Shit Said by Every Libertarian Ever

26. "no, those aren't real libertarians, my version of libertarianism is..."

27. "the only reason most libertarians are white and male is because all those other people just don't understand how much it can help them"

nb: few things make me fume more than libertarian fucktards opining that they ... and they alone ... are the ONLY people who have read or understand the Constitution. few, if any, of these people have law degrees or anything like that ('cause lawyers and law professors are Negro-loving Jew communists liberals and socialists like duh). and none of them have any inhibitions stopping them from "informing" any lawyers that they know about their "correct" interpretations of the Constitution.

(yes, if you can't guess i've been the brunt of this stupidity more times than i wish)

28 "other people's money"

29. "my communist housemate's belief in collectivism is the reason our sink is always full of dirty dishes" <--shit said by my old libertarian housemate about me (i did the dishes more than everyone else)

plz tell me yr third roommate was a priest

the reason your sink was always full of dirty dishes is because it's impossible to keep a sink clear of dirty dishes in any communal living situation with non-integrated eating habits. It's just math, really.

30. (Pointedly ignored.)
"Why should the state of Texas subsidize your education at UT Austin?"

haha I wasn't posting a "things libertarians say" that's my actual observation of sinks in college apartments with lots of people in them

there's never been an apartment lived in by multiple college-aged people with a clean sink and zero resentment

31. "It's not a race issue its a class issue, and besides..."

32. "bootstraps"

31. "It's not a race issue its a class issue, and besides..."

― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:10 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shit said by every college libertarian/anarchist/communist/SDS member...

33. [In response to any argument against libertarianism]: "Did you learn that in SCHOOL?"

34: "businesses and corporations will maintain roads and stoplights because they need their buildings accessible to customers"

35. "I've gotten to where I am on my own, without any government handouts at all"

it's threads like these that make me glad I don't have a Facebook. or talk to strangers.

everything that i will ever put in this thread is from my ex-housemate who i was once good friends with and convinced into move to mine and another friend's house, which happened about a week before he started to read atlas shrugged out of curiosity

things went south

36. "You don't understand economics."

I read the thread title as 'Shit Said by Every Librarian Ever' and thought it was all going to be like "Shhh!"

31. "It's not a race issue its a class issue, and besides..."

― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:10 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shit said by every college libertarian/anarchist/communist/SDS member...

Libertarian unless the speaker knows/uses the word 'intersectionality'.

"Why should I have to pay for [X]?"

^^^uh, 37.

like clockwork the socialist philosophy major of my facebook feed posts a link to a WSWS review of brother ali's album and highlights this part

“'And if we say it how it really is/We know our lily skin still gives us privilege' raps Ali early in the album (“Letter to my Countrymen,” featuring West). This flies in the face of the depiction of American society presented elsewhere on the album, which strongly suggests that all sections of the working population and the poor are suffering. What privilege does 'lily skin' offer the millions of white workers losing their jobs and houses and seeing their conditions of life relentlessly attacked?"

i should remove bookmark before this becomes a thread of my least favorite people

Libertarianism is just white boys and their geishas trying to assert that the rules for everyone else *don't apply to them*, which I guess is a neurotic, guilty mirroring of their unearned societal privilege in [insert year here}. If anyone in my immediate circle/field of vision starts in with libspeak, I nip it in the bud by asking them when they plan to grow a neckbeard.

How come they don't quote Milton Friedman more? I'd like to learn something ....

Glad we don't really have libertarians over here in Yurp.

they don't quote milton friedman more because although he was very much a libertarian, he believed in a very active role for monetary policy (ie the federal reserve) and today's ron paul fans want none of that. ben bernanke is satan, hyperinflation is always around the corner, put all your money in gold and bitcoins etc. etc.

38. I don't usually agree with Alex Jones, but the timing of this Aurora/Sikh temple/Newtown/wherever mass shooting is kind of suspicious.

