Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

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Seinfelds grate if a bit inconsistent. I love th bizarre situations though like theon Ally just mentioned and the one where George returns the book to the store cos Jerry read it in the toilet. Jerry's taste in clothes and haircuts are vile to say the least but I think thats the whole point. As for Kramers fashion sense...

Michael, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Hmm...perhaps, but I'd prefer to believe Seinfeld is a fool, and his show isn't funny. Now Vids, that's funny.

DG, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Vids-That Welsh bloke is a scream, I swear.

Michael, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

"By the tiny fingers of little baby Jesus, I appear to have discombobulated my Templeton Peck!"

DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I watched that same Seinfeld rerun tonight, how sad are we? It's the best television series ever. Nothing, not even Twin Peaks, Sopranos, South Park, or the A-Team, is in the same league. Larry David is a great, great man. Is that show starring him playing himself still on HBO? That was great too, and the episodes of the Simpsons which he wrote are the only watchable Simpsons. Anyway, Seinfeld offered possibly the greatest depiction of nihilism in any media, ever.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Seinfeld offered the greatest depiction of a man totally out of touch with style ever.

DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Anyone who can get women with clothes like Jerry's is clearly better than the rest of us, so I won't criticize his style. At least he didn't dress like an indie-rocker, like Kramer.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Kramer's look isnt indie-rock. It's more grunge meets 50's bebop.

Michael, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

grunge + '50s bebop = kitsch = shit = indie-rock

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

most dudle to the extrmist - por-man's version of family ties for neo- nascent baby boomers high on verbal diaroeah.

Geoff, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

DUD. Oh look how shallow George is. Oh, look, Elaine is even worse. How surprisingly funny. Oh ha ha. Jerry is driven MAD by a tiny detail and hilarity ensues when he keeps flipping it back out at us throughout the episode in concentric circles of crap so that people will remember it and next day repeat the catch phrases at water coolers in offices and schools and goverment centres all over. That Kramer, he's so funny cause he's not only shallow, he's WACKY. wow. It sucks ass. and I'm in a bad mood....

Kim, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

ok, I'm not. actually.

I've been nagged by the thought that it actually was the real Marilyn Manson that I saw a few weeks ago geekily going to the purolator courier in the Atrium on Bay (snootyish office/shopping complex in downtown T.O.)because that's probably the last place on earth that I would expect such a celebrity sighting to happen, so I dismissed out of hand as an arrestingly casual lookalike in a long black coat, yet then I was thinking that all that nega-evidence adds up to it probably being the real Marilyn. anyway...

Kim, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

What Otis said RE: Jerry's clothes. I mean, listen, his clothes are average joe duds. And he still got the totally hot Shoshanna with them. I mean, hello, maybe you all should be dressing like Jerry Seinfeld.

I love the part in tonight's episode where Kramer is dressed like a pimp. I wish I had a walking stick.

Ally, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Classic. I don't feel like elaborating.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Oh my God, a total dud!!!...It's supposed to be witty, but it's just clever clever and a yawnfest...I would pay Seinfeld not to appear on TV, not that he needs any money, he's loaded...saw him on this programme about the Hamptons, P Diddy is his neighbour or something.

james e l, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

One of the few things I've seen on television that has reduced me to tears of helpless laughter was the episode that featured Elaine's "dancing". In fact, I'm cracking up just thinking about it.

The best was in a later episode where they BROUGHT THE DANCE back. It was only two seconds, but I was practically incontinent.

Anyone who catches the dancing episode on tape for me (NTSC, please) will be my BEST FRIEND 4-EVA.

Dan Perry, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I wish I had a walking stick.

Two nights ago me and Ramon were sitting in a bar thinking about what we could do to make ourselves look more like pimps/rapists, and his first suggestion was we could walk with a limp, but I said fuck that, I've got a barrel (literally) full of canes (I kid you not). So expect the Clockwork Orange look next time you see us, minus the fake eyebrows and makeup and girly shit.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

classic like classic in classic land. classic.

Dave, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Otis, this tendency to morph into Turbonegro that you two have developed is disturbing. You think I wanna be walking around with two guys with sticks? Only if I have a stick too, that's the answer to that.

