PEOPLE OF THE NATIONS, DANCING TOGETHER! It's the 1990s TOP 100 ELECTRONIC TRACKS poll results!

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As a fun, novelty dance track, there's nothing wrong with Scatman. Same with Sandstorm. However, on a countdown of top 100 electronic tracks, giving place to gross, cheesy, formulaic shit like Sandstorm is detrimental to the legitimacy of the entire list. Again, only my opinion. Maybe you're a big cheese lover and can't wait for the Haddaway and Stakka Bo tour to hit your town.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

"detrimental to the legitimacy", you say.

Tim F, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

Not really, but Haddaway and Stakka Bo both had tunes that I like ten times better than Sandstorm... Unless you hate Eurodance in general, I can't see why you would diss Haddaway either. His tunes were totally legitimate club music back in the day, not even novelty stuff, if that's what you don't like.

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Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

I DJ'd in the early/mid 90s and played all sorts of cheesy Eurodance. Scatman, Haddaway, Stax of Joy etc. There's nothing particularly wrong with it but it's shocking to me that the community that posts here rates Sandstorm above any one of the tracks that finished lower. Again, your opinions may vary.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Haddaway had a pretty "credible" comeback the other year, Wolfram feat. Haddaway 'Thing Called Love' (Legowelt Remix), if that's what concerns you.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

It's probably for the best I didn't vote in this, I would have campaigned heavily for "Speed Racer"

still hoping to see "James Brown Is Dead" and "Dildo", too

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

I have been enjoying this thread immensely but finding out about PERCULATOR (how could I not know?) has taken this to some hitherto unknown level of awesomeness.

calumerio, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Far more peed off about Doom's Night's placing than Sandstorm's if I'm being honest.

The Nightmare Before Christgau (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

… I probably wouldn't place Sandstorm in my Top 5000 though.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

I have been enjoying this thread immensely but finding out about PERCULATOR (how could I not know?) has taken this to some hitherto unknown level of awesomeness.

have you gone down the Green Velvet rabbit hole yet?

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

In calumerio's house, it is now truly time for the Perculator.

The Nightmare Before Christgau (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

Great producer, dubious taste in coffee brewing.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

'stella' below 'sandstorm' is the wrongest thing i've seen all year.

So: The Answers (or something), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

The problem with Scatman is that it's kind of degrading to other Scatmen, is it not?

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

omg I'd never seen the video for Scatman, I may die of laughter

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

OK, let's all list some tracks we 'want' to see place..

Sunchyme?

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

Dur Dur Baby - Jordy

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

I will be so hilariously proud of everyone who voted in this if "Speed Racer" by Alpha Team shows up

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

"Sandstorm" was the one thing the raver kids in HS listened to that managed to rub off on me just through sheer ubiquity. I dunno, it's cheesy in the best way.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

it's marginally better than '9pm til i come'.

So: The Answers (or something), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

Xxposts have been on Green Velvet for a while - accidentally went HEE HEE HEE HA HA along to Flash while out Christmas shopping the other day - but somehow never went to THE PERCOLATOR.

calumerio, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

I think, esp. on ILM, "Sandstorm" stands in for an idea of unabashed trance immediacy as much as anything else. While this may result in it being overrated slightly compared to alternative options (if I was gonna choose something from the second golden age of pop-trance I'd probably go for "Toca's Miracle" first, though obv that is much more cheesy), the idea that it besmirches this list in any way is total BS.

If anything the populism of this 90s list should be instructive vis a vis the rigorous middlebrowism of the 00s list.

Tim F, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

w/ILM "at its best", immediacy is certainly in play.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

it is clear to me that halfway through the list is, exactly, time for the percolator.

also that someone could change their name to cajumerio

c sharp major, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

Just so we're clear, ILM is happy to stand by Sandstorm being a better song than Inner City Life. I wouldn't have imagined that result. I don't have a problem with populist tracks placing, notice I said nothing about Rhythm of the Night, it's just this particular placement makes me want to call shenanigans. Maybe some people voted for it higher than they truly rate it in order to make a point.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe some people like it more than you.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

I'm certain that's true.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

Let me drop some science for you: a populist tune liked by lots of people might do better than a celebrated tune that a smaller amount of people really really like in a poll of this nature owing to the tabulation process. This doesn't mean that ILM is "happy to stand by Sandstorm being a better song than Inner City Life" - there might not even have been any individual ballots featuring both tunes.

I'm much happier to see oddball results like this that I don't necessarily agree with than the endless soul-destroying trudge of Autechre albums on the albums list.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

it's just this particular placement makes me want to call shenanigans. Maybe some people voted for it higher than they truly rate it in order to make a point

ok dude what, is this the guardian comments box? you think there's a conspiracy going on? you think there's a secret board where a bunch of otherwise impeccably-tasted ilxors have plotted which popular trance track they're going to push to a place at the top of the bottom fifty of the 90s dance trax poll? you think in a poll where people have no obligation to reveal their ballots, where people can only name 75 tracks of a beloved decade's output, people are faking their tastes for the sake of a rhetorical point? is that something you would do?

c sharp major, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link

duly noted. carry on then.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:53 (eleven years ago) link

Wish I'd remembered to vote for Sandstorm.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link

47. Daniel Wang - Like Some Dream I Cant Stop Dreaming (Balihu Records, 1993)
444 points, 8 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/likesomedream_zps38179665.jpg

http://youtu.be/zyCuWIq2PhU

'like some dream i can't stop dreaming' was the first release on his balihu label, early 90's i believe. it is a classic and seems to have been comped ALOT in the past few years.

