Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

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I absolutely adore this show, though I've only been able to see Sci- Fi episodes and only a handful of them at that due to infernal copyright issues (any channel wishing to broadcast it needs rights to both the episode and the film, thus only about 18 eps have been shown in the UK). So my knowledge of MST3K is very limited, but I'll add my vote to Overdrawn At The Memory Bank and Agent From H.A.R.M. - as for episodes to destroy, I haven't seen any eps that are bad but apparently the KTMA ones weren't that good, so destroy them.

Chris Lyons, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

First, the lowdown. Classic? Oh my, yes.

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Favorite Episode Available on Rihno: I Accuse My Parents or Catalina Caper. Favorite Episode Overall: Alien From L.A.. Favorite Short: The Days of Our Years. Favorite Riff Sequences: The Beau Brummels at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go in Village of the Giants and Fat Linda Rondstadt in The Incredible Melting Man. Favorite Riff: The Albert Goldman/Greil Marcus ref in The Pod People and the "...Massapequa, Massapequa Park, Amityville, Copaigue, Lindenhurst and Babylon. Change at Jamaica for..." line in The Beatniks.

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The fifteen-minute promo they did for Nintendo; the "sandwich" sketch at the end of The Undead; the long string of lesbian jokes in Racket Girls; and, ultimately, the movie, which while v. good, probably should never have been made; and finally, the various asinine copyright issues that pretty much will ensure its limited availability in non-bootleg form to future generations.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The fifteen-minute promo they did for Nintendo

Herein a mystery -- what is this? Given that they're such gaming addicts I'm not surprised they did it...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I made a boo-boo. It was actually for Playstation Magazine. Riffing was good, as you can imagine, but it was genuinely painful to watch them hawk stuff. Kinda odd that I can't find more info about it.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Any film with Joe Don Baker or John Phillip Law is an absolute classic.

But if I'm being honest, I love nearly every one. The only one I think I would destroy is Hamlet, because the adaptation was so static and dull it was hard to make jokes from.

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Ned should definitely make me some tapes. The ones on sci-fi I see all the time, but I miss the old episodes.

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Arrangements can be made. I need to get a second VCR for dubbing purposes first, though...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And yes, I did forget Space Mutiny, didn't I? "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Additional Commentary

I brought the subject up because I think it's high time we discussed it at length. A lot of Americans on ILx are pretty vocal about their MST3K-love, but for obvious reasons, much of the UK posse have never even seen the show. Those who have only know the Sci-Fi era shows (and can't get Rhino tapes, either), so they're only getting part of the fun.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Comedy-Central purist at all. The primary reason I got slowly peeved at the AOL NY MST3K contingent was because they were by and large vehemently Anti-Mike, going on and on about how the show was a bunch of boring crap now and how cute and sexy Joel was. I just couldn't see it. Admittedly, though, by the time MST3K left CC, the show's early, woozy charm had long faded away -- but it was replaced by something else that, while slick, was still awfully entertaining. (Charm isn't everything.) At the other end of the history spectrum, the KTMAs aren't bad at all, but all woozy charm and few laffs. Still, that won't matter if you're already a fan.

The worst movie they ever did was, easily, Monster A Go-Go. Scroungily overamped "What'd I Say"-rip at the beginning, but looooong stretches of black & white nothingness punctuated by perhaps the most infuriating cinematic anticlimax ever. Next in line is Manos: The Hands of Fate. It's my impression that MST3K almost single-handedly velcroed this flick onto the Canon of Bad Movies, and that's a good thing, because it's a startling artifact with a great story behind it.

Favorite Sci-Fi-era Episode: Jack Frost. Indeed, every episode involving a children's movie is sterling.

Best Acting in a MST3K Episode: Beverly Garland reads the riot act to The Celery From Outer Space in It Conquered The World. Bela Lugosi tells a fellow scientist off in Bride of the Monster.

Crow vs. Crow: Trace-Crow is more neurotic, Bill-Crow is more snide, yet once Bill got in the groove, I seriously think they were in equal in goodness.