Ally, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I said I got a barrel of canes, didn't I? There's enough for everyone.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I'm totally bringing my coworkers to the next get together if canes are involved. That's fantastic.

Ally, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

The best was in a later episode where they BROUGHT THE DANCE back. It was only two seconds, but I was practically incontinent.

Hey, I don't think I've seen the reprise. There's a reason to live! Assume everyone has seen the reference at How To Dance Properly

Otherwise, what Mitch said.

Nick, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
Your all lame-o's! Every show of Seinfeld is stoopindis! Sounds like someone's got a case of the "spos-tahs". In my day we all had that shit man. Broklyn baby. No one f'ed with us. My friend Mike downed a could of cold'ns and he thought it would be funny to fuck with a couple of these black guy right. And this stoopis got he ass kicked just like in that one Seinfeld episode.

Any hot chicks out there want to get bisy just let me know. I got it all . They call me "the Mutt" and with all that implies. And that ain't dirt in my eye.

Larry

Larry Mutt, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Remember that scene in THx1138 where Robert Duvall is flipping mindlessly through porno and sitcoms and breezes past this one show where two characters in bland drab sit and discuss something 'witty' among laugh trax? that's kinda what i think of when Seinfeld comes on... Would there be some warning retro-novel being written about us when we're watching mindless jokes about masturbation and 3rd world stereotypes. bada-bing bada-boom... Nothingness.

jason, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

They call me "the Mutt" and with all that implies

I thought this said "...and with all my nipples". I have no clue why or what that could possibly imply but that's much better than what that said.

Ally, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

what does being a mutt 'imply' anyway? i mean, as a positive thing to the ladies, which he seems to figure. is this some reference to non-missionary position activity that i'm missing out on?

ethan, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

A considerable dud. It's not as bad as I'd like to make it out to be, but it's incredibly smug, self-satisfied, and condescending -- not to mention almost never funny. And hey -- it encapsulates virtually everything about stereotypical-people-from-New-York that gets on my nerves.

The Simpsons, conversely, are classic.

Phil, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

The first time around classic, but the second time around watching the reruns now I'd say dud for above reasons: smug, self-satisfied, aggressively normal, wretched fashion sense. And I don't know if I'm being overly-sensitive or what, but isn't it one of the most consistently racist sitcoms you've ever seen, at least from such a recent time period?

Also, Jerry's millions got him that 17 y.o. honey (who ended up dumping his ass, btw). Not the trainers. No way was it the trainers. Please god tell me it wasn't the trainers.

tha chzza, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

since when does everyone sneering about how the people dress on the fucking show? i liked that they looked like normal dumb assholes instead of the rich tailored assholes on like, friends or something. fuck fashion, all the best sitcoms are about people in 'awful' clothes. i think i'll take taxi and the honeymooners and married with children over fucking will & goddamned fucking grace.

ethan, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

does = is

ethan, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone actually like Will and Grace? I watched the first couple of episodes shown over here and they were wretched.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

everyone watches it, it's like the highest rated sitcom on tv right now. and i'm pretty sure it won a best comedy emmy. that doesn't mean much critically, but it means people like it.

ethan, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't get this criticism. "I hate that show! They dress like crap!" So do most of you, I bet. Ha.

Elaine had the best hair ever in the later series.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Well, yes, obviously someone must like it or it wouldn't be on telly. I was just wondering if anyone on this beeotch liked it.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

It used to be alright. That Karen girl is my idol. But the rest of them are just awful, especially Will who is horrible and unfunny and not really great looking either. Karen is fantastic, they should make a show just about her.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...
need to know what mark s thinks

Josh, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

funny obv

mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

seinfeld not will and grace

mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

More than funny. Possibly the finest TV show evah. A whole series based around social etiquettes, social signals, socialistica! Like the Wink & The Gun, and the Old Switcheroo, and the Old Clear Throat. And how it's funny just recounting the plot, leaving out the jokes, just telling the scenario - I'm not explaining this very well. But it's beyond funny. Also - the slap bass and fashion sense = jokes.

david h(owie), Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Seinfeld always came off a VERY poor second to Larry Sanders when they were shown together on BBC2...

