"If I don't need any more, why's this bus taking me back again?"
Tarantula is the album that needs to be disposed on. Not a single good track on it. (I have mellowed towards Carnival Of Wife. Even at its worst, it still manages to sound like The Church as much as Led Zeppelin.)
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:08 (twenty years ago) link
― neil, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:12 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.atomicduster.com/interviews/markgardener09_01/markgardener2.jpg
Erm, you know, I mean that was only in England that people talked about a 'shoe-gazing' scene. The scientific explanation for that was we used to buy all these stupid guitar pedals, that we'd have on the floor and with the given light we were dancing around on these guitar pedals, in the chaos, trying to find them, that was the reason we were looking down.
Truer words were never spoke...
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link
PS from http://www.ticket2ride.it/welcome.htm
The band has announced that the long time planned BBC session anthology will see the light of the day later this year.
"Waves", this is the name of the compilation, will be released in the UK by Ignition Records next July 21st while the band is currently working on securing a release worldwide for the Autumn.
― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:23 (twenty years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:25 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.ticket2ride.it/
and click on images and then drawings. Ugh, it makes me wince to think that I used to once consider myself an illustrator. :-(
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link
Or perhaps I just had one stock background for "Oxford"
Exhibit A:
http://www.ticket2ride.it/imgs/picgal/drawings/kmark.jpg
Exhibit B:
http://freespace.virgin.net/slampiece.inc/4/images/cover4.jpg
Oh dear.
Charlie No.4 *INSISTS* on singing the words to Coldplay's Yellow along with OX4. When this occurs, I usually punch him if he is within arm's reach.
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:43 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 09:59 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:22 (twenty years ago) link
but hmmm, can't decide between Twisterella and Vapour trail
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:26 (twenty years ago) link
By which I presume you mean you can't get to a P2P site? If so, try
http://www.ticket2ride.it
click on sounds, and dig a complete DAT-audience concert from '92.
― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:35 (twenty years ago) link
doesn't one of them work in a b+q somewhere ?
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:37 (twenty years ago) link
Think of it as a tribute, as Ride's version came first (although I can also make a case for the Monkees' influence).
― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:41 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:42 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:55 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:58 (twenty years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:03 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:05 (twenty years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:07 (twenty years ago) link
It's such a shame that he lost it all, though...
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link
::please god, please god, please god::
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:02 (twenty years ago) link
It's funny cause Andy Bell was my favourite one out of Ride for a long time. Joining Oasis put a stop to all that.
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:03 (twenty years ago) link
― doom-e, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:06 (twenty years ago) link
from http://nightshift.oxfordmusic.net/0403/news-pg2.html
April 03
Mark Gardener played his first live show in over two years last month and was joined by former Ride bandmates Andy Bell and Loz Colbert towards the end of the gig for a short set of old Ride songs. Mark was playing at Truck Records' regular Trailerpark club night at the Cellar as a warm-up to a string of American and Canadian dates later in the month. It was his first foray into the live arena since the demise of The Animalhouse and showcased a number of new songs he has written for a solo album. In front of a full house, including many die-hard Ride fans, Mark started his et with three new songs, `What You Get', `Beautiful Ghosts' and `Turn', as well as a solo version of Ride classic `From Time To Time'. Then he was joined by Robin and Joe Bennett from Goldrush for a version of his debut solo single, `Magdalen Sky', originally released on Shifty Disco 1997. With his band then swelled by other members of Goldrush, Mark played a cover of The Band's `Makes No Difference' as well as two more new songs, `To Get Me Through' and `Snow In Mexico'.
Until they were spotted in the crowd though, no-one suspected that Andy and Loz would be joining Mark on stage. Indeed Andy, now the bass player for Oasis, was only in Oxford by accident that night, after mix-up with his own gig dates. He sang `Vapour Trail' with Mark playing guitar and Loz on drums before Mark returned to lead vocal duties for `Dreams Burn Down' and `In A Different Place', with Andy on guitar.
Ride previously reunited briefly at the end of 2001 - with bass player Steve Queralt - for a one-off studio session as part of a tribute to Sonic Youth for Channel 4.
― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:08 (twenty years ago) link
those fuckers. those fucking fuckers. ::QUAKES WITH ANGER AND ENVY::
I hate Truck even more now, with fucking nameless revulsion and jealousy and OH I HATE THEM I HATE THEM SO MUCH, THOSE FUCKING WORTHLESS FUCKERS GET A RIDE REUNION
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH.
This makes me so angry I can't even speak.
:-(
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:12 (twenty years ago) link
:-(((((((((((((
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:13 (twenty years ago) link
Anything released after the "Twisterella" single doesn't exist. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
― doom-e, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link
Carnival of Light was boring dadrock.
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link
::we now return you to your regularly scheduled vitriolic outburst of hatred::
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link
POO of both albums seems impossible. Carnival is probably the easiest: 'Only Now'. The melancholy!GBA: 'Twisterella'? 'Chrome Waves'? 'OX4'? 'Leave Them All Behind'? Don't know...
― Crispijn, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:09 (twenty years ago) link
And I'm so downloading that live gig when I get home.
― James, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
I gots no axe to grind with "Carnival of Light," of which I dig portions, and I happen to think "Black Nite Crash" is acceptable fake-Stooges...
― M Specktor (M Specktor), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link
I remember liking Ride during their heyday but I couldn't tell you what a single song of theirs sounds like.
― HI DERE, Saturday, 14 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Loud and fuzzy and sugary. A compliment.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
so many people are so wrong about GBA :(
― Just got offed, Saturday, 14 July 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Please email me if you know how to get hold of shows from them from 1991
I had (and probably still have, somewhere) bootleg cassettes of: a) a gig I went to at the Town & Country, Kentish Town, October 1990 b) some VERY early stuff of theirs, possibly their first gigs, at the Jericho Tavern, Oxford, circa late 88 / early 89 c) some gig somewhere up north (maybe Leeds?) in 1991 (I think this was shortly before they supported The Pixies at Crystal Palace, so maybe May or June 91) which featured Leave Them All Behind for the first time I've also got a bootleg video thing which included a gig at ULU early in 1990 (probably around the time the Play EP came out because there were loads of daffodils), and another gig I went to in Kilburn in March 1991, and their Reading performance from 1990, and various bits off minority TV channels (including an excellent version of Seagull).
I haven't listened to / watched these for a very long time. If I can ever be bothered to find them again (I think they're somewhere at my parents' house), and to get the technology to put them on the web, I'll let you know.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah well, in a way you're too late. I finally gave in and sent a letter to my mother this morning telling her I'd pay $60 for each Ride cassette she found in my room and could send me. This was not an easy thing to do for me cause I don't speak to her anymore, but when I realized the last time I'd drafted a similar letter to her asking for Ride stuff was almost exactly a year ago in July of 2006, I figured it was time to go ahead and bite the bullet and send a goddamn letter already, family problems be damned. I tried Bit Torrents and they got me nowhere (pun intended I suppose). I also had a VHS bootleg cassette of them doing an early gig I think at Jericho Tavern pre-1990. I asked her to find and send that as well. I'd have to get it transferred to NTSC format, though. It was funny because at the time I bought it I knew I'd only be able to watch it a few times on friends' PAL VHS machines and that once I left Europe, I wouldn't be able to watch it again.
I can't force you to make the effort to find your stuff, Nasty, you must decide if you want to do that on your own, but to hear the first time of them performing Leave Them All Behind would be especially appreciated.
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link
The Ride Town and Country 91 gig is currently up here.
― wmlynch, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh and there's a 1992 concert from Milan online here. They open with Leave Them all Behind. This thread makes me want to dig out the early eps. Such brilliant stuff. I was totally heartbroken when I put on Carnival of Light for the first time and it bored me to tears. I still haven't heard Tarantula.
― wmlynch, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I know, and that's wonderful, but I already have that T&C gig from s!sk. What I'm hoping for is the Pukkelpop festival in Belgium, 1991. Sonic Youth made a whole film out of that festival that featured them and Nirvana and the lack of accompanying footage in that film by Ride from the same festival keeps me up at night. Fuck the goddamn American bands with their disgusting Nirvana & Dinosaur JR! Where is the freaking Ride footage??? And I'm also hoping for a recording of some other southern England gig they did that year that I can't remember now where it was. Was it not the Reading Festival, 1991? Did they not play some festival in England in the summer of 1991? Maybe it wasn't Reading, but some other festival.