Glad we don't really have libertarians over here in Yurp.

not really true, btw. this guy used to visit the comic shop i worked for in the 1980s - he really was a massive Steve Ditko fan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Tame

39.) Climate change is a natural, cyclical process that has nothing to do with human activities.

Glad we don't really have libertarians over here in Yurp.

not really true, btw. this guy used to visit the comic shop i worked for in the 1980s - he really was a massive Steve Ditko fan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Tame

― Ward Fowler,

Not saying they don't exist, but they're not particularly vocal as a group. I've only come across people who hold these views IRL on my travels (invariably Americans).

40) "Check out this Peart fill coming up!"

"scratch a liberal, find an authoritarian"

From the Brit end:

"Oh yeah, because Labour are going to do wonders for the economy"
"The problem is, no one likes trade unions"

"Welfare is just like the government putting a gun to my head and demanding I give it to that homeless person over there."

Actual argument made to me by the University Libertarians.

I'm just going to pretend that you never clarified this if that's okay

Loving this thread on so many levels

"the republic..."

#40 = wishful thinking

45) I was at NTB last night getting a tire fixed and there was a guy sitting next to me in the waiting room who was loudly grumbling about the fiscal cliff deal and how it meant that the US was "turning into China".

uh

46. "A=A"

47. mentioning Europe as an example of the HELL ON EARTH that America may slip into

My stepdad did this alot at xmas. I almost asked him "So all the countries you go to on vacation and have a wonderful time in?" but didn't.

48. Republicans are just as bad as Democrats
*votes Republican*

49. "market forces would have ended slavery"

wow, never heard that one.

they really like saying that to black people if my anecdotal evidence is anything to go by

50. finds some fault w/ a Scandinavian country (historically Sweden, but nowadays Norway) and uses this fact to argue that said Scandinavian country is on the brink of collapse or will inevitably collapse at some future date b/c Scandinavia isn't so keen on laissez-faire economics/has loose morals.

51. points to Ireland and Latvia as examples that "austerity works dammit!" wr2 recovering from the financial crisis, but finds fault w/ Iceland (which told their banks to suck it).

Right wingers are in favour of laws, rules, controls - and plenty of them - for and on everyone other than themselves.

Authoritarians are certainly big believers of state power, but that doesn't mean they are big believers in law. Authoritarians and libertarians alike believe in lawlessness as virtue. Power should be outside law

I just don't think that's right anvil. I think you'd find a whole lotta (American) libertarians strongly in favor of an extremely well resourced police department putting the clamps on everyone they disapprove of and enforcing their rights to "be free" of whatever they don't want to have to think about.

In Sweden, you can camp on anyone's land (private or otherwise) for two days, then you have to move on

I wonder how the idaho libertarians would feel about that

Yes, they want enforcers but not laws. Laws act as constraints on enforcers

In an ideal world what the enforcers are enforcing should be informal and flexible, understood but not documented

Yeah, there's that good quote about that (applying to conservatives, not libertarians per se, but same same). "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

We should get rid of laws so I can do what I want / We should get rid of laws so the king can do what he wants

I've quoted Chuck Dukowski of Black Flag before: "Anarchy for me, fascism for you."

I don't think theres much of a tension or contradiction between libertarianism and authoritarianism because both believe power should be held by the person not the office, and bureaucracies such as institutions, laws, and office should be for display purposes only. Attempting to codify such things goes against natural order

But I think there IS a tension between libertarianism and fascism. Libertarianism and authoritarianism aim to depoliticize and de-energize, the public are just potatoes. While, fascists also believe power should be in the person not the office, its aims to energise and politicise the potatoes runs the risk of disrupting the natural order. Active participants can potentially band together, act unpredictably, or start to gain elements of power. I think the tension or contradiction is in whether the public should be activated or not, fascism isn’t necessarily as hierarchical as libertarianism or authoritarianism, with a potential danger of power flowing upstream as well as downstream