Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

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I absolutely adore this show, though I've only been able to see Sci- Fi episodes and only a handful of them at that due to infernal copyright issues (any channel wishing to broadcast it needs rights to both the episode and the film, thus only about 18 eps have been shown in the UK). So my knowledge of MST3K is very limited, but I'll add my vote to Overdrawn At The Memory Bank and Agent From H.A.R.M. - as for episodes to destroy, I haven't seen any eps that are bad but apparently the KTMA ones weren't that good, so destroy them.

Chris Lyons, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

First, the lowdown. Classic? Oh my, yes.

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Favorite Episode Available on Rihno: I Accuse My Parents or Catalina Caper. Favorite Episode Overall: Alien From L.A.. Favorite Short: The Days of Our Years. Favorite Riff Sequences: The Beau Brummels at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go in Village of the Giants and Fat Linda Rondstadt in The Incredible Melting Man. Favorite Riff: The Albert Goldman/Greil Marcus ref in The Pod People and the "...Massapequa, Massapequa Park, Amityville, Copaigue, Lindenhurst and Babylon. Change at Jamaica for..." line in The Beatniks.

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The fifteen-minute promo they did for Nintendo; the "sandwich" sketch at the end of The Undead; the long string of lesbian jokes in Racket Girls; and, ultimately, the movie, which while v. good, probably should never have been made; and finally, the various asinine copyright issues that pretty much will ensure its limited availability in non-bootleg form to future generations.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

The fifteen-minute promo they did for Nintendo

Herein a mystery -- what is this? Given that they're such gaming addicts I'm not surprised they did it...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I made a boo-boo. It was actually for Playstation Magazine. Riffing was good, as you can imagine, but it was genuinely painful to watch them hawk stuff. Kinda odd that I can't find more info about it.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Any film with Joe Don Baker or John Phillip Law is an absolute classic.

But if I'm being honest, I love nearly every one. The only one I think I would destroy is Hamlet, because the adaptation was so static and dull it was hard to make jokes from.

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Ned should definitely make me some tapes. The ones on sci-fi I see all the time, but I miss the old episodes.

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Arrangements can be made. I need to get a second VCR for dubbing purposes first, though...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

And yes, I did forget Space Mutiny, didn't I? "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Additional Commentary

I brought the subject up because I think it's high time we discussed it at length. A lot of Americans on ILx are pretty vocal about their MST3K-love, but for obvious reasons, much of the UK posse have never even seen the show. Those who have only know the Sci-Fi era shows (and can't get Rhino tapes, either), so they're only getting part of the fun.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Comedy-Central purist at all. The primary reason I got slowly peeved at the AOL NY MST3K contingent was because they were by and large vehemently Anti-Mike, going on and on about how the show was a bunch of boring crap now and how cute and sexy Joel was. I just couldn't see it. Admittedly, though, by the time MST3K left CC, the show's early, woozy charm had long faded away -- but it was replaced by something else that, while slick, was still awfully entertaining. (Charm isn't everything.) At the other end of the history spectrum, the KTMAs aren't bad at all, but all woozy charm and few laffs. Still, that won't matter if you're already a fan.

The worst movie they ever did was, easily, Monster A Go-Go. Scroungily overamped "What'd I Say"-rip at the beginning, but looooong stretches of black & white nothingness punctuated by perhaps the most infuriating cinematic anticlimax ever. Next in line is Manos: The Hands of Fate. It's my impression that MST3K almost single-handedly velcroed this flick onto the Canon of Bad Movies, and that's a good thing, because it's a startling artifact with a great story behind it.

Favorite Sci-Fi-era Episode: Jack Frost. Indeed, every episode involving a children's movie is sterling.

Best Acting in a MST3K Episode: Beverly Garland reads the riot act to The Celery From Outer Space in It Conquered The World. Bela Lugosi tells a fellow scientist off in Bride of the Monster.

