!!! Under New Management !!! It's The ILM NON-ELITIST METAL ALBUMS POLL 2012 NOMINATIONS THREAD

AG is most welcome to participate in nominations and voting but the rules are set.

You rock for doing this and I'm happy to participate with the rules as they stand.

PS - nice trolling "glumdalclitch."

Krallice - Years Past Matter
Bosse-de-Nage - III
Car Bomb - w^w^^w^w
Wizard Rifle - Speak Loud, Say Nothing
Dog Shredder - Brass Tactics EP

Is trolling normally a feature of metal poll?

1) Yes
2) They're real records
3) I think, from memory, the Wizard Rifle record is good enough to be nommed (though I might be thinking of someone else)

Was talking about the other dude

The Wizard Rifle record is great.

Sorry, I was only skimming this. I don't normally get involved in nomination threads.

So far, there are 247 album nominations which is a lot but do remember Nominations will close at 7pm EST on Friday, December 21st 2012 (that's midnight for the Britishes and 4pm for our friends on the left coast of the US). so if there are more albums you wish to add then you have only a few more days to do so.

Eagle Claw - Timing Of The Void

Not sure how I missed that one first time around.

Seandalai will be doing the counting up votes dealio (thank ye kindly) and has suggested, in his communications with the new management team, ending the voting period a week or so earlier in order to influence some late voters in the proper ILM poll into voting some metal from this list. One assumes that will be A-OK with the majority of y'all? It will mean voting will end on Friday January 4th 2013 with roll-out commencing on the Monday. With voting opening this weekend it will give everyone time before Christmas as well as a few days into the new year for the stragglers. With smaller ballots than the past I do not foresee any problems especially as your favorite albums will have formed over the year. I fail to see how an album heard in nominating period could be a favorite or best of the year like what AG insisted on in previous polls. As we stated earlier the point of the poll is to decide on the BEST hard rock/metal albums of 2012 not a list of every album released. A separate list thread could be started for that.
I couldn't start nominations earlier because I had not got a reply from AG initially as the web-mail went to his spam folder. Luckily he found it and got back to us. So thanks to AG for that.

sounds good.

Also anything that was released for the 1st time in the US in 2012 is eligible. So The Devil's Blood album xhuxx nominated is added and so will other US releases from 2012 if there are any, and of course get nominated.

I think the question in that case is – you're cool with something that placed on last year's poll placing in this one?

My answer would be if you don't want it in the poll then don't vote for it but those who do can. What if you didn't vote for something last year as it wasn't out in the US? Not everyone lives in Europe or illegally downloads. I don't know what won last year but its highly unlikely it falls under this category. xhuxx nominated an album and it's up to individuals whether they vote for it or other US 2012 releases or not.

Just FYI – 11. The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicentre (1,056 Points, 29 Votes, 3 #1s)

xhuxx can always withdraw his nomination but someone else will probably just nominate it.

I'll leave it up to you guys. It won't make my Top 20 anyway, so whatever you decide is fine. But I'm not sure why placing in two separate years would be a problem, if it got released in two different places and people therefore heard it for the first time in both years. (That's happened numerous times in Pazz & Jop, where literal release dates haven't even been a mandate since 1979 or 1980.)

xhuxk im fine with it and if its good enough for P&J its good enough for here.

Fair enough, just trying to ascertain what the new rules are.

Trying to keep rules to a minimum really. Voting will sort out any issues and I strongly believe the previous system of vetoes led to too many problems.

I listened to what the majority wanted and I believe this will make the poll work better.

guys, "New Management" has bravely stepped up to create the kind of "Metal" poll that everybody on the "Who Wants a Metal Poll" voted for except the people who voted for "No Metal Poll" wanted so you should probably cut "him" some slack and just enjoy the "Metal" poll that all you "Metal" fans want to vote for

Thank you

xp - Hear hear! I'm not gonna complain, metal is pretty much the only genre I pay attention to these days so the main EOY poll is not really something I get very excited about (but I do vote in it). I'd much rather have a metal poll that isn't exactly how I'd run it than have none at all.

Secrets of the Moon - Seven Bells
Spawn of Possession - Incurso
Old Man Gloom - No
Unsane - Wreck
Necro Deathmort - The Colonial Script
JK Flesh - Posthuman

thanking you for nomming the Spawn of Possession and OMG records, loved both. have been literally working 13+ hour days at work this week so i'm not sure i'll have a chance to add before the deadline

Ash Borer - Cold of Ages
Horseback - Half Blood

I just got the Deiphago album I ordered from the States. I haven't listened to loads of metal this year, so I fidn voting in a poll like this a bit difficult... Can I vote for just one/two things pls?

1 album minimum, so go ahead.

I plan on voting, but maybe just for 10 albums, which are the 10 I listened to and liked, not like TOP TEN OF A ZILLION or w/e
Not even sure if I have 10? Either way, the ones I liked I liked a lot.

Just to be clear, the due date for ballots is Jan 11?
Voting must finish by January 11th

Voting will start this weekend. You may vote for anything between 1 & 20 albums. Voting will end Friday 11.59pm (UK time) January 11. Results -Monday 13th.

I will add albums from http://pitchfork.com/features/show-no-mercy/9021-the-top-40-metal-albums-of-2012/ that are not already nominated.

Anyone have full lists for Revolver or Terrorizer? Any other metal publications? Does Hit Parader still exist? Was there a Spin metal list?