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
But every Ride fan knows, in the depths of their heart...that Grasshopper is king. A biased Bimble opinion I know, but still true. The pinnacle of Ride is Grasshopper.
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link
the cover of "European Son" off a VU tribute
― milo z, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw Ride live some time in what mustve been 1992 just after I moved down to Melbourne, they were fantastic. And then too they opened with LTAB. Which is a great song. They did "Dreams Burn Down" at this gig too OMG blew me away.
― Trayce, Sunday, 15 July 2007 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Must dig out the European Son version. Not sure if I know that one, actually. The tribute LP I had that featured Ride was them doing Eight Miles High if I recall correctly. I wonder if I still have that...*goes drunkenly to boxes of vinyl*
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually I do still have it, it's called Through The Looking Glass, this compilation on Imaginary Records, as I suspected. But I don't think I know their version of European Son YET, I'm sad to say.
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
taste
― Zeno, Sunday, 15 July 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
A person could play air drums very, very fast to "Perfect Time" now couldn't they?
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link
And I'm also hoping for a recording of some other southern England gig they did that year that I can't remember now where it was. Was it not the Reading Festival, 1991? Did they not play some festival in England in the summer of 1991? Maybe it wasn't Reading, but some other festival.
I know what you're talking about, but I don't know all the details because I was inter-railing around Europe when it happened. It wasn't the Reading festival: they did that in 1990. It was their own mini-festival (which they headlined, obviously) in either late July or early August 1991. I think it was in Slough (so not far from Reading). I'm pretty sure Slowdive were on the bill too, but I've got no idea who the others were (although I've got a feeling there was a 4th-generation copycat band called Revolver who might have been there).
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 15 July 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Looks like you are right it was Slough. I recall Slowdive on the bill as well. There was some reason I had to miss that show, can't recall why now.
http://www.space-trash.co.uk/ride/
Hearing European Son now it sounds very familiar. I must have had it on cassette or something.
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's another really helpful site with setlists:
http://homepage.mac.com/aaront/ride/old/ride/live.html
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link
BLACK NITE CRASH was great off trantula! what are you talking about? GREAT fuckin song.
― pisces, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard from the usual friend of friend who knows someone etc etc that they're planning to get back together for a wee while again, they were supposed to play the last night of the Zodiac apparently, but "couldn't be arsed"
― Porkpie, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm with Zeno: Taste.
― Bill in Chicago, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, well, it's Andy's involvement with Oasis that always ruins any real reunion plans, innit? Yet one more reason to hate Oasis...it's weird. I don't really hate Oasis but I also do hate them.
― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Pisces is right! "Black Night Crash" is the shit!!!!
― Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Holy crap, that made me feel like I was in the 60's literally.
― Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link
'vapour trail', by a billion miles.
― haitch, Monday, 16 July 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Sure, we should have a poll of Ride songs and Vapour Trail would win. Not undeservedly.
― Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link
re: live b00tlegs (upthread) - Bimble, I've managed to track down my dusty old cassettes. I've got the first gig at The Jericho Tavern (Jan 89) and three other Oxford gigs from 1989 plus Town & Country gig from 28 October 1990. I was wrong about this: some gig somewhere up north (maybe Leeds?) in 1991 (I think this was shortly before they supported The Pixies at Crystal Palace, so maybe May or June 91) which featured Leave Them All Behind for the first time . It's actually a gig at Leeds Poly from July 91 which was the warm up for the Slough Festival. It has got LTAB on it, but isn't the first time they played it. A lot of it is very low quality, but I'll upl0ad bits and pieces. Here's a couple of tracks taped off the radio from the Brits at Wembley Arena in Jan 91 (link only valid for a week): Chelsea Girl Seagull (a few seconds missing from the second one when I had to turn the tape over!)
