American Psycho actually gets better with repeat viewings

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I'm pretty sure they have it a Vision Video (I know they have Cruel Intentions 2)

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 13 April 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

It doesn't explain if it's real or not, the murders. There are several ways to look at it, the main two being: 1) Patrick Bateman is completely bonkers and has imagined all of this in order to escape his real life. 2) Patrick Bateman is completely bonkers, offed like 20 people in a horrific fashion, and since he's right about the monotony of society, no one notices because they all mistake each other for one another. They're both kind of stupid, now that I've put it in print.

My problem lately with Bret Easton Ellis, who I used to like a lot, is that a lot of his work reads like "What if Maxim rewrote Catcher in the Rye", particularly Less Than Zero. I understand that focusing on what Julian wears is an important literary device, but spending FOUR CHAPTERS focusing on what Julian wears is pointless and lulls the reader away from what is actually going on. I wish he'd temper his insistance on boring everyone half to death with details to "prove" his point that violence/drugs/abusive sexual relationships are commonplace and ignored by the jaded modern youth (TM).

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 13 April 2003 22:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ellis actually said you're supposed to SKIP those bits! (Maybe he'd have been better as a playwright: he does have a good ear for dialogue, even if his descriptions just dribble on and on and on...)

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 13 April 2003 23:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree wholeheartedly with him, except it cuts out about 75% of all of his novels.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 13 April 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ellis actually said you're supposed to SKIP those bits!

What a vision! I now imagine Springsteen saying something like "You can skip most of my music."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 April 2003 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
Is there any value in writing paragraphs/chapters that are just designed to be skipped? In some ways I like the idea as a literary device, although I see it working best towards the end of a novel. The reader, enthralled in the storyline, finds themselves skipping pages in their excitement. (Not everyone does this though (like me; I never skip anything when reading.))

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 20 June 2003 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

But what's to be skipped in American Psycho? The murders or the record reviews? and what corrolary might we draw with ILX?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

I think you just outlined it right there, Spencer. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

I think the parts where he talks about his facials and fashion, so I guess it means you should probably avoid "Girly Sports Style".

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

sorry everyone, 'corollary' is the correct spelling.

Anyway, those parts are hilarious and informative.
And the fashion stuff is priceless, I'm paraphrasingk, but 'she was wearing what looked like a cross between used Benetton and The Limited' and a jacket from, I'm guessing Charivari?' it's like historical artifacts now.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with Benetton, my sluttiest suit comes from Benetton.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
Just read the book and I really enjoyed it. The only thing I skipped was most of the Huey Louis discography.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:23 (eighteen years ago) link

heh. i'm just now remembering when we first watched this movie: Election Night, 2000.

It does go downhill after the first 45 minutes.

kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link

actually i like the movie a lot. it streamlines the story, taking the parts of the book that were good and discards (most) of the overindulgent shit.

i do like the book though, in its own trashy way.

latebloomer: i hate myself and want to fly (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

christian bale is really good in the movie, too.

latebloomer: i hate myself and want to fly (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if Geir has ever read the chapters on Genesis, Whitney and Huey Lewis (which obv collectively constitute the greBtest pop writing EVER).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha OTM!

latebloomer: i hate myself and want to fly (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the book, I love the film, teh chapters on Whitney etc are AMAZING, this kickstarted a massive crush on Christian Bale/Patrick Bateman.

the scene where he's naked except for a pair of trainers, and chasing the prostitute with a chainsaw? that's my mr darcy moment. HOTT.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link

The movie is way better than I expected it to be. Mary Harron (not mentioned yet in this thread, wtf?) was the right person for the job. I haven't read the book, but her imprint is all over the movie.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I continue to marvel at how compulsive the book is, and the film is pretty decent. There's as much of my life mirrored in it as Dan's, most likely ;-). I should get my thoughts out on the whole shebang somewhere, someday, probably on the livejournal.

BARMS, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

"Whose moronic idea was it to drink dry beers?"

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 September 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I've probably seen this film in excess of a hundred times. I'm not even kidding.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Monday, 3 September 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

this kickstarted a massive crush on ... Patrick Bateman.
-- The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, August 3, 2005 7:53 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

abanana, Monday, 3 September 2007 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

shes probably best friends with suzy or something and this shit will get me off her list forever but fuck it yo its a real actual goal of mine to sex chloe sevigny someday WHAT UP GIRL
-- st (simon_tr), Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:53 PM (4 years ago)

gershy, Monday, 3 September 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

gershy, revivalist

and what, Saturday, 19 July 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

she be my queen

― s trife (simon_tr), Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:23 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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and what, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

this is probably my favorite movie of the decade

a passion for posting (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

beginning of this thread is so classic!!!

I know, right?, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

btw i saw her two weeks ago in amoeba, she was next to me leafing through the cocteau twins section

omar little, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

http://chloesevigny.biz/chloe-sevigny-02.jpg

and what, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I still think of her as the Sassy magazine intern.

Nicole, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.fashionista.com/images/entries/chloe%20sassy.jpg

Nicole, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

no shit

goole, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Nicole OTM

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 4 October 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

adorable!

tea cake, Saturday, 4 October 2008 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link

WHAT UP GIRL

velko, Saturday, 4 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

funky!

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 4 October 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i really liked the book. i think to capture it on film would be impossible. obv i hated the movie. it only goes 1% towards the violence & disturbing behavior. if memory serves, there was skull-fucking, for god's sake. not that i think the violence is the point, but it's important. as much as i like chloe s. she was totally wrong for the part. and willem dafoe, argh. horrible casting

― ron (ron), Sunday, 13 April 2003 04:46 (5 years ago)

Ron is rong. By about 19% I estimate.

Any cook should be able to run the country. (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 4 October 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Rin was rong I should have said. He may have changed his mind by now.

Any cook should be able to run the country. (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 4 October 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

'Ron was rong' - curse my stubby fingers!

Any cook should be able to run the country. (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 4 October 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/59239/american-psycho-2

will report back on this

abebe's kids (and what), Monday, 2 March 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/3hB19.jpg

Christmas With Mark Hollis (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I am so glad you posted that.

I X Love (Abbott), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

haha fucking hell that's brilliant.

piscesx, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, that totally made my day

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

American Psycho actually gets better with repeat viewings

It can't get much worse.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 December 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

So what do Bret Easton Ellis and Duncan Sheik have in common.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

hooray, "Sweeny Todd" for yuppies

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't know who Duncan Sheik is if it weren't for the fact he keeps getting written up in my college alumni magazine.

sarahel, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

WHY??????

he's such a fuckbucket

you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought the book hinted at that, too, but i don't remember where. what does bateman do at his job? the book and movie were very good at eliding this. this is the first time i've ever used the word 'eliding' btw so i hope it goes ok.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I was just about to post that. Curse you, Raggett!

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

I have to return some videotapes

calstars, Sunday, 23 November 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

Eh. Not a fan of the movie at all, which to my mind defangs and deflates the book.

Though there are parts of the book I can't read these days, I much prefer it. And while I know it's supposed to be unclear whether he's really killing all these people or wishing he were, I always took this book literally.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 23 November 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link

(A much better BEE film adaptation, though problematic in its own ways: "The Rules of Attraction.")

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 23 November 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

Just finished the book, a must read if you like the film.

calstars, Saturday, 6 December 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link

Do you like Huey Lewis and The News? Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

calstars, Saturday, 6 December 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

calstars, Saturday, 6 December 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link

I wish Kubrick had taken this on

calstars, Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vv_wp1hk0

piscesx, Sunday, 7 December 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link


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