Juan Atkins has never had a S&D thread...

And holy shit Mike Taylor is OTM -- "Jazz Is the Teacher" (which I'd never heard) is phenomenal!

Not to steer off course, but what is the deal with Tresor lately? My local record store just dropped #s 215 and 216 (both Atkins), but otherwise I haven't seen ANYTHING in at least a year....

Now the dust has settled on the first wave of that Detroit techno thing, it's his music that shines the most. The only one to avoid is 'Mind and Body', perhaps. It's not bad, it's just a little safe and smooth. It has its moments.

I think Deep Space and the 12" The Passage (which sounds a little like John Foxx circa The Garden in the strings) are my favourites. As for Clear, that track is a masterstroke that has not aged one bit, as Missy obviously knows.

Incidentally, Erik Davis is still at large as Cybertron, so it seems.

He spun "Clear" and the "Lose Control" instrumental back-to-back at P.S. 1 on Saturday.

http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2005/07/play_it_schizo.html

I know that in addition to the tracks I name, his set included some techno classics. But that isn't my field of expertise so I don't have any names.

Also his 3 (re)mixes of Low Res' Amuck (Sublime#12). Sort of Infiniti-mässig, nicht wahr? Esp. the 1st.

Okay "The Flow (G-Funk Mix)" is canyon-deep.

love for jazz is the teacher, and future, most of all

vessels in distress is kinda drexciya meets depeche mode!

I really like Skynet too, it's a great cohesive hour.

Looking forward to seeing M500 live tomorrow night at the DEMF. I expect nothing but surprises...

Still indignant about the dude maligning Skynet at the top of this thread.

"Never Tempt Me" has such great vocals, the album's tootling along nicely and then you get this near-fuzz bassline and drawly voice and everything steps up to another level.

see there were 'Game One' remixes last year. any good?

i also love 'Rebound' and 'Idea 1' from the 'Futurepast EP' - these MUST be older than 2004 tho ('I-94' is on this as well so all from the same time - all v playful sounding).

22. Juan Atkins - Other side of life
had never heard this until i got this CD - so great + his Inner City moment

Model 500's "The Chase" sounds like something I would want to hear in a tropical coast level of a Sega CD era racing game.

haha yeah totally, it reminds me of the out-run soundtrack, something about that midi guitar line

http://www.discogs.com/release/19657

haha yeah totally, it reminds me of the out-run soundtrack, something about that midi guitar line

-- r1o natsume, Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

Strangely I was reading an interview with a Sega music guy before I listened to this and it just seemed right.

R&S are reissuing Model 500's Classics along with a few other albums on CD (Aphex Twin's SAW1, Ken Ishii's Jelly Tones). Beatport are advertising Deep Space as part of the series, but I don't know if that's coming out physically or if it's download-only.

TAKING SIDES
TAKING SIDES
TAKING SIDES

INFINITI

vs

MODEL 500

M500

game one vs cosmic courier

i might vote for infiniti ... do we need track by track breakdown?

Everyone (except Vahid Mk I) OTM about Deep Space - esp. Mike when he says "I think he managed to nail the "Detroit techno as future jazz" tag on several cuts with this album."

Also I agree with this:

"Now the dust has settled on the first wave of that Detroit techno thing, it's his music that shines the most."

it took a

enigmatic!

oops

it took a while for "deep space" to click with me but it finally did.

still, i really do still think that his "infiniti" work is better than his "model 500" work. there are great model 500 tracks like "starlight" and "i wanna be there" but "game one" lords over them all and i think the infiniti albums are really amazing when taken as whole works, much more so than "mind and body" and with an edge over "deep space".

i should proofread my posts for redundancy

Vahid you didn't respond to my Quentin Harris questions on the Dennis Ferrer thread :-(

I agree with vahid re Infiniti>Model 500, to the extent that when i saw M500 live a few weeks back the enjoyment was stifled by this colossal urge to want to hear 'game one', 'i-94', 'skyway' and 'rebound' alongside 'cosmic cars' etc.

Track down the remix of Annette's Dream 17 and you might change your mind about Derrick. Juan and Derrick are about equal in the 80's. The 90's are a different story...

anyone going to see him tonight?

torn knee ligament here :(

how was juan atkins last night ?

pretty good-- he played a lot more proto-house and house than i expected, but also did some major detroit damage too. well worth it!

he was great! i missed the beginning of his set, but he finished with some disco classics; karen young "hot shot," young & company "i like what youre doing to me," etc. there's a review on this blog: http://bananaspam.blogspot.com/2008/08/juan-atkins-at-bodyheat-part-two.html

What about remixes? I have this vague recollection of Dan Sicko talking about something that JA remixed on a small Detroit label around a decade ago that was supposed to be amazing.