Here's my favourites of the metal and metal-ish stuff I've reviewed or heard this year (that aren't already nominated). I'm probably missing something but anyway:

Dead Neanderthals - Jazzhammer/Stormannsgalskap
Dying Fetus - Reign Supreme
Jodis - Black Curtain
Murder Construct - Results
On Pain Of Death - Year Naught Doom
Serpentine Path - Serpentine Path
Wölfbait - Wölfbait

Removed lostprophets due to the singers arrest as mentioned here can't believe ilx has no lostprophets thread

There was a spin list, actually. I am out so I don't have the link at hand, but should be fairly easy to find.

Also, sorry for being kind of a prat on this thread.

Can only find http://www.albumoftheyear.org/ratings/10-spin-highest-rated/2012/1 but will look further

found one without having to click through http://www.metalinsider.net/lists/spin-lists-their-top-20-metal-albums-for-you-to-argue-over

I've found out deftones won Revolver Album of 2012 but not seen the list of top 20 albums. Can someone try and post list here before friday night?

This is highly unorthodox but Algerian Goalie msged me and while he is apparently on an ILM posting quarantine he wants to nominate some albums. If nomination-by-proxy is allowed, his list is as follows:

Drudkh - Eternal Turn of the Wheel
Behold... the Arctopus - Horrorscension
Colour Haze - She Said
My Sleeping Karma - Soma
Dawnbringer - Into The Lair Of The Sun God
Cauldron - Tomorrow's Lost
Furze - Psych Minus Space Control
OM - Adviatic Songs
Raventale - Transcendence

I suppose if you think this is me trying to sneak in more nominations of my own (although AFAIK I have 5 left), some third party can back me up... AG if you're lurking plz let someone else know so they can confirm.

Thanks!

Tell him that's fine and he has more nominations left if he wants to add them and I am glad he is participating.

oh and the Rock-a-Rolla was posted on fb:

Rock-A-Rolla Top 50 Albums of 2012

01 Neurosis - Honor Found In Decay
02 Goat - World Music
03 Om - Advaitic Songs
04 Earth - Angels Of Darkness, Demons Of Light II
05 Baroness - Yellow & Green
06 Swans - The Seer
07 Melvins Lite - Freak Puke
08 Old Man Gloom - No
09 Pig Destroyer - Book Burner
10 Amenra - Mass V
11 GY!BE - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
12 Converge - All We Love We Leave
13 The Mars Volta - Noctourniquet
14 Ey Vind Kang - The Narrow Garden
15 Eagle twin - The Feather Tipped The Serpent's Scale
16 Scott Walker - Bish Bosch
17 Mono - For My Parents
18 Torche - Harmonicraft
19 Dysrhythmia - Test Of Submission
20 Liars - WIXIW
21 Black Bananas - Rad Times Express IV
22 Hexvessel - No Holier Temple
23 Ufomammut - Oro: Opus Primum & Alter
24 Witch Mountain - Cauldron of the Wild
25 Atriarch - Ritual Of Passing
26 Alcest - Les Voyages De L'Ame
27 Meshuggah - Koloss
28 Enabler - All Hail the Void
29 Jodis - Black Curtain
30 Orange Goblin - A Euology for the Damned
31 Switchblade - Switchblade
32 Open Ambarchi - Sagittarian Domain
33 Menace Ruine - Alight in Ashes
34 Killing Joke - MMXII
35 Sidsel Endresen & Stian Westerhus - Didymoi Dreams
36 Father Murphy - Anyway, Your Children Will Deny It
37 Ash Borer - Cold of Ages
38 Nazoranai - Nazoranai
39 Bong - Mana-Yood-Sushai
40 Unsane - Wreck
41 Anaal Nathrakh - Vanitas
42 Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken - The Death Defying Unicorn
43 Saint Vitus - Lillie: F-65
44 Royal Thunder - CVI
45 Amanda Palmer & The Grand Theft Orchestra - Theatre Is Evil
46 JK Flesh - Posthuman
47 Lento - Anxiety Despair Languish
48 Okkultokrati - Snakereigns
49 KTL - V
50 Black Shape of Nexus - Negative Black

Thank you I will add most of it that's not already nominated but which of these aren't metal/heavy rock/alt-metal and shouldn't be in the nominations list? Amanda Palmer obviously. How Scott Walker? unlikely to have guitar riffs I'd imagine. Mono and Gybe are as guitar heavy as anything on Kerrang list so that's fine especially as no-one has to vote for them if they feel it shouldn't count.

Remember this is a non-elitist poll compared to previous polls. Lets be more open-minded and unafraid of less hip more mainstream albums.

What about pop-punk? Green Day and other bands like them were on the Kerrang! list and made it into the nominations spreadsheet... where do we stand on that?

Liars, black bananas and hexvessel aren't metal. The new mono is basically a neoclassical CD, although I don't really care if you include it or not. It's not so much a matter of being elitist or mainstream, more a matter of having things on the list that just don't fit the genre.

And it isn't a matter of serious voters voting for those albums, and more that if there are things that trolls can vote for to screw up the poll, they will vote for them.

That's why I didn't nominate Goatpenis this year.

I got the Deiphago album through the post finally. Came as a rather splendid picture disc with brilliant artwork, an iron-on patch and a CD. Music sounds like someone yelling "SATAAAAAAAAAN" while throwing cutlery down the stairs.