Joel vs. Mike:

Extraneous thought: if in some alternative universe Catalina Caper was a good, no, GREAT movie, the Avalanches' album would be its soundtrack. Perhaps we could kindly suggest to Tim Burton a remake...

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it's a startling artifact with a great story behind it.

I was going to throw in a link to the article with all the info, but dammit, it's expired! Your vision of a new Catalina Caper thrills and disturbs my soul.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Although I should at least throw in a link to the more or less official fan site, the Satellite News.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Manos article is here.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That's one of the reasons I could never get into any of the MST3K fan discussions/forums online, they all seem to suffer from this irrational hatred of Mike. It's so silly and pedantic. What's so wrong with liking Joel and Mike?

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Why do you say the movie should not have been made, Mike?

Josh, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

For one, the movie didn't make any money, partly because Gramercy concentrated its promotional efforts on the Pamela Anderson vehicle Barb-Wire, which ended up belly-flopping anyway. Plus, I got this impression from some recent interview with a member of Best Brains (can't remember where I saw this) that they all ended up regretting ever making the thing in the first place. The whole process was too arduous and distracting and they had to deal with all the asshole suits who prided themselves on having a certain level of hepness, yet told BB to take out a joke about Bootsy Collins because they didn't know who was.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The other weird indulgence of the AOL MSTies was the tongue-lashing Sampo, a.k.a. Chris Cornell (the mst3kinfo.com guy, not the Soundgarden guy), recieved on a regular basis. People seemed real irritated at the fact that he assumed the role of King of All MSTies rather quickly, and I attribute that to minor professional jealousy and peevishness over his pro-Mike stance, all caught in a spiral of ever-amplifying regicidal loathing that you often see online. (Sampo's sometime pomposity didn't help either.) Pettiness a go-go.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

dude, fuck all that. after joel left the show totally went to shit. joel really wanted to create a feeling with story /characters and consistancy. mike was just a hired writer. i think i read someone saying in another thread "after a while if felt like the ones running the show just didnt get 'it' "

chaki, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

As so many of us are such pynchon junkies, here's a great mst3k & pynchon link.

i is brit and loving the mst3k. it can grate if you're not in the right mood, but fuck that for a game of toy soldiers. I also liked the film (riffing on This Island Earth -- fave bit is when the alien is explaining about the fate of his planet "a-huh, yeah, yup... got ya... a-huh"

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In point of fact, Mike wasn't merely a "hired writer": as early as the second season, he was the Head Writer. Since MST3K was always a group effort, I think it's difficult to pinpoint one person who was responsible for any particular characteristic of the show. (Two obvious exceptions, of course, are the whole Gizmonics Institute business and the idea for the Invention Exchange.) So he may share some responsibility with Joel H. for creating the rather paternal relationship between Joel R. & the 'bots -- a relationship which, for obvious reasons, would be altered once Mike replaced Joel R. the SOL.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The funniest episode of MST3K I've ever seen is a Gammora movie that we watched on KTMA backstage during a high school show choir competition. I can't remember the name of the movie, but the bad monster was a giant gumball machine and the episode contained one of my favorite riffs ever (7-YEAR-OLD GIRL: I love you, Gamora! CROW: Keep your shirt on, honey.). Most of the others I've seen have come from the Sci-Fi years, but "Manos" is definitely classic. I will also put in a vote for "Overdrawn At The Memory Bank" if only because it's fun to watch Raul Julia in something embarrassing, plus "Squirm" and "The Final Sacrifice".

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I loved Overdrawn At The Memory Bank as a child. I believe I still have a video on it somewhere doubling up with Max Headroom.

Pete, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ah, the AOL MSTie days. Got my first stalker out of that bunch.

Anyway, I adored the show. Was a staunch Mike defender in the Mike v. Joel days, now I'm not so sure. Favorite bit (of all time): "Are You Happy In Your Work?"

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What the fuck are you doing here, Colin? :)

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dan -- you saw a KTMA on the air? I envy and worship you, my liege.

Colin -- yeah, I remember you were torgotback@aol.com, but the stalking? No, not that.

