TS: Mo Tucker vs. Ringo Starr

Mo's finest moment: the nervous-but-steady beat of "Foggy Notion."
Ringo's finest moment: "Rain."

Moe!

Agreed on both.

First song was 'Guess I'm falling in love', and she's a fine drummer!

I next saw them when they played Reading Uni, with Sterling in the and. Even got to meet them after the gig. (I was going to say backstage, but they didn't go, they just finished the gig and sat down out front for a chat.

I asked about "guess" as they hadn;t played it. "Hey, we can't play everything every night" said Moe. A moment later, she turned to someone in the band and said "Actually, we haven't played that for a long time, have we?"

Next time I saw her was the VU gig in Shepherds Bush. "Guess" was back in the set, with a non-bored Lou vocal (guess he hadn;t played it himself for a long time).

All hail me.

Did Mo ever play a normal kit on anything post-VU? Or was it all stand-up?

Moes drumming suits the songs well enough, the groove is good on stuff like What Goes On, but I think she's over-praised for doing something pretty basic and being a cool person obv.

I'm going to go for Ringo, because I love his slightly-behind-the- beat natural swing. He sounds fantastic just laying down a straight 4-4 (Day Tripper, Paperback Writer, Things We Said Today, Drive My Car) and could roll it around with the best of them (Rain, Come Together). A terrific drummer!

Fact is, she was a fine drummer! Heck, she was playing along to Olatunji and Bo Diddley before joining the Velvets.

I think Ringo just won by default.

Oh man.

She's sticking with Newt
Tax hikes he's gonna dispute
Obama may be quite cute
But she's sticking with Newt

I'm not disappointed or anything. This is the woman who wrote "Spam Again" and "Hey Mersh!"

Crikey

http://www.badreputation.de/VU_Boston_Tea_Party-front.jpg

"Ideology Corrected. Resequenced."

If Sterl had still been around he'd have given her a stern talking to

Maybe a fresh listen to New York pushed Moe over.

When we swing
We hang past right or wrong

WTF Moe, I thought you were cool :(

gonna love to see how many of you are still democrats when yr 66

That's no excuse

Don't think I'll think "socialism" is evil when I'm 66 tbh

Try a little harder there, Whiney. If anything I've grown more left with time.

Peter Cortner (Dag Nasty, et al) on my Facebook link for this: "Maybe she really IS made out of glue."

gonna love to see how many of you are still democrats when yr 66

you're assuming many of us are Democrats now.

yeah, had heard that mo was mixed up with the tea partiers ... oh well! whaddaya gonna do. sure, she was in the coolest band of all time, but she's also a sixty something mom who used to work at walmart.

First Lou Reed makes Susan Boyle cry, and now THIS!

Mo Tucker makes me cry

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9m9xms78a1qzpiyuo1_500.jpg

you're really sticking with that joke huh

He's made out of glue.

i'm sure i'll see the light when i'm 66

gonna love to see how many of you are still democrats when yr 66

becoming more conservative as you age isn't the same as joining forces with the undermedicated lunatic fringe dude - yeah if you get a lawn you're gonna want kids to stay off it but it doesn't mean you lose yr mind completely, I mean by yr own math aren't you now a guy who's not to be trusted or listened to?

i actually think its quite common for people to lose their mind completely as they age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-EhpnOxN4Q

So sad all these 66-year-olds have lost their minds completely.

Michael Douglas
Danny Trejo
Danny DeVito
Sam Elliott
Timothy Dalton
Swoosie Kurtz
Rutger Hauer
George Lucas
Harold Ramis
Tony Scott
John Rhys-Davies
R. Lee Ermey
Stockard Channing
Gary Busey
Jacqueline Bisset
Frank Oz
Jeffrey Tambor
Craig T. Nelson
Bernard Hill
Ian McDiarmid

(Okay, there's one in there that's completely lost his mind, but I don't think age had anything to do with it.)

i actually think its quite common for people to lose their mind completely as they age

my point is that as you age you'll almost doubtless think that less and start coming around to the conclusion that your former opinion was largely a baseless reflexive young-cat affectation

More like motorcycle accidents

xpost

Whiney, aren't you like 25?

naw man whiney is like OLD, like no-longer-trustable old iirc

All 66 year olds are senile fascists when you're 25 obviously

reflexive young-cat affectation

haha, have you heard the saying "I'm too old a cat to be fucked by a kitten like you?"

like I'm not saying nothing but his age rhymes with plover benty whine if you know what I'm sayin

Faculties already beginning to fail then

anyway my dad, who is 70, has seemingly become more liberal as he's gotten older (although what's really happened is that the Republicans went batshit crazy on him to the point where his normal "I vote on business issues" stance couldn't justify voting for candidates he found intellectually vacant and/or socially reprehensible)

^the deej "people I know" of politics

Yeah Dan stop invoking strawman people who don't exist.

Well, she's just doing it wrong then.

