USA release in 2012 is fine. No problem with EP's,compilations and reissues that nobody had heard of at the time seem fine with me. Nobody is forced to vote for them if they disagree.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
Another one I wasn't sure about, and held off on nominating, was
Sleep - Dopesmoker
maybe more questionable 'new release' than pagan altar or coven...
― Mordy, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I said I was against veto-ing nominations and voting would sort these matters out but I think dopesmoker is going too far
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
good call
― SeanWayne, Monday, 17 December 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
This is a big blow to the whole Weedian community...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
I am sure they can process it
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I had an idea - can we include the StonerHive top 20 in the nominations, it's countdown will end the same day as nominations here end. Obviously things will already be nominated that are on it, but can you include the albums on it that aren't already nommed? Thank you for your consideration on this matter, New Management.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://stonerhive.blogspot.com/
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Only if some here have voted in it. if so post the full results once its done and I shall add anything not already nominated. Does anyone have the Terrorizer or Revolver lists?
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Everyone happy with just doing a maximum of 10 votes like with Pazz & Jop? Makes it far easier to knock up a list and everyone will only vote the very best rather than 50 albums they heard once.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
I'd much rather list more -- like somebody else said above, more votes makes these polls more interesting, not less, and I've heard my favorite 30 albums this year way more than once -- but then again I'm not the one doing the tabulating. So I can live it.
― xhuxk, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
15 or 20 then as anymore would dilute the quality imo. The poll is to decide this years favorite metal albums on ILM. I.e. voting for albums you already know and rate highly.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
15 or 20 imo. 10 is too few. 20 seems like a good number, but it wouldn't kill me to do 15.
― Mordy, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
Well I voted in the Stonerhive list and I think a few other may have (Sean?)
Personally I think 10 votes is way too small but I guess this new era of metal polling has different purposes and I can understand that.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
OK unless there is lots of complaints about wanting less I will go for min of 1 album max 20 votes.
No fuss no muss.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds good to me!
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for taking this on NM. I like to think AG is looking down from heaven, a wry smile on his face. RIP big man!
― Neil S, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
LOL more like spinning in his grave!
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Good call J3ff (multiple xposts):
Astra -The Black Chord
― suing murdoch for libel (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
AG didn't die.. lol!!!
He lurks..
― SeanWayne, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he's still around, was just kidding.
― Neil S, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
Who shot the Algerian Goalkeeper? CLIFFHANGER
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
AG is most welcome to participate in nominations and voting but the rules are set.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
You rock for doing this and I'm happy to participate with the rules as they stand.
PS - nice trolling "glumdalclitch."
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
Krallice - Years Past MatterBosse-de-Nage - IIICar Bomb - w^w^^w^wWizard Rifle - Speak Loud, Say NothingDog Shredder - Brass Tactics EP
― anonanon, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
Is trolling normally a feature of metal poll?
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
1) Yes2) They're real records3) I think, from memory, the Wizard Rifle record is good enough to be nommed (though I might be thinking of someone else)
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Was talking about the other dude
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
The Wizard Rifle record is great.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, I was only skimming this. I don't normally get involved in nomination threads.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
So far, there are 247 album nominations which is a lot but do remember Nominations will close at 7pm EST on Friday, December 21st 2012 (that's midnight for the Britishes and 4pm for our friends on the left coast of the US). so if there are more albums you wish to add then you have only a few more days to do so.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Eagle Claw - Timing Of The Void
Not sure how I missed that one first time around.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Seandalai will be doing the counting up votes dealio (thank ye kindly) and has suggested, in his communications with the new management team, ending the voting period a week or so earlier in order to influence some late voters in the proper ILM poll into voting some metal from this list. One assumes that will be A-OK with the majority of y'all? It will mean voting will end on Friday January 4th 2013 with roll-out commencing on the Monday. With voting opening this weekend it will give everyone time before Christmas as well as a few days into the new year for the stragglers. With smaller ballots than the past I do not foresee any problems especially as your favorite albums will have formed over the year. I fail to see how an album heard in nominating period could be a favorite or best of the year like what AG insisted on in previous polls. As we stated earlier the point of the poll is to decide on the BEST hard rock/metal albums of 2012 not a list of every album released. A separate list thread could be started for that.I couldn't start nominations earlier because I had not got a reply from AG initially as the web-mail went to his spam folder. Luckily he found it and got back to us. So thanks to AG for that.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
sounds good.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Also anything that was released for the 1st time in the US in 2012 is eligible. So The Devil's Blood album xhuxx nominated is added and so will other US releases from 2012 if there are any, and of course get nominated.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
I think the question in that case is – you're cool with something that placed on last year's poll placing in this one?
