Who remembers Sheffield band Hula? Were they visionary?

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I have three of their albums. I was a Hula freak for a while back there. Then, biarrely, I totally forgot about them. They always had a bit of funky stuff going on in their music though, didn't they?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i remember doomy/moody dub-type timbral manipulation and echo, delay, pre-sample "tapes" effects, disembodied, a "serious issues" act

they sounded a bit like the cabs at their breaking out with new synths phase -- and like the cabs, it meant the music sounded like other music from other bands (this was the first time, circa "The Crackdown", that the cabs had sounded like any other band on earth -- a pity, i liked it when they sounded like nothing else at all, as if they were from mars)

but Hula didn't really sound like a dub band in attitude (no happy cruisy doobie music) or rhthmic/"samples" character, but the sounds they were using were the sounds deep echo dub system bands would use i guess

they ran a "we're spooky/spooked" vibe
is Sheffield bleak ? or is the industrial music just coincidence ?

(i have one of their lps still, will dig it up and present opinions in due course)

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

That sounds like a good description to me. It was back in the days when band members were still credited with 'tape manipulation'. They go along with Section 25, Test Department, 23 Skidoo and that lot. A bit of Throbbing Gristle too meaybe, and definitely a lot of early Cabs. Sheffield is the UK's answer to Detroit. To be extremely glib.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 02:21 (twenty years ago) link

walking on something splinters i used to like, i think.

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

like cabaret voltaire - i always thought hula were a bit hit and miss. whenthey were good they were very good, and when they were crap they were really crap. actually, a bit like most bands. d'oh.

they did have that dreaded funk thing going for them. they were better live than on record, possibly due to the wrong producers getting them in the studio.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 06:05 (twenty years ago) link

i have a mixed album of live and studio on vinyl ('1000 Hours' ??) that i haven't heard in years. unfort i bought my hula stuff on cassette and subsequently they are f*kd. shame cos there were some ace stuff hidden in the madness.
and yes i loved all that sheffield thing ... Chakk and shriekback were all doing the same groovy thing at the time ..
though the chakk lp did not meet expectations following their superb overlong 12" singles .. nice to see shriekback getting some kudos at last though .. even mojo giving them a column in new issue ..
and having heard newly recorded stuff i can say that thye are still as fine now as they were at the time of jam science/oil and gold... anyway back to hula .. yup i loved em for about 6 months ..
onwards .. m.e

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

twenty years pass...

maybe not quite the right thread but does anyone know anything about Nort? picked up 'Games of Dance' this morning from a carboot and i'm really liking it. really great funky industrial stuff from Sheffield with shoutouts to Hula and Chakk and FON etc on the sleeve. only one video up on Youtube and it isn't really that representative of the album as a whole (still good though!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGY2v3TX4bE

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:12 (six months ago) link

oh wait, i just answered my own question via discogs - he was actually a member of Hula so maybe this is the right thread after all! was also on the Cabs 'Pressure Company' record. anyhow, cool stuff indeed. a lot more fun than the Hula stuff i have iirc, but i haven't listened to that for a loooooong long time so who knows?

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:16 (six months ago) link

https://www.discogs.com/master/265065-Nort-Games-Of-Dance-Muscleblood

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:16 (six months ago) link

what else is good on the Ediesta label??

https://www.discogs.com/label/11180-Ediesta-Records

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:23 (six months ago) link

I like Eton Crop. also have a Friends Of The Family 7" on that label. that Union Carbide Productions LP is good too.

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:46 (six months ago) link

pretty sure i saw UCP live once, a great and fierce sort of Stooge-ly racket iirc

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:50 (six months ago) link

re Hula, I've only heard Murmur but I quite liked that one

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:51 (six months ago) link

wiki says the main Union Carbide guys originally met at a UK Subs gig, right up your alley that CP!

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 10:52 (six months ago) link

Several second-hand shop staples of the late 80s in that Ediesta list! Many of them also Peel faves and/or featuring Freddie Wadling of Leather Nun fame. If you're after scabrous instrumental avant-grind I can recommend the Gore album btw.

a man banging his head against several walls at once (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 September 2023 11:17 (six months ago) link

Several second-hand shop staples of the late 80s in that Ediesta list!

lol, that bargepole album was everywhere! still have no idea what it sounds like tho

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 11:21 (six months ago) link

Haha yes, not to mention Buy Off The Bar, Blue For Two and UCP. If it was from continental Europe then no-one in the UK wanted it.

a man banging his head against several walls at once (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 September 2023 11:27 (six months ago) link

i remember taping a Buy Off The Bar peel session, they were okay i think? quite similar to Eton Crop iirc

that Michael Dee album looks really intriguing. it's got John McGeoch on it too, but he's only playing the sax!

NickB, Sunday, 24 September 2023 11:32 (six months ago) link

had a bit of a trawl through some of the Ediesta stuff i was unfamiliar with

Ausweis were decent, very Killing Joke with Jello Biatra-ish vocals, I think I've always previously got them mixed up with Ausgang tbh

Friends Of The Family were pretty good jangle pop, and also the band that turned into Pram

Ganzheit were Bedfordshire's answer to Severed Heads, Brains To The Wall sounds like a great EP, i quite like this C Cat Trance-ish b-side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDxDZAEqxGY

NickB, Monday, 25 September 2023 07:22 (six months ago) link

MDMA on Ediesta morphed into Utah Saints.

i have Nort's Cool On The Loop but probably haven't listned to it since the 80s. Will dig it out.

stirmonster, Monday, 25 September 2023 07:37 (six months ago) link

oh wait so Utah Saints were related to Cassandra Complex? i had no idea

NickB, Monday, 25 September 2023 07:45 (six months ago) link

yup, Jez Willis was in Cassandra Complex.

stirmonster, Monday, 25 September 2023 07:47 (six months ago) link


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