The boards also attracted a number of true mental cases, most unforgettably KeijiKJ. He was similar to Gondola Blob in that he indulged in casebook net.kook behavior: delusions of professionalism, snottily dismissive of any random thing, threw around the word "clique" a lot. I've even heard stories that he scared the bejesus out of BB members during the first con. I personally had a thoroughly pointless argument with him about the population of the cities in California.

Concerning Mike, I'll say this: there are quite a few times during the Sci-Fi-era when he seemed to be sending out his performance via Fed Ex. Sad, because it was clear after CC he was capable of much better. But you know, a lot of the Sci-Fi-era episodes that initially seemed kinda minor and kinda eh to me now strike me as being thoroughly solid.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That was my first exposure to MST3K. I had no idea that it was going to become so huge; I only thought that snarky Minnesotans would find it funny!

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well, you're lucky and we hate you. There. ;-)

I'm waiting on Mike's next collection of essays and novel myself. The Megacheese collection was a scream.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Michael: With you and Dave R. here, it was simply a matter of time.

Stalking resulted from an unfortunate IRL encounter with a nice enough person. I thought it was a lovely afternoon, she thought it was TRUE LOVE FOREVER. Eek. The story resolved harmlessly enough -- she found TRUE LOVE FOREVER again with another MSTie, and this time it was returned.

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What the hell do I have to do with anything, Mr. Meeder? I've never seen you before in my life! (Weren't you supposed to get me a job?)

MST3K was never that big a part of my life - I watched it sporadically, and I always seemed to be in the wrong state of mind to truly enjoy it. I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

David Raposa, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

DR: I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

But wasn't Mike balder than Joel? I'm confused. No matter. I'm balder than both, and I agree with David.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm watching Rocketship X-M right now and it looks as if Joel is balder than Mike. I agree wholeheartedly that BALD(ING) = SEXXXY (my real and imaginary boyfriends are testament to this) but Joel really isn't bald enough to be sexy-bald.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

grr, watch it daddino.

ethan, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Le huh?

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Let me second Ned's Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese rec. Even if you don't like or are not familiar with MST3K it is an extrodinarily funny take on a lot of overblown movies of the 80s and 90s.

Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Had you gotten that job I mentioned, David, you'd have been laid off about five months ago. So I did you a favor by being a hopeless slacker.

I think that my slight preference for Joel has something to do with a sense that the guy's a bit . . . off, where Mike is merely charming and funny.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Merely? I wouldn't go that far, though he certainly projects more immediate affability. But every so often he comes out with something or takes on a role that makes you a bit nervous. Thus, when he wigged out about his old temp job in one episode, and in Time Chasers where he played his drunk angry brother or cousin, I forget which. Sure, it's a role, but he inhabited them rather well. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sampo once remarked that in interview, one can sense that there's something very dark and private about Mike just percolating below the surface, and that's colored my impression of him ever since. One thing to remember: "I suffer from excruciating headaches that dozens of neurologists have tried unsuccessfully to treat. I think I might be possessed."

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I appreciate the fact that both Mike and Bridget are very private about their home life, but from the sound of it from some of Bridget's comments it's a very happy family, lots of singing and nuttiness and fun with their kids. A good reminder that the show was, after all, just a performance.

But yes, Mike has the angst in there somewhere. He just tempers it very beautifully -- thus his legendary turn as Morrissey.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Fair enough -- Mike probably *is* a churning cauldren of angst. But I think he (and his rage) are probrably more based in reality, where Joel strikes me as more otherworldly. Which I prefer (slightly, only ever so slightly) in humor.

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Oh, about time for a revival (thanks in part to a recent link from Mike D.). Actually, there were a number of episodes I didn't have, mostly from the sixth season, but my Seattle trip has given me the chance to dub a lot of those from Brian's collection, yay me. Plus I finally have Daddy-O and Fugitive Alien, that took long enough!

To add to the book recommendations -- Mike N.'s general essay book Mind Over Matters is another fine read (the TV essay alone is some kinda genius, the mock 19th century novel even more so), while I very much liked Kevin Murphy's A Year at the Movies. Chris Piuma mentioned he felt it was fairly Joe Queenan-like and therefore not as distinct as it could be, but I think it was handled very well and worked as both microstudy of the moviegoing experience and general reflection. Certainly any of the ILF/film-going hounds on this board should consider reading/borrowing a copy, at least. Then there's Mike's new novel Death Rat, which I really need to order next month...