― jaime, 11. toukokuuta 2007 6:28

A classic, Daniel Wang - Like Some Dream I Cant Stop Dreaming. Especially from 2.45:

― MikoMcha, 27. helmikuuta 2012 19:17

Yeah, that is great.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), 27. helmikuuta 2012 19:25

Found a used copy of his Balihu comp on Oxygen Music Works (with some hideous cover art, sorry) and Moodymann's "Silentintroduction" at the local used record/vhsdvd/mostly books store last year. Someone had lost their way, clearly, but it was one of my better music days ever. The Balihu comp is top notch. More love for "Like Some Dream I Can't Stop Dreaming", "Berlin Sunrise", and "Free Lovin' (Housedream)."

― matt2, 11. toukokuuta 2007 17:56

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'd never even heard of that tune before this poll... Is it a case of a rediscovered track or something? I could only find a couple of posts on ILM that mentions it before 2007.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 08:16 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, looks like the EP it's from was repressed in 2007, that would explain its resurgence.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 08:17 (eleven years ago) link

I hated pop trance in 1999-2000 and I still loved Sandstorm and knew it was a fucking banger. I probably enjoy it more than Inner City Life and seeing it pop up here was almost as good as when Smang It finished above Bring The Noise.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

That Hey Jude remix is really something.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link

But seriously: what are these reasons to diss Scatman?

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ledge, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

i liked "Sandstorm" well enough when it came out but the key moment for me was when i was djing this one night somewhere around '05, playing hits old and new to a few hundred students/alterna-types/punks/metalheads, and when i played "Sandstorm"... man, the pandemonium that broke out, i've never *ever* seen anything like it, it literally looked like people were gonna start tearing down the walls!

immensely enjoying this rollout, beats the crap out of the 00s poll's fifty shades of Kompakt snorefest - thank you so much for doing this Tuomas!

Mind Taker, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

Was just gonna revive the albs poll to say thanks so much for filling in my gaps re: Kompakt snorefest.

Enjoying both countdowns v much - but yes, that one chart can be so far from the charts at points while the tracks seem always nearer is something.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

Has ILM's love for filter house diminished as the years have gone by? I was totally sure that one was gonna be in the top 10... It was #16 in the general 90s singles poll we had in 2004.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

Music Sounds Better With You has only gone up in my estimation over the years tbh.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

45. The Aztec Mystic - Jaguar (Underground Resistance, 1999)
447 points, 9 votes

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/jaguar_zps72eb7795.jpg

http://youtu.be/9UFKA1nWH38

Jaguar is a great track, I do like the Mad Mike remix

― espresso fetish (espresso fetish), 12. syyskuuta 2005 4:14

Personally when Carl Craig played Jaguar after a long bleepy glitchy type track and those massive strings just came in, it was fantastic. I therefore nominate DJ Rolando-Jaguar for classic status. What a song.

― Ronan (Ronan), 14. marraskuuta 2002 13:20

'Jaguar' is definitely an ultimate closing track - did a big techno mix once and it made such perfect sense to finish with it

― stevem (blueski), 14. marraskuuta 2002 13:24

I think Jaguar is a fair choice, I mean it really is a fucking triumph for subtlety and a deft touch, it's not just a dance record, not just a record to dance to, it does have a kind of soul feel to it.

― Ronan (Ronan), 22. marraskuuta 2002 13:20

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

Don't know the Daniel Wang record for some reason - interested to hear that when I get home

suare, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

there really aren't 44 90s dance tracks that are better than these last 2, there prob aren't 44 better songs full stop

jabba hands, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

44. Green Velvet - Flash (Relief Records, 1995)
455 points, 8 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/flash_zps2cb161a2.jpg

http://youtu.be/l_RfediFJFQ

"Flash" - original mix and Timo Maas remix are v. good.

― Tracer Hand, 22. heinäkuuta 2002 3:00

Also Flash is the last song I can think of which made me laugh out loud aswell as think "fuck this is great". Genius.

― Ronan, 22. heinäkuuta 2002 3:00

CAMERAS READY PREPARE TO FLASH

I sometimes think I don't need to ever listen to anything else besides this song.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), 8. kesäkuuta 2005 22:13

One thing that strikes me about the Green Velvet quote I posted is that it is instantly evocative of that paranoid beat, particularly the fantastic snare rolls that immediately follow it. I'm instantly transported into the dingy nightclub, bumping into club kids doing bad club things and taking pictures on my cheap disposable camera. You can see the horrified expressions on the parent's faces as the wander through the club; the worry in their eyes as they scan frantically for their own kids while a little voice in the back of their heads reminds them of what they were like when they were kids, fanning the flames of fear and desperation to a fever pitch.

All of that imagery is tied up in a simple little phrase.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), 20. lokakuuta 2003 17:01

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

man I REALLY should have voted in this

fuck you, busy life

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Jaguar is WAY too low, just one of the most amazing tunes ever.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Can't wait to see where "Children" places on this list

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link


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