they usually don't let you in unless they think you can hack it
^^^ was just about to post this
― max, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
don't they sometimes just let you in to take your money?
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
all you can do is do the work! and then the work will be done! all you can do is do the work! and then the work will be done! all you can do is do the work! and then the work will be done! all you can do is do the work! and then the work will be done!
^^ this is the most otm thing about <s>grad school</s> life that has ever been said
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
endless group projects, some programs even have you keep the same group through the whole load. either way you will get to know your fellow inmates so try not to make any enemies or they will shank you in the shower (aka peer evaluation forms).
xpost lol modbot f'd up the code
― bnw, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
i drank way more beer and was way more social in grad school than in undergrad, or even in non-school life (but it took me way too long to finish gradschool).
bell, that is a lot - you can do it, but as you know, you will not be very social and prob not even be able to drink very much beer b/c of hangovers being no good for tight schedules
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
all you can do is do the work! and then the work will be done! is the mantra that got me to finish
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
make sure your boyfriend knows that you are really scared and stressed out about this and that over the next year even if you are in a bad mood and snappy you really do like him and appreciate his support and when its all over you guys will go somewhere nice for a weekend
― max, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
is this your 5th grad school thread?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol u counting
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Dude, n/a, Library School is easy. So easy. I have already taken ten hours towards my MLS while working full time at a University Library. I applied for the Master's program but my fucking GRE Math score kept me out. Really sucks. I took College Algebra a few times before I finally passed. I looked at the study materials for the GRE math and just shrugged, "yeah, I don't know this stuff." Bad idea. Now I need to get into a program or get a tutor, I have to relearn Algebra. For fucking Libraries. Don't undertand.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
not to be an ass, but i did see this title and think, 'another one?!' xpost
― tehresa, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 20:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
why do you care?
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
who said anyone cares?
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
ok, that sounded snarkier than it should have.
i don't care, i just noticed. there's a difference.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
also is a bit funny since ppl always used to get all postal when someone started a thread on a topic that'd been previously discussed.
i mean, you won't have to do organic chemistry, that's gotta count for something
-- rrrobyn, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:21 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
^^^^^ real talk
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
also i start doctor school a week from tomorrow and i am scared shitless
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
mostly because i forgot everything about science :-/
wtf is a "mitochondria"
well, you cared enough to make a comment about it.
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
aw dude you forgot mitochondria? mitochondria and ribosomes and golgi bodies are like the coolest things
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
all doin' the work to make the nucleus look good
lol gbx!!! u better party hard this weekend
― deej, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol I remembered that one! xp
xps tom otm
― dan m, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Even if I could do the math, I think a grad school class in finance would put me to sleep within 5 minutes.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
grad school = pain and suffering
but then you're done, and people are, like throwing money and healthcare at you.
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
also rrrrobyn/bell i have one of the fruitier BAs and i still managed to trick people into thinking i should be allowed to cut a guy legally, so there's that. but then i also had to do 18 months of doctoring pre-school and take a dumb test and then chill for a year, forgetting everything.
xp i was kidding about mitochondria and cellular stuff. it's mostly orgo i've let slip.
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
woah evan wtg!
― tehresa, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
deej: that is in the cards, yes. big party, i will keep you posted
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
also is a bit funny since ppl always used to get all postal when someone started a thread on a topic that'd been previously discussed.-- tehresa, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- tehresa, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I got bitched out for this by Ned in my first thread!
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
check yr email gbx
― deej, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
i should have given flash cards to all the people i delivered to this winter.
"sign here"
"ok....what is the conjugate base of hydrazoic acid?"
"....shit"
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
all you need to know about mitochondria:
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
you will learn a lot, but you will also get fat
― harbl, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
its hydrazoic acid minus one hydrogen
sheesh, you have to memorize names to be a doctor?!?
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
i still managed to trick people into thinking i should be allowed to cut a guy legally
the truth is that i would really like to cut people open and fix stuff. but doctor school seems like crazy talk for me. right now. and i still want to be a communications/writer/journalist person on one very important level.
p.s. gbx i keep forgetting to tell you that you rule for doing all the work and getting in and being almost actually in med school!!
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
bah, i really hated grad school. i hated it, and didn't finish, which i might hate more. i had an exceptionally bad run of luck when i was there, tho.
i say, if you want to work in finance, then you're absolutely doing the right thing and you'll be just fine. it's supposed to be hard! otherwise it wouldn't be worth much.
― goole, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dunno v, i was just making stuff up. i guess that's what they have PDAs for now.
i did just order an anatomical atlas, though, and will be remembering the names of parts on a dead person for about two months straight starting next week.
bell: get a RPN calculator. <3 <3 <3
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Good luck to both of you. My application goes in next week and fingers crossed I will be in the same boat come january.