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Ride played the Brits? That seems unlikely.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 August 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
It happened, kind of. I think the Brits had become seen as stale and out of touch, endlessly giving awards to tedious Phil Collins / Eurythmics / Tina Turner / Elton John / Eric Clapton types, and there was the embarrassing nightmare when it was hosted by Sam Fox and that bloke from Fleetwood Mac, so there was a bit of a push to try and make it more credible. If memory serves me right, Jonathon King was behind this (so obviously it didn't become much more credible). They had a night (or possibly two nights) at Wembley Arena where a whole series of acts played very short gigs (just time for four or five songs each). These acts were supposed to be a bit more 'happening'. Apart from Ride, I'm pretty sure they had the Wedding Present and Carter USM. Possibly The Cure. I've got a feeling Billy Bragg was there. Unless I'm getting mixed up with something else there was Lisa Stansfield going "say no to war in the Gulf!" which got censored by the BBC. All of this was broadcast live (or nearly live) on Radio 1. The actual Brits Award TV programme was few days later, though, and didn't show much of the gig. Ride were reduced to about five seconds of Chelsea Girl, I think.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Glad to hear *your* tapes have turned up, Nasty, for my letter to my mother has gone unanswered, though I've gotten over the disappointment of this. Thanks for the links and the effort. I will give them a go.
When indeed WAS the first time they played LTAB? As far as the website I posted above's best guess it was June 8, 1991 at London Crystal Palace. I had been under the impression it was a mere gig or two before I saw them at Pukkelpop but then, these were the days before the internet and all I knew was what I'd read in the NME or whatever.
― Bimble, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
My vote goes to "Nowhere" the song.
― stephen, Friday, 24 August 2007 08:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's some more stuff. Gig at Town & Country, Kentish Town from 28 October 1990. Part One: Polar Bear, Chelsea Girl, Here and Now As before, only valid for a week, rest of the gig to follow later...
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 15 September 2007 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah the BRITS 1991 gig happened, i was there. disconcertingly i rather enjoyed The Wedding Present that night.
i'd like to bang on about Ride big time but whenever i do that about 1990's bands i feel like Homer that time, going on about Grand Funk Railroad when the kids are in the back of the car.
― pisces, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link
"We think feedback's neat, we're staring at our feet" We're a shoegazing band"
― Cunga, Sunday, 16 September 2007 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I enjoyed that, thanks. It's a long time since I heard anyone rhyme fly/sky/high/made her cry.
Whenever I listen to Ride these days it's only the drums I hear. It annoys me that Loz has spent the last eleven years tapping on a chest of drawers in his room or wherever, instead of being the gun-for-hire amongst sessioneers. The Rolling Stones should've ditched Charlie and got Loz in instead.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 17 September 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I agree, Loz cannot be praised enough. But didn't he join some other band recently that I can't remember now? Someone said...didn't Colonel Poo say he played with Jesus & Mary Chain when they reunited?
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's the rest of that gig: Part Two = Dreams Burn Down, Perfect Time, Paralysed Part Three = Vapour Trail Part Four = Drive Blind, Taste, Nowhere, Decay (in reality I think they did Seagull as an encore, but the tape ran out before that)
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 17 September 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Good lord in heaven, Nasty. So many goodies! I'm not sure I deserve this, but thanks.
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Vapour Trail is so , so good.
I was too busy with the Azzerrad type bands at the time and fell for the shoey scene that celebrates and missed Ride 'part from 'Leave them all behind'. And missed Swervedriver too you jour no cunts. My bullshit detector well off
the drummer is such a fucking tease.
Excellent stuff
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
What I'm trying to say is that I fell for the NME's description at the time and avoided most of that music.
FFs , it was only 67 years ago
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
When the drums kick in on "vapour trail", oh man. love how the drums sound all over that album
― river, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
Alan Moulder rules so hard
― river, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
he really does
― Z S, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
I have managed to completely wear out Vapour Trail, I'm all about Sennen these days.
Seeing that ACPG movie made me dig out all these records - oh and Swervedriver too - love them so much, it's all about the drums.
Though I won't say how weird it was seeing Mark Gardener and Gaz Supergrass sitting next to each other on the panel both insisting "no, really, we're not the same person, we're both here!"
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
oh HELLO
ttp://theseconddisc.com/2012/04/25/going-blank-again-again-ride-to-reissue-sophomore-album-with-bonus-live-film/#more-12973
― piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
sorry try this
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2012/04/20/ride-going-blank-again-reissue/
― piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Love this stuff but bonus DVDs do nothing for me. Now, if they included a digital download for the live gig too...
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link