Andrew L, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

People are always saying this. I disagree, even though I love Larry Sanders. They're different kind of shows though - I think people in the UK just think of them together cause of the scheduling.

N., Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Yes.

david h(owie), Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...
This thread is weird. I expected to find lots of Seinfeld love. It seems like a very ILX type show. What's up with some of the criticism here? Racist?! "Wretched fashion sense"?!

Anyway, I want to hate this show, it's the type of cultural phenomenon that normally annoys me, but every time I stumble across a rerun I end up watching it and having some good laffs. Last night I saw the one where Elaine dates a mover but breaks up with him because of his stance on abortion. And George invites himself over to a family's house to watch their rented copy of Breakfast at Tiffany's because he didn't read the book for his study group. It was funny. I'll say classic.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:39 (11 years ago) Permalink

The darkest, sickest show television has ever spewed forth. Unbelievably classic.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

And I, too, am blown away by this thread. It shocks me so that I may have to step away from the computer. What's wrong with you people?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

I've seen plenty of episodes becuase it's been re-runned forever, everywhere and I have never ever laughed, not once. It doesn't irritate me, it doesn't offend me, it doesn't amuse me...it's just there.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:53 (11 years ago) Permalink

That's so weird.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

Do you like anything on television?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

so fucking classic. same with larry sanders.

BBC2 didin't treat these shows like the comedy gold they were (sticking them late evening etc WTF?!) whereas crap like friends and will and grace get prime time on C4 (OK the former was funny for the first two series).

crosspost: daddino doesn't rock anymore.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

...and maybe the reason why is that I don't even find any of the characters especially eccentric or neurotic. Make of that what you will.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

The Larry David one might've been OK because he and Jerry have a great rapport, which definitely couldn't be said about him and Gervais. The Brian Regan one wasn't so bad. But this series seems to be just Jerry on autopilot. It would be interesting if he were trying a little harder. It really just seems unprepared, totally winging it.

America's Mobile, Friday, 10 August 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

gervais woul dbe better served with a Mitchell or Webb

Sweet Yin Yang ☯ (Latham Green), Friday, 10 August 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

We did the usual thing today where each of my students introduced his or her seatmate, and it turns out one my girls says she wants to be an architect. Naturally thrilled. If she suddenly decides she wants to be a city planner instead, I won't be happy.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

What if she wants to be a marine biologist?

nickn, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

We were joking about that! (A Seinfeld fan I work with.) The thing is, she's a nice girl and a good student--apparently she really does want to be an architect. It defeats the whole purpose if she's not a complete phony like George.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Everybody's talkin at me
I can't hear a word they're sayin
Just drivin round in Jon Voight's car

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Any hot chicks out there want to get bisy just let me know. I got it all . They call me "the Mutt" and with all that implies. And that ain't dirt in my eye.

Larry

― Larry Mutt, Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:00 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HAHAHH what???

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

valuable old posters

some dude, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

rip larry mutt

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

"i don't think i could do it. they say you always remember your first time. i don't want to be remembered, i want to be forgotten."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

I just saw the episode with the other Frank Costanza (the handicapped parking/Drake episode). Very disorienting, having seen the reshot episode many times. MIA: the way Jerry Stiller says "de-li-ver" when he instructs George to pick up the wheelchair.

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

"The Switch" was on the other day. I think it might be the greatest episode of any sitcom ever.

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Yeah, they've been killing it all month.

Plasmon, Monday, 20 May 2013 03:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like these but one of them is a direct lift from a Star Trek: deep space nine episode I'm sure of it.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 May 2013 04:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

the jerry arc there is from a krzhizhonovsky story

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 May 2013 04:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am familiar with the works of Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky.

Plasmon, Monday, 20 May 2013 08:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

reminded me of "House of Leaves"

Number None, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

George stares into the abyss, but the abyss shows no interest back.