And praise to all the other castmembers doing things and the continual rolling out of more DVDs, though apparently Rhino says they've exhausted what they have the rights to right now and are looking into securing more, hopefully...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...although a quick check of the SatNews link sez there's some sort of further DVD thing coming out later this year, hm! Good thing to know. Also, anyone in Minneapolis can go to a writing workshop taught by Mary Jo Pehl next month, which I think would be great (I'm an unabashed fan of hers but she seems to really grate for a lot of MSTies...).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

is this ever shown in the UK?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It may still be on the Sci-Fi Channel UK, but your best bet is to go on S0ulS33k and download entire episodes (which are about 700MB a pop, FWIW).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've never come across it here, Mark - but I have never had the Sci-Fi Channel.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It was certainly on (late night) on the Sci-Fi channel a couple of years ago.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that sounds great, rah Mike! Nicole, I might be able to help with dubbing too though I still need a second VCR, but also please drop me a line about another possible source...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

FYI, Best Brains Inc. has its own little shop with some non-Rhino treasures. I highly recommend "Mr. B's Lost Shorts" which has the hands-down best short, "Mr. B Natural" - you know, the one with the ridiculously perky, questionably-gendered Neverland shill for Conn brass instruments.

"Bad touch."
"Does this mean I like guys now?"
"I feel ill."
"Spanking time!"

http://www.mst3kinfo.com/satnews/catalog/Basement.htm

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It is a thing of beauty, that particular short. And chilling horror. Yeah, there are two short comps that are on DVD, but neither contain that gem. It's possible this thing Rhino is promising is some sort of basement-clearing compilation of all the various video oddities that have surfaced from Best Brains -- the second Poopie tape (the first is a DVD bonus with Manos, the scrapbook, more shorts like that, etc. But we'll see, I guess! (My other irrational hope is a full-on special edition of the movie...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Keep in mind that the fidelity on these files is sometimes suprisingly good considering the size, and sometimes fairly bad, but even the worst files usually have more than enough detail for a person to get what's going on.

I'm hoping the DVD is a Santa Claus vs. The Martians/Santa Claus double fun pak. It is going to come out late 2003, after all.

Later I may want to say something about MST3K in light of Mark's venting on Zappa, but right now I want to go to Central Park and maybe the Malevich exhibit before it starts raining (again).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 16:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I SERIOUSLY NEED TO BUY SIDEHACKERS. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT SINCE HIGH SCHOOL

goooch....goooch....

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The only formally released DVDs I've missed out on (Shout Factory rereleases aside) are Godzilla vs Megalon and the Radar Men From the Moon bonus disc from a few years back. I am rather thankful to have the rest -- just to be sure.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

807 – Terror from the Year 5000

This has one of my favorite lines ever, which nobody else ever remembers: "Hey, it's one of those 'Fly, monkeys, fly!' monkeys!"

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I don't have the space for them all right now, so I just rely on youtube. I know I'm certainly missing out on all the bonus content though...

Evan, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Invasion USA really is a must-see as a glimpse into the period. A Date With Your Family too, and that one's all time, short-wise. High School Big Shot is dire iirc.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:37 (one week ago) Permalink

Very dire but there's a weird/tragic backstory to it -- the lead guy, Tom Pittman, was apparently this up-and-comer in Hollywood (not that his performance really suggests it; can't exactly call him the new James Dean). But then:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Pittman

On October 31, 1958, Pittman was driving home after a Halloween party when he ran his Porsche Spyder off the road at a sharp curve in the Hollywood Hills. After he failed to return home, his father filed a missing persons report. On November 19, Los Angeles police officer, Roy Kerton, retraced the roads Pittman's father said his son liked to drive and found the wreckage at the bottom of a 150-foot ravine. Pittman's car had crashed through the guard rail, landed at the bottom of the ravine where it remained out of sight.

