The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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hah classic example of the alleged iffy songwriting that actually sounds rad i guess

r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

and this love could've built up armies / of nations unstoppable / ohhhh

so apt that the album ends with dawn actually forming her own nation state

lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

xp eh, I still think her battle motifs are tacky and not very imaginative, but I can let that slide since that's not really the hook here, and it's carry-over criticism from Armor On

Evan and I'm Gettin' It (Evan R), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

the opening line of "300" is "i feel like leonidas / battling the titans / a thousand soldiers against one sword" which appears to be a reference to either the film or to some sort of role playing game

the more OTT the battle motifs the better, i don't know how you can have an issue with this

lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

It's the film, yes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

(Strictly speaking the comic but anyway.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

battle motifs: Tacky? or tactical?

Drugs A. Money, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

a comic, of course it is

lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

strictly strictly speaking Greek history and legend

some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

i cant be the only one who finds this a lil samey relative to LTTP

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

xp the greek king leonidas (historical) never fought the titans (mythical) though

lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Dawn's stuff feels pretty distinct from Dirty Money to me at this point -- if any 2 records risk crowding each other's space it's Golden Heart and Armor On

some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm not pretending to be an expert. did frank miller invent that part of the myth though? xp

some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

i think she threw those together just for the rhyme.

goole, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

like that she interpolates both phil collins and peter gabriel over the course of the record, so i can just think of it as prog

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

at a couple of points there are these almost old-agey computer music stabs, an ancient-future music, then with the 300 deal, yes, what a progger would be mining these days, if they existed.

which they don't.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

oh thank god. i have finally found a way to make this work.

and In the Hearts Tonight ALONE ugh wow ugh wow what

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Proggers exist, but they think Dream Theater is hip and cutting edge.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

(Obviously not every one but...too many.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

midtempo clapping, too!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

i.e. frequency!

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

also, never stop with the c0rny spoken word interludes dawn <3

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

woah @ all of this. brb picking my jaw up from the floor

prolego, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

man. i liked 86 but didn't love it in the context of it being the first single post-armor on.

but 3/4 of the way through GoldenHeart oh my goodness it's fucking devastating.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

just finished and I'm not gonna play it again til it's released

but I will say that 'whiteout' seems to have been more predictive than we had thought, so allow me to say

i told u

ok listening finally

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

EACH SWING I COUNTER I LOOK TO MY FATHER
I ASK HIM FOR FAVOUR TO TAKE DOWN THIS MONSTER
ALL FOR THE HONOUR IT GAVE ME THE POWER
TO DO LIKE NO OTHER TO SAY I HAVE CONQUERED

lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

the outro's really pretty as are other parts of this album but especially the outro

The Reverend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

it's p hard to fuck up claire de lune tbh, probably the greatest song ever written (no lie)

outro is wonderful, seriously one of the most affecting and satisfying finales to an album i can recall i think

pure pure pure after-the-curtain-falls lonely spotlight schmaltz but so good

even its borrowedness is meaningful

r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

the 'pretty wicked things'/'goldenheart' suite p much completely rejects this reading of dawn as mildly autistic fantasist

the sorrow for the "fallen tales" of the former, then the yearning once more for "white knights, white horses" of the latter is a prism you can read the entire album through

r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

The final third of this album is fantastic, although I'm a bit underwhelmed by the rest, especially the first third. Think it's something to do with Dawn's vocal presence, like she's gone for for stateliness over the snap of Armor On and Tell Tale Heart. Like she sounds like she's floating over the top of the battle surrounded by a disc of light when on previous records she'd have been right in the fray.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

'86 video. danity kane tribute or shade?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-C_NAt6uHY

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

the album actually took several listens for me to really get my head around/into it (partly because i only had an unmastered copy for ages) but it was def the less in-your-face final third that took the most time for me to fall for.

i loved "bombs" and "automatic", but even on armor on, by the end of the ep you'd pretty much left them behind, and it would feel odd for similar songs with that hip-hop snap to be on goldenheart...

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I'm definitely prepared for it to open up before me, but the final third clicked immediately, maybe because the vocal melodies are stronger. I'm kind of missing the rhythmic tricksiness of Armor On as well, a lot of this one is very... hymnal, even over the bangers. Northern Lights is great though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

there's so much going on rhythmically here though - all those handclaps interacting with the main rhythm line in so many of the tracks...

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

does anyone else have the problem that 'gleaux' just makes you want to go and listen to Last Train To Paris another eleven times? (i can only assume that's why pretty wicked things comes next, to keep you from wandering away)

my chemtrails romance (c sharp major), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:20 (eleven years ago) link

it would feel odd for similar songs with that hip-hop snap to be on goldenheart...

Why? There are some pretty in-your-face beats on the first half of the album, it's full of battle imagery.

I suppose the chorus of Pretty Wicked Thing encapsulates the sort of thing I'm getting at, there are several moments here where her vocal presence and melodies don't quite do justice to the force of the track (and the production is great throughout).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

this album is fucking nuts, and also completely incredible

monotony, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

kind of curious to see how reviewers approach it, especially with the full-on commitment to the warrior motif, and the lack of pop / calling-card track to rally around

but like, the gauntlet for AOTY 2013 has well and truly been thrown down

monotony, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol that our mutual love of dawn has turned us all into LARPers

Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

LARP&B

Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

somebody needs to cut the 86 video to just the fight scenes and dub MORTAL KOOOMBAAAT over it

Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

dawn is seaux pretty~~~ my heart is gonna expleauxde

Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

if any reviewers cover it at all (apart from already known fans) it'll be a minor victory

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

lmao @ the actual golden heart she picks up from the forest floor, I wonder if she bought it on etsy

Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

my goal in life is to go to a comiccon w/ dawn

Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:57 (eleven years ago) link


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