Crow vs. Crow: Trace-Crow is more neurotic, Bill-Crow is more snide, yet once Bill got in the groove, I seriously think they were in equal in goodness.

Joel vs. Mike:

Extraneous thought: if in some alternative universe Catalina Caper was a good, no, GREAT movie, the Avalanches' album would be its soundtrack. Perhaps we could kindly suggest to Tim Burton a remake...

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

it's a startling artifact with a great story behind it.

I was going to throw in a link to the article with all the info, but dammit, it's expired! Your vision of a new Catalina Caper thrills and disturbs my soul.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Although I should at least throw in a link to the more or less official fan site, the Satellite News.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

The Manos article is here.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

That's one of the reasons I could never get into any of the MST3K fan discussions/forums online, they all seem to suffer from this irrational hatred of Mike. It's so silly and pedantic. What's so wrong with liking Joel and Mike?

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Why do you say the movie should not have been made, Mike?

Josh, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

For one, the movie didn't make any money, partly because Gramercy concentrated its promotional efforts on the Pamela Anderson vehicle Barb-Wire, which ended up belly-flopping anyway. Plus, I got this impression from some recent interview with a member of Best Brains (can't remember where I saw this) that they all ended up regretting ever making the thing in the first place. The whole process was too arduous and distracting and they had to deal with all the asshole suits who prided themselves on having a certain level of hepness, yet told BB to take out a joke about Bootsy Collins because they didn't know who was.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

The other weird indulgence of the AOL MSTies was the tongue-lashing Sampo, a.k.a. Chris Cornell (the mst3kinfo.com guy, not the Soundgarden guy), recieved on a regular basis. People seemed real irritated at the fact that he assumed the role of King of All MSTies rather quickly, and I attribute that to minor professional jealousy and peevishness over his pro-Mike stance, all caught in a spiral of ever-amplifying regicidal loathing that you often see online. (Sampo's sometime pomposity didn't help either.) Pettiness a go-go.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

dude, fuck all that. after joel left the show totally went to shit. joel really wanted to create a feeling with story /characters and consistancy. mike was just a hired writer. i think i read someone saying in another thread "after a while if felt like the ones running the show just didnt get 'it' "

chaki, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

As so many of us are such pynchon junkies, here's a great mst3k & pynchon link.

i is brit and loving the mst3k. it can grate if you're not in the right mood, but fuck that for a game of toy soldiers. I also liked the film (riffing on This Island Earth -- fave bit is when the alien is explaining about the fate of his planet "a-huh, yeah, yup... got ya... a-huh"

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

In point of fact, Mike wasn't merely a "hired writer": as early as the second season, he was the Head Writer. Since MST3K was always a group effort, I think it's difficult to pinpoint one person who was responsible for any particular characteristic of the show. (Two obvious exceptions, of course, are the whole Gizmonics Institute business and the idea for the Invention Exchange.) So he may share some responsibility with Joel H. for creating the rather paternal relationship between Joel R. & the 'bots -- a relationship which, for obvious reasons, would be altered once Mike replaced Joel R. the SOL.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

The funniest episode of MST3K I've ever seen is a Gammora movie that we watched on KTMA backstage during a high school show choir competition. I can't remember the name of the movie, but the bad monster was a giant gumball machine and the episode contained one of my favorite riffs ever (7-YEAR-OLD GIRL: I love you, Gamora! CROW: Keep your shirt on, honey.). Most of the others I've seen have come from the Sci-Fi years, but "Manos" is definitely classic. I will also put in a vote for "Overdrawn At The Memory Bank" if only because it's fun to watch Raul Julia in something embarrassing, plus "Squirm" and "The Final Sacrifice".

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I loved Overdrawn At The Memory Bank as a child. I believe I still have a video on it somewhere doubling up with Max Headroom.

Pete, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Ah, the AOL MSTie days. Got my first stalker out of that bunch.

Anyway, I adored the show. Was a staunch Mike defender in the Mike v. Joel days, now I'm not so sure. Favorite bit (of all time): "Are You Happy In Your Work?"