The film itself was released after he was dead.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:46 (one week ago) Permalink

This contemporary story offers more -- including inevitable Dean comparisons:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19581120&id=2uZLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-4sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7140,3871947

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:47 (one week ago) Permalink

Interesting bit here in a review of Sally Kellerman's autobio from a couple of years back:

https://classictvhistory.wordpress.com/tag/tom-pittman/

Television actors Robert Sampson and Luana Anders are major characters in the early chapters, as is Tom Pittman, a promising leading man who did a ton of TV guest shots in the year or two before his body was found at the bottom of a Hollywood canyon in 1958. Kellerman’s account of Pittman’s death, and of her role and that of small-part actor Robert Bice (who played square-jawed cops in tons of TV episodes prior to his own early demise) in its aftermath, are so startling that I’m surprised a major publication hasn’t taken up the subject for further investigation.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:57 (one week ago) Permalink

http://www.tompittmanduo.com/bio.htm

Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Long may his identical twin thrive.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Anyway, new interview with Joel and Jonah:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-st-mystery-science-theatre-3000-returns-20161123-story.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Interesting bit:

Hodgson: The thing that it really reminded me of, and I hadn't thought about this in so long, is how much work it is to be the host on “MST3K.” You're working with two inanimate objects, two robots. You have to do a lot of acting and emoting, not just for you, but for them too. It's a really big job when you think about all the props, and all the stuff that has to happen and Jonah did a really good job just getting in there. There's a lot of physicality to it.

Ray: Our schedule was so tight that we just sprinted into doing the shoots. The show is so relaxed, but the actual process of doing it— my legs were getting sore from how many times I had to freak out because of the movie sign. One thing that was so great was when Joel would come on in between the movie segments. I remember he said, ”When you come onto screen, just blast onto the screen. Burst on like you're in a rock and roll performance." I was also learning how to work props, how to do sleight-of-hand magic on the spot.

Hodgson: If you look at “MST3K,” especially on the “Satellite of Love” set, it's one shot, and we don't cut away. It's really like a live show... There's all these things that people don't know about when you have that gig. It's not easy. I guess I never really thought about it until I had to look at what Jonah had to do, and go through that with him again. I realized how many feelings I had about it that were kind of unresolved. Nobody knows how hard this is except for this guy and Mike.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:13 (one week ago) Permalink

I was actually just thinking about that yesterday when I was watching Cave Dwellers and Joel was doing that foley bit. He messes up some lines and they just keep going cause it's got so many props and is relatively long.

Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:24 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, in general the high number of fuckups contributes a lot to the show's charm, and the fact that they obviously didn't want to constantly reshoot 15-minute chunks of the movie meant that there's a great loose roughness to the riffing itself. Never feels painfully over-rehearsed.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 22:32 (one week ago) Permalink

joel fucking up his lines was like 50% of his appeal

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:29 (one week ago) Permalink

for sure!

Evan, Thursday, 24 November 2016 03:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Okay the marathon is live:

https://youtu.be/JphKSOuaov0

First one: Pumaman!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Meantime the opening bit with Joel and Jonah was...hokey. Which I shouldn't be surprised by, but.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Kneel!

I told you my name is TONY

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:06 (one week ago) Permalink

Everything about this film is such a botch, it's amazing. And the lead guy, dear god. It almost is funnier/worse now after almost two decades of modern superhero movies.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah, Pod People. I will never tire of you.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Aw mannnnn sorry to be missing this, esp. Pod People, which at one point I thought I'd burned out on but has now aged perfectly into an old, familiar friend. Even the really minor riffs are gems: ''Ahhh, gimme that, I'll show you how to use a prop phone!'' ''What Trumpy's done is good!'' ''Meanwhile, in YET ANOTHER movie...'' etc.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:07 (one week ago) Permalink

So many lines still make me laugh. It's easily one of the best from the more languorously paced years.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:02 (one week ago) Permalink

If you're not in the right mood, its slowness can totally defeat you... though things like the ''McCloud!'' gag start to really build around the dull emptiness of the film itself and become deeply deeply hilarious.

''... and after that, we'll be hearing from Bay Area artist Belmondo...''