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
My answer would be if you don't want it in the poll then don't vote for it but those who do can. What if you didn't vote for something last year as it wasn't out in the US? Not everyone lives in Europe or illegally downloads. I don't know what won last year but its highly unlikely it falls under this category. xhuxx nominated an album and it's up to individuals whether they vote for it or other US 2012 releases or not.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Just FYI – 11. The Devil's Blood - The Thousandfold Epicentre (1,056 Points, 29 Votes, 3 #1s)
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
xhuxx can always withdraw his nomination but someone else will probably just nominate it.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
I'll leave it up to you guys. It won't make my Top 20 anyway, so whatever you decide is fine. But I'm not sure why placing in two separate years would be a problem, if it got released in two different places and people therefore heard it for the first time in both years. (That's happened numerous times in Pazz & Jop, where literal release dates haven't even been a mandate since 1979 or 1980.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
xhuxk im fine with it and if its good enough for P&J its good enough for here.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
Fair enough, just trying to ascertain what the new rules are.
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
Trying to keep rules to a minimum really. Voting will sort out any issues and I strongly believe the previous system of vetoes led to too many problems.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to what the majority wanted and I believe this will make the poll work better.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
guys, "New Management" has bravely stepped up to create the kind of "Metal" poll that everybody on the "Who Wants a Metal Poll" voted for except the people who voted for "No Metal Poll" wanted so you should probably cut "him" some slack and just enjoy the "Metal" poll that all you "Metal" fans want to vote for
― A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
Thank you
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
xp - Hear hear! I'm not gonna complain, metal is pretty much the only genre I pay attention to these days so the main EOY poll is not really something I get very excited about (but I do vote in it). I'd much rather have a metal poll that isn't exactly how I'd run it than have none at all.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
Secrets of the Moon - Seven BellsSpawn of Possession - IncursoOld Man Gloom - NoUnsane - WreckNecro Deathmort - The Colonial ScriptJK Flesh - Posthuman
― beard papa, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
thanking you for nomming the Spawn of Possession and OMG records, loved both. have been literally working 13+ hour days at work this week so i'm not sure i'll have a chance to add before the deadline
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
Ash Borer - Cold of AgesHorseback - Half Blood
― beard papa, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
Castle – Blacklands Owl – First Album Elder – Spires BurnAlunah – White Hoarhound Bevar Sea – Bevar SeaBlack Pyramid – II Spirit Descent – Seven Chapters In A MinorOrchid – HereticNe Obliviscaris – Portal Of I Dødsengel – Imperator Golden Void - Golden VoidAt Devil Dirt – Chapter II (Vulgo gratissimus auctor) Horisont – Second AssaultCaptain Crimson – Dancing Madly BackwardsCorsair – Corsair Wight – Through The Woods Into Deep Water Heat – Old SparkyGlowsun – Eternal SeasonIvy Garden Of The Desert – Blood Is LoveSnail – Terminus
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
was gonna vote but i don't really trust my votes with this "New Management" lurker, i think they should hand the poll back to AG
― ✧ (am0n), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
AG doesn't want to run it. New Management has been gracious enough to take over. Thanks, New Management!
― Mordy, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
rly think AG should reconsider. we don't know anything about this lurker, whole thing seems v shady
― ✧ (am0n), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
I always wondered what happened to The Management since Carnivàle was prematurely canceled.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I can promise that the results will be whatever ✧ (am0n) wants them to be.
― NOMINATIONS END TONIGHT 11.59PM (New Management), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
CLOSED
― NOMINATIONS END TONIGHT 11.59PM (New Management), Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
Not really sure what to do now re voting thread since I'm not manually tabulating now. Voting thread will start hopefully tomorrow or sunday but y'all can start making your lists to have them ready. Here is the full nominations list. Will add lists from Revolver/Terrorizer once they come in unless there is objections.
Thank-you to everyone who nominated. You made things really easy.
― New Management, Saturday, 22 December 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
Voting thread today? My list is almost ready to go...
― Mordy, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be up soon.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Sunday, 23 December 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
2012 NON-ELITIST ILM METAL POLL VOTING THREAD (Closes Jan 11th 2013 11:59pm Britishes Time)
― New Management, Monday, 24 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link