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

What the fuck are you doing here, Colin? :)

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Dan -- you saw a KTMA on the air? I envy and worship you, my liege.

Colin -- yeah, I remember you were torgotback@aol.com, but the stalking? No, not that.

The boards also attracted a number of true mental cases, most unforgettably KeijiKJ. He was similar to Gondola Blob in that he indulged in casebook net.kook behavior: delusions of professionalism, snottily dismissive of any random thing, threw around the word "clique" a lot. I've even heard stories that he scared the bejesus out of BB members during the first con. I personally had a thoroughly pointless argument with him about the population of the cities in California.

Concerning Mike, I'll say this: there are quite a few times during the Sci-Fi-era when he seemed to be sending out his performance via Fed Ex. Sad, because it was clear after CC he was capable of much better. But you know, a lot of the Sci-Fi-era episodes that initially seemed kinda minor and kinda eh to me now strike me as being thoroughly solid.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

That was my first exposure to MST3K. I had no idea that it was going to become so huge; I only thought that snarky Minnesotans would find it funny!

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Well, you're lucky and we hate you. There. ;-)

I'm waiting on Mike's next collection of essays and novel myself. The Megacheese collection was a scream.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Michael: With you and Dave R. here, it was simply a matter of time.

Stalking resulted from an unfortunate IRL encounter with a nice enough person. I thought it was a lovely afternoon, she thought it was TRUE LOVE FOREVER. Eek. The story resolved harmlessly enough -- she found TRUE LOVE FOREVER again with another MSTie, and this time it was returned.

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

What the hell do I have to do with anything, Mr. Meeder? I've never seen you before in my life! (Weren't you supposed to get me a job?)

MST3K was never that big a part of my life - I watched it sporadically, and I always seemed to be in the wrong state of mind to truly enjoy it. I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

David Raposa, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

DR: I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

But wasn't Mike balder than Joel? I'm confused. No matter. I'm balder than both, and I agree with David.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I'm watching Rocketship X-M right now and it looks as if Joel is balder than Mike. I agree wholeheartedly that BALD(ING) = SEXXXY (my real and imaginary boyfriends are testament to this) but Joel really isn't bald enough to be sexy-bald.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

grr, watch it daddino.

ethan, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Le huh?

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Let me second Ned's Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese rec. Even if you don't like or are not familiar with MST3K it is an extrodinarily funny take on a lot of overblown movies of the 80s and 90s.

Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Had you gotten that job I mentioned, David, you'd have been laid off about five months ago. So I did you a favor by being a hopeless slacker.

I think that my slight preference for Joel has something to do with a sense that the guy's a bit . . . off, where Mike is merely charming and funny.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Merely? I wouldn't go that far, though he certainly projects more immediate affability. But every so often he comes out with something or takes on a role that makes you a bit nervous. Thus, when he wigged out about his old temp job in one episode, and in Time Chasers where he played his drunk angry brother or cousin, I forget which. Sure, it's a role, but he inhabited them rather well. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Sampo once remarked that in interview, one can sense that there's something very dark and private about Mike just percolating below the surface, and that's colored my impression of him ever since. One thing to remember: "I suffer from excruciating headaches that dozens of neurologists have tried unsuccessfully to treat. I think I might be possessed."

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I appreciate the fact that both Mike and Bridget are very private about their home life, but from the sound of it from some of Bridget's comments it's a very happy family, lots of singing and nuttiness and fun with their kids. A good reminder that the show was, after all, just a performance.

But yes, Mike has the angst in there somewhere. He just tempers it very beautifully -- thus his legendary turn as Morrissey.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Fair enough -- Mike probably *is* a churning cauldren of angst. But I think he (and his rage) are probrably more based in reality, where Joel strikes me as more otherworldly. Which I prefer (slightly, only ever so slightly) in humor.