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:23 (one week ago) Permalink

"and I will be the one to hold Larry Csonka down, kiss him so soft . . ."

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:34 (one week ago) Permalink

i never get tired of the larry csonka jokes in final sacrifice

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:21 (one week ago) Permalink

i love how the henchmen all have slightly different black tank tops

and the hermit who sounds like Doctor Teeth

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:23 (one week ago) Permalink

My my my my Mitchell.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Okay so Manos has to be number one, any guesses on number two? I'm kinda stumped.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Gamera?

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

f.s.v.o. Gamera

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Good guess!

Anyway, Mitchell.

"Cross to fireplace."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56 (one week ago) Permalink

"I usually take mine with a Ding Dong in it but ok"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:09 (one week ago) Permalink

(We've been having dinner and soon dessert here since around noonish so I'm only catching this as catch can but I do appreciate episodes where I can drop in any time and it's hilarious.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Mitchell!

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Ha, Space Mutiny makes so much sense at number two. Framing stuff is totally convoluted as a standalone but the movie itself and the number they do on it is top notch.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:41 (one week ago) Permalink

SANTA

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:41 (one week ago) Permalink

And of course Manos. I've got 'Debbie''s book on order and I can't wait to read it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 November 2016 01:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Trace's Crow works a lot bluer, I am v fond of him

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 November 2016 01:22 (one week ago) Permalink

I think it was this thread that got me to REALLY love ''Big buttery moon up there... sidewalk kinda looks like ice cream if you squint at it.'' But it was my brother who got me to appreciate all the chase scene riffs (''Mitchell II: The Cloverleaf'') and, re: ''this is a police inevstigation!'': ''Oh, really? I thought it was just some slob wandering around my *house.*''

Underrated: the shitty marine conclusion to the film, especially ''Let's rip off the last scene from Key Largo, Mitchell!''

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 November 2016 05:29 (one week ago) Permalink

i love that whole section

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 November 2016 05:48 (one week ago) Permalink

ohhhhh they're chasing the BOAT

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 November 2016 05:48 (one week ago) Permalink


Trace's Crow works a lot bluer, I am v fond of him

Counterpoint:

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Friday, 25 November 2016 15:07 (one week ago) Permalink

3M!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:54 (one week ago) Permalink

What's great is that they also made a 3M joke in Pod People when it came to the "It stinks!" song.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Well, by gum, the bonus things for today Joel announced ARE indeed all that:

On Monday, I also promised that – since we didn't have any new episodes ready to show you on Turkey Day – I'd send a special treat on Friday to make it up to you.

And you know, I know it's a treat some of you have been wanting for a long time – maybe even since we first ran this advertisement in The St. Paul Pioneer Press Dispatch on Turkey Day of 1988, when our very first episode, Invaders From the Deep, premiered on KTMA.

So yeah, some of you already guessed it, but let's make it official:

I'm happy to tell you that we finally found master tapes for two of the three "lost KTMA episodes" of MST3K: Invaders from the Deep, and Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars.

I actually thought we had discovered copies of these episodes at one point during the Kickstarter last year, and I was really excited that I'd be able to finally share them with you… and then it turned out that we hadn't found them, and it was a real bummer. But then, earlier this year, a few final boxes turned up. And there they were: the very first episodes of MST3K ever made.

So yeah: If your Kickstarter rewards include any of the "Classic MST3K Bonus Episodes", the two "lost episodes" are now waiting for you – a special "Happy Turkey Day" present from all of us at MST3K.

I didn't go this route, but presumably these things are going to circulate from here realllll quickly.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:12 (one week ago) Permalink

FWIW, this means that the final episode that has never circulated at all is the original riff on Star Force: Fugitive Alien II, which was the third KTMA episode overall. But presumably it's out there...

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Meantime, word from MST3Kinfo that Tony Zarindast -- the man who gave us <I>Werewolf</I> -- has passed:

http://www.mst3kinfo.com/?p=23507

His IMDB page is worth boggling at thanks to the English language titles alone. A one-man mini-Cannon:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0953494/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:06 (five days ago) Permalink


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