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's from nietzsche

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

ugh this is even cornier than 'future seinfeld,' what is the compulsion to use an actual comedy classic as fodder for chin-scratching internet humor

yeeznuts (some dude), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

this here is one of my favourite piece of 'internet humour':

Seinfeld Current Day ‏@Seinfeld2000
Newmen comit suicide

NI, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait what's chin scratching about it -- it's pretty faithful to the Seinfeld template and free of deliberate misspellings.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

, Friday, 10 January 2014 18:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

George and Jerry's 'Comedians In Cars' reunion special http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/george-costanza-the-over-cheer

piscesx, Monday, 3 February 2014 03:34 (7 months ago) Permalink

This was not funny at all.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:03 (7 months ago) Permalink

I've been enjoying Comedians in Cars, though. Not the Tina Fey one as much as the others, but I'm a regular viewer. And i was ina Starbucks next to a guy watching it on his laptop, which makes me think it's taking off.

tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:08 (7 months ago) Permalink

so wait is 'Goerge Costanza' in character in this episode of Comedians in Cars?

scott c-word (some dude), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:22 (7 months ago) Permalink

i'll never know!

balls, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:36 (7 months ago) Permalink

xp I think the concept is that it starts out as the actors but kind of time-warps into the characters when they enter the restaurant. Man I fucking hate Jerry Seinfeld.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:41 (7 months ago) Permalink

painful

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:44 (7 months ago) Permalink

the seinfeld reunion season of curb is so great, larry and jerry really were so great together.

balls, Monday, 3 February 2014 04:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

A joke about shitting in your host's house at a party... just off yourself you hack.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

Just watched it--yeah, that didn't work at all.

tbd (Eazy), Monday, 3 February 2014 04:51 (7 months ago) Permalink

not the wallersteins

flopson, Monday, 3 February 2014 05:51 (7 months ago) Permalink

yeah man that totally sucked. and one thing about the series is the retro car porn is sort of pathetic in the context, he is so boring now yet senselessly rich. it's sad to see how little enjoyment he gets out of life

flopson, Monday, 3 February 2014 05:58 (7 months ago) Permalink

i think he enjoyed the pacer

j., Monday, 3 February 2014 06:05 (7 months ago) Permalink

The thing about its marketing was pretty funny

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, 3 February 2014 06:13 (7 months ago) Permalink

yes they're in character to answer the question. the latest (3rd) series of CICGC has been less funny this time around imo; the earlier Brian Regan,
Alec Baldwin and Carl Reiner ones were side splitting. it's pretty popular now though it seems
http://www.thewrap.com/comedians-in-cars-getting-coffee-jerry-seinfeld-crack-25-million-streams

piscesx, Monday, 3 February 2014 06:28 (7 months ago) Permalink

I think the concept is that it starts out as the actors but kind of time-warps into the characters when they enter the restaurant.

He's dressed as George Costanza in the car, making George-style "uh-huh. uh--huh."s in the car, is rugless throughout, and captioned and introduced as 'George Costanza.'

(D1CK$) (sic), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:18 (7 months ago) Permalink

yeah i picked up a couple of those subtle clues

regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 February 2014 08:33 (7 months ago) Permalink

i didn't realize JA was known for wearing a little hair hat now

scott c-word (some dude), Monday, 3 February 2014 11:25 (7 months ago) Permalink

he is so boring now yet senselessly rich. it's sad to see how little enjoyment he gets out of life

I like it in the Todd Barry one where he's shocked when Todd tells him he carries his laundry down the street in a big dirty clothes bag. There's a weird pause and Jerry kind of meekly says "I mean... I used to do that."

Walter Galt, Monday, 3 February 2014 11:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

i think for a billionaire (or whatever) that JS comes across as relatively easy going and fun loving in the Comedians In Cars.. stuff. as much as anyone with a shedload of cash i mean.

piscesx, Monday, 3 February 2014 11:42 (7 months ago) Permalink

I didn't think it was very funny but I wasn't offended....

Evan, Monday, 3 February 2014 13:29 (7 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Watching the series from scratch. Great line in S1E1, he says, what do men want? They what women! It's the only thing we're completely sure of.

Otm

calstars, Sunday, 27 July 2014 20:51 (1 month ago) Permalink


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