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Oh, about time for a revival (thanks in part to a recent link from Mike D.). Actually, there were a number of episodes I didn't have, mostly from the sixth season, but my Seattle trip has given me the chance to dub a lot of those from Brian's collection, yay me. Plus I finally have Daddy-O and Fugitive Alien, that took long enough!

To add to the book recommendations -- Mike N.'s general essay book Mind Over Matters is another fine read (the TV essay alone is some kinda genius, the mock 19th century novel even more so), while I very much liked Kevin Murphy's A Year at the Movies. Chris Piuma mentioned he felt it was fairly Joe Queenan-like and therefore not as distinct as it could be, but I think it was handled very well and worked as both microstudy of the moviegoing experience and general reflection. Certainly any of the ILF/film-going hounds on this board should consider reading/borrowing a copy, at least. Then there's Mike's new novel Death Rat, which I really need to order next month...

And praise to all the other castmembers doing things and the continual rolling out of more DVDs, though apparently Rhino says they've exhausted what they have the rights to right now and are looking into securing more, hopefully...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

...although a quick check of the SatNews link sez there's some sort of further DVD thing coming out later this year, hm! Good thing to know. Also, anyone in Minneapolis can go to a writing workshop taught by Mary Jo Pehl next month, which I think would be great (I'm an unabashed fan of hers but she seems to really grate for a lot of MSTies...).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

is this ever shown in the UK?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

It may still be on the Sci-Fi Channel UK, but your best bet is to go on S0ulS33k and download entire episodes (which are about 700MB a pop, FWIW).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

I've never come across it here, Mark - but I have never had the Sci-Fi Channel.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

It was certainly on (late night) on the Sci-Fi channel a couple of years ago.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that sounds great, rah Mike! Nicole, I might be able to help with dubbing too though I still need a second VCR, but also please drop me a line about another possible source...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

FYI, Best Brains Inc. has its own little shop with some non-Rhino treasures. I highly recommend "Mr. B's Lost Shorts" which has the hands-down best short, "Mr. B Natural" - you know, the one with the ridiculously perky, questionably-gendered Neverland shill for Conn brass instruments.

"Bad touch."
"Does this mean I like guys now?"
"I feel ill."
"Spanking time!"

http://www.mst3kinfo.com/satnews/catalog/Basement.htm

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

It is a thing of beauty, that particular short. And chilling horror. Yeah, there are two short comps that are on DVD, but neither contain that gem. It's possible this thing Rhino is promising is some sort of basement-clearing compilation of all the various video oddities that have surfaced from Best Brains -- the second Poopie tape (the first is a DVD bonus with Manos, the scrapbook, more shorts like that, etc. But we'll see, I guess! (My other irrational hope is a full-on special edition of the movie...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Keep in mind that the fidelity on these files is sometimes suprisingly good considering the size, and sometimes fairly bad, but even the worst files usually have more than enough detail for a person to get what's going on.

I'm hoping the DVD is a Santa Claus vs. The Martians/Santa Claus double fun pak. It is going to come out late 2003, after all.

Later I may want to say something about MST3K in light of Mark's venting on Zappa, but right now I want to go to Central Park and maybe the Malevich exhibit before it starts raining (again).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

I SERIOUSLY NEED TO BUY SIDEHACKERS. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT SINCE HIGH SCHOOL

goooch....goooch....

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

oh and I watched Crash of the Moons last night, i liked that one a lot

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 November 2013 20:28 (4 months ago) Permalink

Though filmed in Canada, Zombie Nightmare also strikes me as a documentary about Australia. In that those types were there too at that time, I suspect.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 November 2013 21:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

lol yes my hometown was totally like that

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 November 2013 21:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

Zombie Nightmare worth it for, if nothing else, the unintelligible witch-doctor and the Penguin-voiced detective.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 November 2013 23:03 (4 months ago) Permalink

that witch doctor looool

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 November 2013 00:49 (4 months ago) Permalink

MST3K is with absolutely, positively no doubt Minnesota's best cultural export.

― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

p much

gbx, Saturday, 30 November 2013 01:17 (4 months ago) Permalink

is it possible to watch this after the fact??

gbx, Saturday, 30 November 2013 01:18 (4 months ago) Permalink

it doesnt seem like it :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 November 2013 01:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

now I am attempting Wild World of Batwoman

(watching whatever's free on Amazon Prime)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 November 2013 01:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

All but one are on YouTube!

Evan, Saturday, 30 November 2013 05:13 (4 months ago) Permalink

batwoman was almost as torturous to watch even when being riffed

a truly annoying & incomorehensible movie

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 November 2013 05:34 (4 months ago) Permalink

If memory serves, the Turkey Day smorgasbord 2013 was:

Space Mutiny
I Accuse My Parents
Werewolf
Cave Dwellers
The Final Sacrifice
Mitchell

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 November 2013 06:25 (4 months ago) Permalink

Sort of wish some of the Mike episodes had come from seasons 5 and 6 (the show's peak, script-wise). Oh well.

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 November 2013 06:26 (4 months ago) Permalink

Currently watching Zombie Nightmare now why because great.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 November 2013 06:31 (4 months ago) Permalink

Caught almost all of Werewolf, which I hadn't seen before. "Incrodbile!"

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 30 November 2013 06:44 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Santa/Martians as transparent Cold War allegory

http://www.fandor.com/blog/santa-claus-conquers-the-martians-take-one

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2013 16:27 (4 months ago) Permalink

Jeff T. on Twitter sez a whole slew of episodes have been added to Netflix.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:04 (4 months ago) Permalink

MS3TK: The Atomic Brain hot 1993 NR 3.8 new Dec 19 Trace Beaulieu, Kevin Murphy, Jim Mallon, Frank Conniff, Jim Mallon, Joseph V. Mascelli | play queue

MS3TK: The Unearthly hot 1991 NR 3.7 new Dec 19 Joel Hodgson, Trace Beaulieu, Kevin Murphy, Jim Mallon, Joel Hodgson, Boris Petroff | play queue

MST3K: Gamera vs. Barugon 1991 NR 3.7 new Dec 19 Joel Hodgson, Trace Beaulieu, Kevin Murphy, Frank Conniff, Jef Maynard | play queue

MST3K: Mixed-Up Zombies hot 1997 NR 3.7 new Dec 19 Carolyn Brandt, Brett O'Hara, Atlas King, Sharon Walsh, Ray Dennis Steckler 1:27 | play queue

MST3K: Night of the Blood Beast 1996 NR 3.7 new Dec 19 John Baer, Angela Greene, Ed Nelson, Georgianna Carter, Bernard L. Kowalski 3:14 | play queue

MST3K: Warrior of the Lost World hot 1993 NR 3.7 new Dec 19 Robert Ginty, Persis Khambatta, Donald Pleasence, Fred Williamson, David Worth 1:55 | play queue

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:26 (4 months ago) Permalink

The Atomic Brain IS hot!

Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:34 (4 months ago) Permalink

You all do know about http://www.club-mst3k.com/, right?

Evan, Friday, 20 December 2013 17:59 (4 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

God, y'all - Incredible Melting Man! Some blah stretches, but Dr. Ted "I'm DOCTOR TED NELSON!" Nelson is one of the all-time asshole protagonists, and Mike and the bots are just so clearly fed up with the movie from very early on. The OPO riff has to be Crow's anguished "What is HAPPENING!?" during the scene where an elderly couple, never before scene, pulls over in the dead of a very dark night ("Meanwhile, in Limbo...") to search for citrus fruit. But the conveyor belt scene (starting at 4:15 in the clip below) stands up with any one-riff-after-another pile-on in the history of the show.

"If she messes it up this time, she's gone!"

