man this thread is p stupid
this fucking owned
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
this was the best musical-to-movie adaptation I've seen since Chicago, which makes it the second-best musical-to-movie adaptation I've seen.
However, it turns out that I think Les Miserables is a really stupid musical.
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 06:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'm still planning on seeing it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 06:38 (eleven years ago) link
This musical is the best of all the latter-day myoozicals, it doesn't even come close to making up for the entire genre but I will surely set aside 30 years of bullshit "musical" "theatre" when we go to see it tomorrow
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:07 (eleven years ago) link
you can have emphyzema and choke out "On my own / pretending he's beside me" and I'll still get goosebumps. Plus: everybody dies
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:10 (eleven years ago) link
pfft nah
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:13 (eleven years ago) link
several of the dumber characters were alive at the end in this version
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:15 (eleven years ago) link
I could reserve my challops till after listening to a cast recording or watching the concert film or whatever but that wouldn't be very ilxory
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:17 (eleven years ago) link
anyway I think this is dumber than Rent, and Rent is pretty dumb. *drops mike*
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:20 (eleven years ago) link
I wouldn't accuse Rent of being dumb so much as being manipulative, gaysploitative, blaxploitative, classist, patronizing and smarmy, plus every song was worse than the one before
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:40 (eleven years ago) link
iirc only Marius and Cosette are alive at the end, everybody else has committed suicide, been executed, died of starvation, or "ascended gloriously to heaven on the wings of song"
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
Oh my one funny story about watching this was, I was doing my usual thing of not learning too much about a movie before seeing it, and I was thinking to myself about twenty minutes in that it was a relief Helena Bonham Carter wasn't in this
then blammo as if on cue there she appeared
― autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:47 (eleven years ago) link
lolshe is in everythingshe and Helen Mirrin and Judi Dench are the Hecate of British cinema
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:51 (eleven years ago) link
never seen/heard the musical before. some of the big numbers were stirring, but i thought the second half of the movie was interminable. eponine, marius and cosette were all dumbass fucktards. russell crowe was alright in his scenes with other people, but his two big solos were real bad. he seemed like he was concentrating as hard as he could on getting the singing right, and as a consequence was really stiff. wolverine's got some pipes on him though, damn.
i dunno, maybe somethings wrong with me. the whole theater was sniffling during valjean's death scene, but i was just thinking about how bad i needed to piss. my attention wandered bigtime during a lot of the songs, including that one.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
i agree with most of that, partic crowe's stiffness. thought all the acting was pretty good though
hathaway's "i dreamed a dream" was AMAZING, like i knew nothing about the story coming in and sobbed during it amazing
also agree the last third was too long. again i didn't know the story beforehand but i kind of expected it to end after
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
...valjean brought the young guy back to his daughter, though i can see how that might have been too disney-movie of an ending
also i kind of just loved the character of valjean and jackman's performance. his eyes did a lot of srs acting imo,
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
everyone dying at the end was pretty cool too
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
I understand that Sacha & Helena BC stink up the place but at least some Youtube searching on that matter has caused me to find Matt Lucas and Jenny Galloway at the 25th Anniversary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sD5hjYXD3E
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
oh they were fine for the comic relief they were intended to be, but they were probably in too many scenes
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
I have a soft spot for musicals -- I blame it on incessant listening to Oliver! when I was a kid -- and I like Les Mis more for its ridiculousness than in spite of it. My theater-geek girlfriend is similarly inclined, so we're looking forward to this. Not because it will be good in any serious sense. But, you know, shamelessness can be its own reward.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
i dig a lot of old movie musicals, but broadway-style musicals never did it for me
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
This is one of those movies that turns my FB feed into a true tale of two cities.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
movie musicals absolutely need abstract body patterns and lots and lots of fountains
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
jackman is pretty much 100% why I want to see this - love any opportunity to see him singand I'm v curious about Hathaway
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
who is responsible for trading in dancing for belting out hallmark cards, and can we flog that person
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Hathaway as Javert?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
jackman's real good in this. if he wins an oscar it'd be well deserved. same with hathaway
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
this movie shouldve had the lyrics onscreen the whole time with that little ball bouncing on each syllable
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
otm. I guess Fosse was the last gasp of great Broadway dance? Or I guess, Twyla Tharp has had some big shows. But none of those have been made into movies (and I haven't seen any of them, so I don't know if they were any good).
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
hathaway didn't have much screen time at all but she was wonderful, yeah. jackman should get some recognition for his part i think
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
Jackman only seemed great because he played most of his scenes opposite Russell Crowe.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
Like the Twilight movies, I'm only happy that this exists for the hilarious Walter Chaw review:
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2012/12/les-misérables-2012.html
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
the only one who makes real emotion of the melodrama of cramped source material that has the audacity to not only introduce a new generation of characters post intermission, but also ask us to invest in a love triangle between three pretty little ciphers chirping their sorta-pretty little songs.
yeah, exactly. the part where it turns into a teen movie is when i started checking out mentally, and spent the rest of the movie counting the pores on the actors faces
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
I cannot emphasize enough, again, how horrible Crowe is in this
― Simon H., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
I really liked Crowe as Javert. I feel so lonely.
― JRN, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Doubt I'll be seeing this. Saw it on Broadway, didn't even love it THEN, and well...
But, ain't gonna hate on those who did like it. I'm just more miffed at the people who are writing scathing nastygrams on their FB Wall to people who had the audacity to criticize the film. One FB friend boasted that Crowe could "wipe his ass" with your paycheck.
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
(This criticism coming from a guy who...had yet to see the film).
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
can't find much to disagree with in that review - way too many closeups, at least 30 minutes too long, confused politics, and crowe's singing was pretty bad. yet...i liked it - am i just a sap? the whole thing is just so warm, deliberate, and kind-hearted. kind of think you have to be a real grump to not have felt it at times
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
Awwww crypto I love your DN <3
I like that the musical keeps the Balzacian epic quality of the book. It allows minor characters to have big lead songs. In contrast to, say, the latter day revisions of a lot of 19th c source material where the central romance is emphasized at the expense of setting and backstory (modern cinematic adaptations of Great Expectations, Jane Eyre for example)
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
way too many closeups, at least 30 minutes too long, confused politics.......yet...i liked it - am i just a sap?
i've been reading and re-reading this and i've decided this movie is just .... lyfe
― banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link
aw sentimental k3v
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link
uh h4a these used to be basically the same thing until culture died.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
Crowe's rock background is kind of obvious in this clip - dude stands like they're singing Evanescence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fB6LIsntpg
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 December 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeahhhhh i noticed that haha
― k3vin k., Thursday, 27 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
for all the shit gerard butler got for his singing in phantom, crowe was way, way worse
― k3vin k., Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
I saw this, it was pretty OK. Considering how lame some of the songs are ("Bring him home", "Empty chairs") they did a great job, both actors and performers
I'm willing to admit that the 3 minutes of Anne Hathaway singing "I dreamed a dream" was the most moved I've ever been by anything since prepubescence
I liked also how gross it was, from Javert breaking his back as he fell to the snot and eye-boogers and shit and thing, it kept the pathos in the Real Zone
The whole second half has some dreadful songs though, some of them so bad I'd forgotten they'd existed
Russell Crowe wasn't as bad as people say, he just sings like a trombone. His death scene was good
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
ah now cmon, spoilers
― banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ "sings like a trombone"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 December 2012 06:18 (eleven years ago) link
His last sound going over should have been the "wah-wah-wahhhhhh" noise.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 December 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k
http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/kevin-keller2__oPt.jpg
― buzza, Friday, 28 December 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link