TAKING SIDES

INFINITI

vs

MODEL 500

I actually like Infiniti and cybotron stuff better than M500 overall

don't force me to choose! it will hurt. how about a top 5 tracks instead?
1. Cybotron "Enter"
2. Model 500 "Starlight"
3. Model 500 "Night Drive"
4. Infiniti "Game One'
5. Model 600 "Update"

yeah it is a canonical list but the canon is a canon for a reason. also i haven't heard skynet net, i just have the single.

To understand the marvel that is Deep Space, you need to suck deep on the Devil's weed.

"starlight" remixes on echospace ... gilding the lily, or what?

Mike Huckaby's S Y N T H Mix

^^ ps everyone is creaming themselves whenever they see this after a track name but imo this new huckaby direction is not that great

some of that stuff just sounds like it's sufficiently sophisticated "intelligent" dub techno/house that would be shopping mall music except that it's too depressing.

your comment is trite and lazy

perhaps you think so. just because something is ultra well produced and lush and coming from a very respected stable/part of the world does not make entertaining, that's my point. there's very little to get excited about and a lot of it is completely useless music for djing with. where is the rhythm?

what was your reason for dislike?

"shopping mall music" is a lazy thing to say. but "completely useless for dj'ing" is, i guess, at least arguable

"the field recordings are definitely a nice touch and it's true that mastery of gear (even software gear) is admirable, but i think sometimes that these discussions come down to whether the songs are good or not regardless of the blood sweat and tears that went into their creation."

i'm not going to disagree with that, the final product is always the most important thing. of course to me, most Huckaby and a pretty decent % of Deepchord stuff has a high quality final product. i still listen to Basic Channel and Rhythm and Sound much more than any of the knock offs, though that Incense & Blacklight has been getting lots of play from me this year.

"the original sebbo is a great mixing tool because of the way it builds through the chanting. it sounds even better if you play it with the moritz von oswald remix at the same time.

― tricky"

i like the moritz mix, which is really a whole other track that to my ears has nothing to do with the "original" which i listened to once when i got the record in the mail. it doesn't do it for me.

yeah the remix is definitely the better of the two. the way it ends is like a study of how to very delicately dismember an entire track through dubbing until it dissolves into nothing. at the same time it's like this total swamp of sound. one of these days i will pick up the record.

"yeah the remix is definitely the better of the two. the way it ends is like a study of how to very delicately dismember an entire track through dubbing until it dissolves into nothing. at the same time it's like this total swamp of sound. one of these days i will pick up the record.

― tricky"

indeed, it really does almost completely go away. i did this really nice mix one day that i didnt record in which i was mixing out of the Watamu Beach rmx into M5, it really sounded like they belonged together with the wispyness of the end of the WBrmx floating over the deep beats of the Maurizio jam. i was pretty impressed with myself ;)

haha that is why i record everything! i end up with lots and lots of crap, but there are always ideas worth salvaging. i was listening to this old swayzak mix today and they segued from a really early ellen allien electro track into maurizio by simply letting the allien track play out, but it was one of the best transitions in the mix. it was just yeahhhhhh..super smooth.

i'm usually too lazy to fire up the computer, plus my off the cuff mixes are usually just me forcing whatever new things i've picked up in any genre together which tends to have poor results just about 100% of the time. M5, M7, and Phylyps Trak II are just about always close by because they go so well with just about anything!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T71yV387H8

How fucking spacey amazing is this?

pretty fucking spacey amazing

Saw Model 500 live last weekend at Paradiso as part of Sonic Acts (same evening/venue as Pauline Oliveros!), and they were astonishing - one of the best gigs I've been to in ages; up there w/Kraftwerk. Had no idea it was a four-dude-at-synths affair live, and that one of said dudes was Mike Banks!

picked up "deep space for pennies" largely it is STINKAH!

'Mind & Body' might be worthy of a minor re-appraisal. Amidst the pooh there's a couple of decent tracks - namely It's time, Tipsy and Incredible (dated vocals not withstanding). His collab with 4hero (The Fusion Formula) is probably his best foray into d&b however.

He always brings some great tunes as a DJ (plus some clunkers!)