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 03:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Eric H., Friday, 7 March 2014 06:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

ha, speaking of jazzy theme music I almost revived this thread last night to call out the cheery Sergio Mendes ba-dah-bahs in Danger! Death Ray.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 March 2014 14:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

omg

gbx, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

oh god they're going to watch cheesy old nature docs aren't they

gbx, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

if they are on my tv I will be watching

Eric: I know this is Rifftrax news but it seemed important so I hope you'll grant me a pass :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

oh god they're going to watch cheesy old nature docs aren't they

― gbx, Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, I hope so. This is pure gold:

http://www.rifftrax.com/shorts/tale-moose-baby

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 March 2014 01:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

man i want the puppets back tho

reddening, Thursday, 20 March 2014 02:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

No worries. I'm probably the only MSTie that doesn't have any use for Rifftrax.

Eric H., Thursday, 20 March 2014 03:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

part of yr charm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 March 2014 03:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

Nah, I'm with you, Eric!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 March 2014 05:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

I have never heard RiffTrax.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 March 2014 13:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

The one for "Cool As Ice" is a riot.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

I wonder if my lesser interest in RiffTrax has partly to do with it existing in the full-on Internet era (though I boned up on MST through Usenet of course). MST really was digging up forgotten blunders and making something of them, whereas, even if Rifftrax had tried to go for obscure movies, they wouldn't be by the time they got to them. Everybody knows everything, there are no secret junk movies now, and of course discovering the 'secret' was part of the appeal of MST even at the level of knowing that the show existed and was worth watching. Plus the internet made everybody a snarky talk-back critic, and very few people were very good at it.

There's just something crasser and more obvious about the whole procedure now, and I'm not sure it can be salvaged except through a return to its basic form: watching bad movies with a group of friends or quality strangers. There was a group of people in Columbus that organized something like this for years with a backyard, a projector and a sheet (the "Hillbilly Drive-In") and the times that I went it was great, great fun. Watching other people do it - and do it well - is still very appealing to me in MST3k reruns but I haven't seen any other form where it worked.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

the Rifftrax concept seems odd, in that not all the movies they make fun are bad. Why Wrath of Khan? or Starship Troopers? or Jaws? (not to mention Casablanca and the Wizard of Oz)

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

The main draw behind Rifftrax is that it's riffing big budget mainstream movies, quality of the movie nothing to do w the quality of the riff. Also they are only doing the riffs as stand-alone audio files, which changes things entirely, so better to riff movies that everyone already owns on DVD if only for syncing purposes.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 March 2014 18:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

quality of the movie nothing to do w the quality of the riff.

I guess I'd have to watch some of these to be convinced of this point

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 23 March 2014 18:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

surely starship troopers is a film immune to mockery

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Sunday, 23 March 2014 19:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

It is worth trying out Rifftrax on something like Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull, where Mike cannot hide his disdain for everything about the movie.
Also their Twilight riff is A+.

It's a different beast to MST3K, and not for everyone. But I have gotten a kick out of quite a few of them, and I always go to the theater 'live' events when I can.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 March 2014 19:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

For instance, the Lord of the Rings movie got lots of acclaim, plenty of Oscar nods, etc. and yet, it is full of really silly stuff. Plus w the big budget CGI and all the serious faced EPIC drama stuff, it practically cries for someone to take the piss out of it. It makes it so much more fun, too!

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

otm

I went to the riff of The Night of The Living Dead not really sure how well it would work, and even Mike said beforehand 'I'll be honest, I love this movie'...but holy shit I had no idea how much time is spent during the first half of the movie just hammering pieces of wood. It was fun to see it from a different angle than my normal fangirl reverence

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Never thought I would have a new favorite ep but I just saw Future War for the first time this week, and it might edge out Space Mutiny.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:14 (Yesterday) Permalink

"FUTURE WAX!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:17 (Yesterday) Permalink

Haha yes. And the callback to Werewolf nearly made me spit my drink.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:19 (Yesterday) Permalink

You people are all nuts.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:32 (Yesterday) Permalink


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