2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

didn't rain to-day! only cloudy!

sorz i havent been keeping up w/teh thread been traveling a bunch - anyway have we talked abt how awesome palin is gonna be in the '12 primaries

cant wait!

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/ap_poll_race_obama.jpg

"AP-YAHOO! NEWS POLL"

hahaha

i'm curious about the results of the concurrent "adjectives that describe whites" poll

poll thread?

wait, people asked to make generalizations about race said some stupid shit?

lol i didnt post it bcuz i think its necessarily telling us anything we didnt know

the independent/republican discrepancies are noteworthy

(or they would be if not for margin of error)

from wandering about up on NE Alberta st yesterday:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2497/img0137vj3.jpg

I call this "The Prosaic, the Quotidian, and the Idiotic."

still trying to figure out which one is which

Meanwhile, woodworking and woodburning skills are still in demand:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5129/img0134az3.jpg

sonderangerbot, i think you meant "emblematic"

538 Electoral Prediction: Obama 311.2, McCain 226.5

baskin robbins has two new flavors:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1092/demcreamhj8.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6716/repcreamaz8.jpg

glad that "smart at everyday things" was included in that poll

white chocolate ice cream ha

Those both sound VILE. Obama worked at Baskin-Robbins when he was a teenager, trivia fans.

just like herny rollins

Whereas McCain owns 7 Baskin-Robbins.

The Whirl of Change is actually quite tasty.

Rollins worked at a Haagen-Daas.

self-pwn

Why is Obama so vapid, hesitant, and gutless?

Why is Hitchens so bloated, nasty, and irrelevant?

You beat me to it.

how could you quote the sub-head & neglect to mention the article is titled "The Dusky Dukakis"!?!!?!

anxiously awaiting hitchens followup piece on "The Mulatto McGovern"

Hitchens writes: "...Obama does not, and perhaps even cannot, represent "change" for the very simple reason that the Democrats are a status quo party."

Renouncing wars of aggression and torture would be a break in the status quo.

But wrt to economic policy, Hitchens is right that the Democrats are a party of oligarchs. Obama will likely do little to change that in the near-term.

However: Hitchens ignores the real change that Obama has been promising since the campaign began, and is delivering: the building of a large, sustainable, progressive grassroots network. This is more important for the long-term health of the USA than whatever political stances Hitchens thinks Obama should take in September of a very close election year.

Plus Hitchens is a jackass.

hahaha where ya been ethan

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More people doubted Obama's qualifications for the presidency in September than had told the pollsters they had doubted these credentials in July. "So what he ought to do," smiled this man, "is spend his time closing that gap and less time attacking McCain." Obama's party hacks, increasingly white and even green about the gills, are telling him to do the opposite. I suppose this could even mean that Sarah Palin, down the road, will end up holding the door open for Hillary Clinton. Such joy!

beside the fact that this literally sounds like a rant of a schizophrenic wtf is "increasingly white" supposed to mean??

hey remember when hitchens actually made sense and took on people who deserved it

seriously how do you fall from correctly shaming henry kissinger for war crimes to writing the kind of bullshit head-up-ass journey through the looking glass bullshit about mainstream party dems that's normally reserved for pseudoacademic handwringers like dinesh d'souza

It's pretty terrible, and Hitchens is smart enough not to quote campaign hacks like they're Robert Conquest.

the sad thing is i can remember a time not too long ago when he was still largely wrong but fulfilled a pretty useful contrarian role in political writing instead of just shitting out cranky jonah goldberg style hack pieces

increasingly white (and even green) about the gills

fwiw

hey remember when hitchens actually made sense and took on people who deserved it

I seriously think that alcohol abuse has had an effect on his mind/mental health.

eh he always held contrariness to be the highest virtue - a slight shift in perspective revealed how loony that is

increasingly white (and even green) about the gills

fwiw

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The Emerald Eagleton

I seriously think that alcohol abuse has had an effect on his mind/mental health.

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http://www.jossip.com/wp/docs/2007/09/christopher-hitchens-nakedshower.JPG

seriously, the dusky dukakis? the fuck?? is there some other interpretation to this beyond lol darkie cuz id like to hear it

plz c&p "dusky dukakis" graph so as i dont have to read the article

Why is Obama so vapid and hesitant and gutless? Why, to put it another way, does he risk going into political history as a dusky Dukakis? Well, after the self-imposed Jeremiah Wright nightmare, he can't afford any more militancy, or militant-sounding stuff, even if it might be justified. His other problems are self-inflicted or party-inflicted as well. He couldn't have picked a gifted Democratic woman as his running mate, because he couldn't have chosen a female who wasn't the ever-present Sen. Clinton, and so he handed the free gift of doing so to his Republican opponent (whose own choice has set up a screech from the liberals like nothing I have heard since the nomination of Clarence Thomas). So the unquantifiable yet important "atmospherics" of politics, with all their little X factors, belong at present to the other team.

^^ wtf does this even have to do with contrarianism?? oh lets wait 5 weeks for hitchens' take on the election which is exactly the same as everybody who posts on the nro blog

well you could consider it contrarian in the sense that obama is obv winning the presidency as we speak

but yah "dusky" o_O

yeah, i mean seriously, slate published it with that headline? wtf?

it is seriously bad enough that he's become utterly incomprehensible 80% of the time, there's no need to add any whiffs of racism to the mess, guys.