vatican shadow

If he wants to rebrand he has to change names. Vatican Shadow is DF's war-themed bedroom techno project, just like Exploring Jezebel is his femdom/male-humiliation fetish-themed noise project and Christian Cosmos is his Christian-themed ambient-industrial project.

Is that Exploring Jezebel thing any good? It looks like every track is 45 minutes (!)

I haven't heard that one. 8 x C90 sounds like a great way to release music! Also, lol @ each side being called a "Dildo": http://www.discogs.com/Exploring-Jezebel-Penis-Torture-Chamber/release/2384418

It's on digital release, too, looks like.

is there any ilm thread about the arbitrariness of paratext in electronic music

like what if drexciya instead of black science fiction had been about a counterfactual reality where the british empire never finished

roman empire never ended iirc

what else sounds like vatican shadow

Vatican Shadow I've heard was pretty close to Sandwell District and their off-shoots (go and listen to the Silent Servant album if you haven't heard that yet). Also maybe Morphosis too.

it sounds like early 80's SPK

Fernow put out Silent Servant's album this year (Hospital Productions is his label). It's a bit like VS but better and without the war on terror titles

He's also in a black metal band, which I'm guessing won't come as a massive shock to anyone - http://www.last.fm/music/Ash+Pool

Also merry christmas everybody

i have the silent servant album which is my kinda thing, but apart from one or two tracks it hasn't quite clicked (yet, maybe)

the christian cosmos youtube crut posted is great

thanks to whoever mentioned morphosis and reminded me to listen to that album

andy stott and actress are much better ref pts than burial imo

Andy Stott definitely, Actress doesn't have quite the right kind of echoey dank sonic murk going on (it's about tone, not beats or whether one is dubstep or industrial or techno). But Andy Stott's titles are pretty innocuous so he doesn't fit the point I was making like Burial does - as far as I know there's no discourse or mythology around Andy Stott that stems almost entirely from track titles. People hear associations in the music because the producer has led them there largely through extra-musical means (although the music is certainly sombre enough to fit). As far as I know VS isn't actually sampling music from war zones, although I'd guess he uses some heavy imagery in the live show.

Other stuff from this year that you could probably link somehow to VatShad:

Cut Hands - power electronics mainstay goes techno while roping in themes of fear, violence and imperialism from other people's woeful histories
Shackleton - labyrinthine Fourth World post-dubsteppe haunted with the ghosts of lost tribes, murdered monks and dead intelligence operatives
Shifted - interminable grey slog across a shell-pocked landscape all to the deadened thump of a post-Gas kick drum as heard from the shitty confines of a cold, dark car boot
Shed - combat zone techno with big blocks of sound rumbling into position on the backs of scud transporters under sporadic but futile small arms fire from renegade snares
Raime - bleak but pouty post-goth electro played at doom metal slug speed, something tells me these guys tuck their jeans into their lace-up boots, but probably more out of sartorial pride rather than agricultural necessity

darkwave darkwave darkwave, i feel like i've come over all martian

There's a Prurient album coming out on BEB next year, and the last track was on some BEB radio show recently (it's on Doufcloud somewhere) - I only listened once a few weeks ago, but it sounded pretty awesome - going further in a techno direction, I guess.

Greedily checking out anything I haven't heard of on this thread in the hope of finding something I love as much as the Silent Servant album (the VatShad is p. good too, since I'm on his thread)

No one's mentioned Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement yet (at least according to a quick check a moment ago), and they deserve to be mentioned, esp. since it's on Hospital Productions, is already another really prolific project, and is most likely D. Fernow yet again (either solo or maybe with Kris Lapke as on the Christian Cosmos material).

Ltd. cassette releases from the last year or maybe two have been made digitally available throughout 2012, to the extent that this catalog of downloads collectively made #9 on Boomkat's staff year-end list:

http://boomkat.com/search?q=Artist%3A%20RAINFOREST%20SPIRITUAL%20ENSLAVEMENT&fields[]=artist,track_artists

(Everything I've heard has at least been very good IMO, but FWIW, I'd recommend checking out either "Fallen Leaves Camouflaged Behind Tropical Flowers" or "Papua Land Where Spirits Still Rule" to start)

(In other words: Antipodean death-ambient eco-justice OSTs FTW?)

if you're looking for some dark industrial techno, this is outstanding : http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/album/basic-house-im-not-a-heaven-man

this year's best stuff best stuff in the genre with carter tutti void & silent servent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keap3YKrcAk

this is more like it

"interminable grey slog"

lol

dl'd immediately from the descrip tbh

Prurient track I mentioned upthread is at 1hr 39m here:

http://soundcloud.com/n_u_t_s/2012-11-02-14-00-00-open-deck

feel like vatican shadow ppl would also like fatima al qadiri's GSX

Prurient album now streaming here:

http://pitchfork.com/advance/31-through-the-window/

Really can't get enough of this, esp. the title track (the one I linked above).

this is really great, title track is amazing. first prurient album i've heard - much more technoey than i was expecting

technoey deschanel

it almost makes me want to check out the other prurient albums, but I suspect they don't sound much like this?

most of them don't. it really depends, but most of them tend towards the harsh noise end of the spectrum.

bermuda drain has some similar moments, but a lot more yelling over the top

this is the sort of thing I think of when I think of Prurient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-kIMhSD5r8

Seriously this is the best Prurient album since '08 or '09, before he went off the deep end

I ordered this from Barnes and Noble, was totally expensive but I think it'll be worth it

Tiger Smells A Corpse is incredible

is there something up w/the spotify versh

this is how i remember prurient back in the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlSnjs-rl0

I really like the minimal synths he does on Bermuda Drain. I can just about put up with the screaming. On the Palm Tree Corpse tune it's fucking incredibly awesome.

so many future vatican shadow track titles floating around right now

i cant read an article about the boston bombers without picking out phrases for vs tapes

chechnya's ghosts loom large in death of former santa

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 08:07 (3 months ago)

i checked out the new prurient project but it just wasn't as enjoyable as vs

can't get into prurient

more like purr-ient

new prurient great ebm

Caught this guy's live show last night, it was sonically amazing but really uncomfortable to view, particularly when he was raving and gurning in front of a projection of images of dead soldiers and 9/11 headlines - it felt exploitative. Do I just not get this guy's politics? It was provocative and stirring but it felt a bit cheap and ruined any pleasure from the music itself.

I saw him live at Sonar and he actually got a bit of dancefloor action going. There weren't any visuals. I don't know if he was doing something a bit different because it was a dance music festival

There was lots of dancing when I saw him! It kinda added to the discomfort I was feeling. Like, the point he was making about de-sensitisation to war imagery and violence fell flat when people were bouncing about and fist-pumping and generally being... de-sensitised. And when it doesn't work all that's left is folk partying alongside images of war casualties and 9/11 headlines.

I'm sure it's just something I don't understand rather than anything intentionally exploitative.

i think his politics involve the intentional exploitation (or at least decontextualization) of sensational politics - in some sense i think he's fascistic (tho w/ more of a nihilistic ends than a political one): 'Mankind, which was in the age of Homer an object of contemplation for the Olympian gods, has now become one for itself. Its self-alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order. This is how it stands with the aestheticization of politics that Fascism pursues. Communism responds by politicizing art.' -- he's aestheticizing politics, not politicizing art imho.