Wait till her friends find out about the fag with the whip who danced in front of her in '67.

Peace, love, bull!

She knows about this thread, doesn't she?

Interesting interview though.

heh while i obv disagree with the thrust of her diatribe, that's actually one of the more cogent, thoughtful tea party memos i've read/ heard (i would like to see some of the specifics wrt 1" fish, turtle tunnels, etc). maybe mo should run for office.

:-/

I'm not quite sure that you have to agree with a musician's politics in order to enjoy that musician's music. Is it really that big a deal that she holds political views different than yours? Does anybody posting hear know what Ringo Starr's political affiliation is?

peace and love, peace and love

It's a small step through a turtle tunnel to an octopus' garden.

Morbz Tucker

Ah, now that's low.

I mean, he might be 66-years-old, but he's not a tea partier.

I'm not quite sure that you have to agree with a musician's politics in order to enjoy that musician's music

Is anyone saying you have to? One thing that has annoyed me about some responses to this story is the idea that either you're some weird hardliner who throws away your VU records because you don't like the drummer's politics or you shouldn't care at all. Surely there's a huge middleground of disappointment/discomfort that is interesting to explore.

xpost -- Haha I meant more like "Disappointment with the Obama administration, now who does that remind me of..."

I'm stunned that so many people who call themselves liberal yet are completely intolerant.

ALSO THEY ARE THE REAL RACISTS AMIRITE?

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/10/moe_tucker_interview_2010_politics_tea_party_velvet_underground_video.php?page=2

oops that's page 2

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/10/moe_tucker_interview_2010_politics_tea_party_velvet_underground_video.php

she's right, bugs are to be feared

Are you still involved in Tea Party activities?

___________________________________

I do my own protesting via email and postcards

she should take her protests where they'll have a real impact: on message boards.

"DEAR INTERNET:"

Mo would bring some pizazz to the US politics thread, & it would be tough to sb her.

that's actually one of the more cogent, thoughtful tea party memos i've read

except for it being incorrect in all points of fact, of course.

i wonder if she stands up when she posts on the internet

except for it being incorrect in all points of fact, of course.

yeah, I can't speak to any of the claims she makes (salamanders, donkey museums, etc) but the rest of it is just a matter of rhetoric and degrees i suppose. (e.g. the govt "taking over" the auto industry etc.)

my biggest issue is this: "I started listening to what Obama was promising"

ok really? what did Obama say during the election that made you think he wasn't actually going to push for all the super magical things he's attempted (health care, financial reform, school loans, etc)? if anything he's been forced or spooked into scaling back. now to be fair, maybe Moe wasn't too thrilled from the moment an Obama admin became a viable prospect. but it's just something i've heard a lot of from people (moderates) who voted for him. which prob doesn;t include Ms. Tucker so i shut up now.

Her list is kind of astonishing as a compendium of talking points and canards she heard on Fox News - there's no distinction between justifiable concerns, petty complaints and bizarre phobias. As an insight into the garbled thinking of a Tea Partier it's fascinating.

Can't believe a drummer out of a band wd have different political opinions to me tbh

Is anyone saying that at this point in the thread? I don't think so.

Pretty sure that's all the recent portion of this and the other Mo T threads say but hey ho

Dorianlynsky's favorite response on this thread is to simply say "Is anybody saying that on this thread". A phenomenal debate technique.

Her list is kind of astonishing as a compendium of talking points and canards she heard on Fox News - there's no distinction between justifiable concerns, petty complaints and bizarre phobias. As an insight into the garbled thinking of a Tea Partier it's fascinating.

― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:40 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Is anybody saying that on this thread?

Is anybody saying that on this thread?

...maybe?

Ha, OK, obviously I haven't managed to make the distinction I was trying to make. To try again: I think you can discuss this, and be interested in what Moe's words reveal about how someone can end up aligning themselves with the Tea Party without perceiving themselves as right-wing, without it having anything to do with your enjoyment of that person's music - the VU didn't even cross my mind while I was reading this latest interview. I'm interested in this as a case study in Tea Party thinking so I find her language revealing. That's all. But I'll leave this thread to Bill Magill and his phenomenal "being a prick" debating technique.

The working at Wal-Mart definitely influenced her anti-union stances. As a Wal-Mart employee, you're practically expected to NAME NAMES anytime the dreaded u-word comes up.

You'd think that being an employee of Wal-Mart would eventually make you pro-union.

Stockholm Syndrome

Stockroom Syndrome

I'm Stocking With You

Venus in Stockings

Andy's Check-out

The Black Angel's Debt Song

What Goes On (Markdown)

I Heard Her Call My Name on the Store Intercom

^^ lol

sounds like X-Ray Spex

It's a small step through a turtle tunnel to an octopus' garden.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 17:13 (1 week ago)

love this

"Sundazed to issue a 2cd, 3lp best of Moe in September. The set will include some hard to find tracks as well as one previously unissued beauty."
should be good!