying to piece it together, seemingly one of the better decisions i've ever made.

simplified version:

i mean from my perspective jacobin made a big editorial mistake by linking to a tweet about such a sensitive topic without seeking permission first--they fixed that mistake in less than 30 minutes and were contrite. another jacobin staffer who had nothing to do with the article stepped up to bat to defend the decision to link to the tweet, and bat back at kendzior's claim that the article mocked her. then it was 4 solid days of internet warfare between kendzior's crew & jacobin people, with ongoing exaggerations and misrepresentations and bad faith arguments on all sides. so fucking nasty.

yuck

I'm glad to be on ILX where nothing like that ever happens

hahahaha

i mean i think the throughline here is kendzior misreading things other people are saying about her--like her incredible misreading of stoker's piece, which was about people (like K) attacking the author of the article & the odious tactic of enforcing 'left discipline' via character assassination, which Kendzior somehow reads and passes on as 'stoker says i should be disciplined through character assassination.'

idk like stoker has been one of my favorite writers for years since a minister friend directed me to her, even when i think she's wrong i've been impressed by her empathy and thoughtfulness, so to see her sucked into this and smeared as a rape apologist based on something she didn't even say is such a disheartening microcosm of this whole weird blowup.

i should start writing for jacobin and people can accuse me of being Eugene Debs

jacobin clusterfuck summary corner

so to see her sucked into this and smeared as a rape apologist based on something she didn't even say is such a disheartening microcosm of this whole weird blowup.

Yeah man, the Internet. What can you do. It sucks

The bro bash piece is a good read though

Firing off bro-mots at the brodeo is not only great fun, it’s therapeutic — a helpful coping mechanism for professional or social environments in which the boyish and brutish dominate. When it’s not stifling or annoying, intellectual machismo feels, at the very least, comically anachronistic in our modern, enlightened circles. Like men who still wear wristwatches or take overly rustic vacations, these affectations hardly warrant female attention, let alone the respect they’re designed to command.

Men who still wear wristwatches? What horseshit

I loled

I also liked the image of the aw shucks blogger snapping their suspenders to avoid charges of elitism

Lawyers wear wristwatches partly because you can't bring phones into some courthouses.

Also because they need to have a bigger watchface than the guy next to them

true

the big takeaway from this whole mess isn't "the left is like high school" it's "sarah kendzior is a liar"

one of my friends posts a lot on fb about how terrible she is, but honestly who the fuck is she anyway and why should I even care?

No one needs to ask permission to cite or quote a public statement. And unless your Twitter feed is private, a tweet is a public statement. Should the writer have included that link? No; it added nothing to the piece (as evidenced by the fact that the piece stands up perfectly well without it). But did she need Kendzior's (or anyone's) permission to link to something Kendzior had, all on her own, entered into the public record? Absolutely not.

i haven't read the orig jacobin piece, but jesus i feel like i get its argument for the amount of time i've wasted figuring out who said what here, and i think it's pretty dumb. i mean, bro-ness and rape culture probably need to be associated, right?

and yeah, pulling up a tweet on something really touchy w/o asking seems a little unethical to me, whatever the journalistic rules about twitter being nakedly public etc etc

but come on, kendzior lied over and over again about what other people were saying about the article and about her

but all of THAT said, the truly odd paranoid speculation from some quarters (looking at u doug henwood) that kendzior is some kind of red-baiting plant to discredit the left

lol didn't even finish

...is really nutty

can someone explain the wristwatch thing please

I don't think I follow

She's critiquing the bourgeois conception of time as something static and measurable like a commodity.

normal people have phones to tell time.

watches are jewelry worn by rich men

Yeah, where that fails is that time is static but not measurable

I think it's supposed to be "the kind of guys who still wear big phallic symbols on their wrists even though they no longer have the cover of functionality"

Also the idea that men wear watches to impress women seems a lil fucked

is the shanley thing a different thing?