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Well, if everyone here posted on directly-obtained, absolute facts, there'd be like 3 posts per day. All of them boring. It's a lot more interesting to think there's a sociopathic she-devil amongst us. This place and esp all the off-board chatting is very creepy and seems to have a negative effect on almost all who partake in it.

LUNA IS REAL

OOPS!

i think the real issue here is whether the juggs in "luna's" photos are real or fake

What, you think this is the holodeck or something?

GD, I want to reiterate what I said upthread, which is that I don't think many people here were every calling SHE-DEVIL: we/they have more just been saying "pfft" and "sounds too fishy for me" and "whatever, sounds fake, ignore her." (That is not a malicious personal attack; it is people deciding they're not going to bother believing stuff you say.)

"You" meaning her, not you. Know what I mean?

No, you weren't, but, c'mon, you really don't think many people were? Seems like it started out as "pfft"s, but quickly evolved into SHE-DEVIL. I don't think this thread would be a bazillion posts long (not to mention the revivals of other threads. god knows what been said off board) if everyone was merely giving tame PSAs against her.

god knows what been said off board

Oh to the tee-ehm.

Well, I think the few condemnations she got were mostly in response to other people saying "even if she did XYZ, that's okay" or "who cares" -- which is slightly rhetorical/hypothetical.

The main thing I'm trying to be clear about is that people weren't trying to "warn" anyone or provide PSAs. A lot of people had just found the idea of Luna kind of fishy/funny for a while, and once Chaki opened the gates, people hopped in and said "LOL yeah that's what I thought/heard." It was probably not necessary to have some kind of trial where we air stories and evaluate their truthfulness.

I personally cop to one big error here: as someone who wasn't at all invested in the question, and who'd wondered about this for a while, it was very easy for me to be all "LOL I dunno, sounds fishy to me" -- without properly taking into account how the whole thing would be kind of hurtful and turmoil-causing to those who had personal relationships with her.

P.S. I have no idea about off-board stuff because it's kinda sad enough that I've followed this on-board

i thought chaki explicitly said he was only doing this to warn people? (i'm asking for clarification as someone that's watching this trainwreck without an interest in either direction)

Eh, it was more like:

- im just puttin two and two together
- just calling a crazy person out online
- etc.

We should probably all not rehash it, though, sorry.

no i was saying that its not a unicorn

that was an xpost

I guess it's the "crazy person" part that seems, at the least, unnecessary. I don't think having "relations" with several people from the same social circle and backing out of meet ups means someone is crazy. At least I hope not, cause I don't look good in a strait jacket.

well get your strait jacket bedazzled or something because normal people dont do that repeatedly to alot of people, granny.

But bedazzling takes away the focus from my eyes. If you think she's crazy for that, I'm not going to argue.

well get your strait jacket bedazzled or something

phrase of the day

carry on

and of course i don't take kindly to her apparently telling people that i'm pissed we didn't meet because i wanted to sleep with her. a story she apparently told not in response to this, but a long time ago when she was on ilx being perfectly pleasant to my "face".

a) i didn't want to sleep with her, I wanted to meet for a coffee and nothing more, b) that excuse doesn't work for multiple guys, not every guy who wants to meet her wants to sleep with her i'm guessing, and c) what chaki said.

but still i shouldn't have posted that story if only because it was up to GD to tell it, if he so chose, and not me.

a) cosign
b) cosign
c) cosign

you know who else doesnt want to sleep with her? granny dainger.

You're exactly why this place is generally a shitty one.

How so?

I thought you were making another in the seemingly endless line of snide, ambiguous one-line remarks. If you weren't, I apologize. Guess I'm primed for them.

no, i was. sorry.

deeznuts

you dont have to bring that up. i said im sorry.

where is ned

shootin smack

So... was she the best troll ever?

ned is recovering from jetlag in his waikiki hotel.

ive never heard it called that before

what other terms for waikiki are there?

The Man With The Golden Winky

ned is sounding very joan didion-ish

he was sounding very ned raggett-ish on the phone.

have you got a lot of hawaii mundane lined up for him?

chocolate macadamia factory

The main thing I'm trying to be clear about is that people weren't trying to "warn" anyone
^Nabisco

Yeah, warning someone about something that has hurt others is clearly insane, Misery.
^roxymuzak
god forbid i try to warn people about a emotional manipulator messing with the heads of a handful of ilxors. what a jerk i am.
^chaki
LIFE'S TOO SHORT TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT PSYCHOS.
^chaki

Thanks for clearing up your story GD.

Consider us warned about people who lie on the Internet.

it became that after a while yes. it didnt start that way though.

try as you might but you aint knockin n frm his otm status.

The first one is from before Misery left, that was fairly early on.

Come on can't he be slightly off the money for a fraction of a post? Just once?

theres a fine line between "pointing out something" and "warning"

Yes, and I think going as far as "PSYCHO BITCH" is slightly over that line.

haha wait I added BITCH in :)

i stand by that statement.

Tonight, on Uppity Women!

Chaki hears that someone's been breaking hearts, awards them honorary Bro status.

He hears that they're a woman.

LONG SHOT: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

(training montage)

He finds some bullshit written on a toilet wall, tattoos it on his forearm.

Using TECHNOLOGY, he tracks her to her LAIR and confronts her.

When pressured to come up with something as proof beyond "everyone knows this", he produces the bullshit.

Star of bullshit turns up, says "You all know this is bullshit, right?"

Chaki elected king of the internet.

Is that about it? Have I missed anything here?

I know this is kind of a dickish start to a sentence, but I've wondered occasionally what ILX is like since I've been gone, and it turns out that it's a place where no-one feels the need to imagine why anyone would react differently to them when being challenged.

(Also where you don't need to know what the word 'supposedly' means, Jesus Fucking Christ people it's Comprehension 101)

(deep breath)

nabisco: You've been around a long time man, you know how much people talk and how much they don't. You remember Graham, right, and how when that blew up half of ILX was going "Who, Graham? He seemed so nice!"? Stuff like "if that had somehow magically never occurred to you" is incommensurate with how ILX has always worked.

Also, you know, this is exactly the kind of stuff that you're usually very good at - you've been much fairer to discussing groups of people that you'll never meet and have no direct interest in that you have here with folk who are by internet standards standing in the same room. Unless you're saying that they're all in serious denial, then you have to take them at face value, at which point saying that people are "pointing out" stuff when all they're doing is alluding to some mysterious bullshit is working against the "I'm just being impartial" air of your posts.

I'd have thought, from when Chaki followed her from other threads to here (and I think a factor of this is that you're basically having a fight in another dorm's crash area) to keep barking at her, that it was finally going to blow up. And if it's been kept secret out of consideration for the silent and imaginary wounded, fair enough. But once it's going come out, you'll have the righteously angry on both sides, and one of them is going to end up righteously angry and wrong, so I wouldn't have started with "Bdum-tisch".

If I'm seeming to have a go at you here, I'm not intending to, it's just that you're the last person on ILX that I'd have expected to take the tone of your first few posts, so I'm wondering if I've missed some cast-iron early sign that Chaki wasn't just being a grudgy little fuck.

All the rest of y'all get half a bar.

Also also apart from Chaki's expanding list of the wounded, all the rest of us had to go on is pretty much the same evidence we had of Dee, and I didn't see anyone claiming she was imaginary.