― Ed, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
ps thanx rrrrrrrrrrobyn.
you should be a nurse and then do journalism about it
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
i just want gbx to be able to prescribe me some of the fun drugs.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atul_Gawande
― jaymc, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
gbx i already have one of these babies
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've thought about the nursing thing too but I'm still undecided. We'll see how I feel after I finish MA in January.
Bell - you can do it. It's only a year. It's going to be tough but also so worth it!
― ENBB, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh i see you just totaled how much you're spending on books
xp
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
you don't need a prescription for SMILES, kevin!
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
just as you cant crush a smile and snort it through a straw either evan.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
+
― gbx, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
gbx what school are you going to? what kind of doctorer are you wanting to be?
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
The Aquatic Flower theory if human evolution
― Treeship, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:22 (6 days ago) Permalink
I think the swellest of terrible theory academic posts to have would be evolutionary psychologist. Seems like u spend ur time chillin and occasionally decide to come up with a nice story to explain ooh, let's say, why women wash the dishes better than men do. Aaand done.
― ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:29 (6 days ago) Permalink
Speaking of special flowers, what do you make of this, Q? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=on-the-trail-of-the-orchid-child
― ljubljana, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:41 (6 days ago) Permalink
I mean I agree that we are all special aquatic flowers interacting bidirectionally with our special environments, but these dozens of theorists whose entire careers are spent saying that over and over and over again in terrible academese--this is pretty annoying to someone who is studying become a social worker and do actual social work. With all of the special aquatic flowers interacting bidirectionally with their special environments.
Mostly I'm just pissed because this particular author was basically like "all human development research is flawed, so why bother, let's just sit here and write millions of masturbatory sentences about how we have so much insight about completely obvious things."
― quincie, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:44 (6 days ago) Permalink
R I have zero background in psych, child or otherwise, so I had no idea that there are actual flower childen! See I liked reading that article because it talked about actual research findings, findings that may actually be useful and generalizable and I think are totally worth doing. Spending your career making up and writing about theories with no practical application--well, I won't say that stuff is not worth doing, but it is certainly not my cup of tea!
Luckily, we'll be moving quickly out of theory land and into neuroscience land soon, where I shall bloom like the special aquatic flower that I am.
― quincie, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:52 (6 days ago) Permalink
the keguro macharia "on quitting" essay linked upthread makes me wonder if we should have a "what the fuck am I getting into with this academic employment stuff" thread
but then, academic employment IS one of the things you might be getting into via grad school, so perhaps not, maybe that discussion IS part of this discussion
still, I am wondering how many ilxors are now post-degree and actively teaching, and if there's already a thread by/for people in the post-graduate school aftermath who are asking themselves what the fuck they're getting into with this academic professionalism stuff?
I found that macharia essay really moving, troubling, and provocative- especially the way that it tests a kind of trite nostrum ("the personal is the political") by walking us through how depression and racism multiplied and fed into each other in one case- i would love to know what his colleagues at umd thought about the essay too, and it makes me think about how race works in relation to expectations in academic generally- I suspect that what he reports is really widespread and not specific to him
plus, as somebody who is up for tenure next year, the narration of a decision to walk away from the tenure track just hit me where I live
(I'm bracketing the argument about "theory" vs. empirical research, as it seems so field-dependent as to be hard to talk about meaningfully, and I'm not sure that a 'defense of theory' is really warranted by someone just going "theory, yuck", as mileage may vary)
― the tune was space, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:52 (6 days ago) Permalink
I started this:
Help, I'm trapped in an ivory tower! Or "what the fuck am i getting myself into with this academia stuff"
But it didn't really go anywhere. Feel free to revive!
― scintilla (seandalai), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 22:09 (6 days ago) Permalink
Q, for some reason I'd got it into my head that you had a psych background somewhere along the way - were you more 'pure' genetics? lol, don't know how to break down sub-disciplines of genetics and really really should.
Tune, the grad students would probably find the 'academia stuff' really helpful as well. and terrifying.
― ljubljana, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 23:40 (6 days ago) Permalink
Nope, no psych background, not even neuroscience! Microbiology with a specialization in molecular virology. Academic molecular virologists do a lot of writing, but the vast majority is research results, not theory per se. So I am struggling a bit getting into the social theory stuff, whereas I have no problem with the social research stuff. I loves me some data!
― quincie, Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:38 (5 days ago) Permalink
Q: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22555447
― ljubljana, Friday, 17 May 2013 13:00 (4 days ago) Permalink
I like the sound of that accelerated program, actually! The fact that some social work requires licensure (which in turn requires a graduate social work degree, at least in the U.S.) has more to do with the lobbying efforts of the National Association of Social Workers and other professional organizations, which are charged with "protecting" their membership. . . of licensed social workers.
― quincie, Friday, 17 May 2013 14:38 (4 days ago) Permalink