Aldo reads Marvel NOW! (even though you are, and he clearly hasn't learned his lesson)

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I'm not really feeling Deadpool; the jokes are there but the underlying menace isn't, and that juxtaposition was my favorite thing about Kelly's run and something I haven't really gotten from any of the other Deadpool runs I've read.

I am enjoying Uncanny Avengers in spite of myself? I had forgotten how much of a Havok fanboy I used to be before this series.

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Did you read Havok in X-Factor? That was a fun little run.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

haha of course I did! PAD + Havok = instant good times

as someone who has found Scott borderline irredeemable since the beginning of X-Factor, Alex quickly became "the good Summers brother" to me and it's always bummed me out that he never attained the status Scott did, so seeing him tapped to lead the flagship crossover team between the X-Men and Avengers is kind of a dream come true for me that is making me gloss over a lot of annoying storytelling quirks

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

Totally fair. I like Havok too, and thought the "X IN SPACE" (you have to say it like the Muppets Pigs in Space. Trust me) stories were well done. Scott's been a dick long before X-Factor; pretty much since he had to come back from retirement with Maddy.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

... that was the beginning of X-Factor, wasn't it? Scott ditching his wife and son to run after his high school girlfriend? Or am I forgetting another piece of Scott Summers dickery? (I know there was some nonsense around the time when Storm took over leadership, where he basically acted like The X-Men would fall apart if he wasn't there to lead them and then Ororo handed him his ass without any powers, lol.)

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, X-Factor #1 featured Cyclod running out on his wife and kid when he discovered Jean was alive.

New Testes Leper (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

I thought he was back before X-Factor, though that is when he finally threw off Madelyne; isn't the patronizing Storm bull before then? Though he came and went so often between Krakoa and X-Factor it's hard to keep straight.

But no matter how much of a dick he was back then, he wasn't as bad as Xavier when he got the ability to walk again. Scott basically turned into that guy in the intervening years.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

I wish I knew how to get in that beta.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

I think if you subscribe they will email you with the beta address, so worth a punt for a month I guess

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

They haven't mailed me shit and I've been a subscriber for most of a year. Buggers.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

This might work for a bit, sort of

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'll give it a go.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Got it working! A little slow, but single page view looks gorgeous on the ipad. This is a game changer.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 December 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Bah, my iPad 1 keeps crashing :/

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

sold

THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

or rather i will be once it's live. Someone update here please?

THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

Once I hear its out of beta I'll shout it from the rooftops.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 December 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

I think John Cassaday's take on the Red Skull looks really cool. It's got kind of an EC comics thing going on, the eyes are totally crazy looking.

Marvel are making a big deal on "Now!" but really it is the same kind of reboot every 18-24 month thing they have had going on for a few years with new writers on some characters that haven't had a change out of teams for a long time.

earlnash, Monday, 17 December 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I'd like to scatter the tumbleweed around here with some good news, but the Superior Spider-Man first issue is just awful. I was expecting at least a mild okay. It's actually DC-level witless.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Spider-Man is a character in desperate need of some downtime (a la Thor's vacation between Disassembled and the Straczynski book) and is also, unfortunately, the last Marvel character who'll ever get any kind of moritorium, however brief.

The Poston & Henning Variety Jamboree (Old Lunch), Saturday, 12 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Superior Spider-Man seems pretty good to me. It's a kinda hokey situation, but it's done very well.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 12 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

that All New X-Men plot actually sounds kinda fun to me, tbh

Nhex, Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

Hah I just came in here to say what a blast All-New X-Men is

Brakhage, Thursday, 17 January 2013 05:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm really enjoying it as well. And ditto for Waid's new Hulk title, which is a little surprising to me.

Jah Creature (WilliamC), Thursday, 17 January 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

I found out - but can't find the image right now to show you - that the point at which the old timeline is visited is actually what was going on in a specific X-issue. All-New enacts the same scene with a different layout, so you don't notice they're redoing Kirby/Lee, it's an awesome detail.

Brakhage, Friday, 18 January 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Young Avengers anyone? Nice art, but seems like power-pop in comic form (I.e. kids stuff for us oldsters)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

It doesn't have the mature seriousness of Daredevil, true.

Affleck-chin.jpg.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

I thought it was kind of cool knockabout fun, but I wouldn't put it on a pull list. Then again there aren't many comics I'd consider putting on a pull list these days.

Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

I liked it! But it felt a little square -- NB. So am I -- and needed better jokes.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

I thought it was too much "Super Phonogram" which definitely put me off. I liked Gillen on Journey Into Mystery and Uncanny X-Men (though Land makes me want to break his porn tracing hands), but his Iron Man is pretty dire so far and this is not off to a good start.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

He's talked a lot about how this is superheroes as pop music, so it doesn't sound like this is necc. your thing (though Phonogram is more Afghan Whigs than Azaelia Banks).

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

I hate Phonogram with a passion, so any of it's taint sweeping into his super stuff is going to rankle. Shame, because I think he can do good cape stuff that doesn't feel so forcedly precious.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard the Journey into Mystery stuff was great - worth a shot?

Phonogram did not work for me at all. It's like the 500 Days of Summer of comics. Ick.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

I'm enjoying Journey Into Mystery quite a bit, but in a lot of the same ways as I enjoyed Young Avengers so YMMV. I didn't think Phonogram was that bad, but then I don't think I read past the first collection.

On balance DC may have better writers than Marvel at the moment, they're just doing a worse job.

Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

His Journey Into Mystery run is a fun adventure with a horrible crossover with Fraction's Thor absolutely mutilates the overall series. Gillen ends it well, but the Fraction taint is strong.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

Read a Wolverine and the X-Men graphic novel collection by Gillen and Chris Bachalo that I borrowed from the library - seemed a bit sub-Peter David tbh, but it wasn't terrible either.

Didn't realise Fraction was hated these day - iirc his Iron Man series used to be an ILC fave rave.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

Gillen and Fraction seem to have an odd symbiotic relationship - Fraction taking on Thor after Gillen (and running it at the same time as JIM), Gillen following Fraction on Uncanny X-Men and Iron Man.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Fraction is hit or miss for me, though mostly the latter. And when he sucks he SUCKS. I liked his Iron Man for a while - the whole erase and reboot was a fun idea - but it was dead long before it was buried. His Thor was crap from the get go, and his Fantastic Four is quickly ruining all the hard work Hickman did to rescue the moribund foursome. If he ever tops the Iron Fist he did with Brubaker I'll be surprised.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Fraction's up and down, but Hawkeye's been great.

They're both oversusceptible to grating disco dad-isms, but Fraction's a much better joke writer.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

xp - Is that the one where Wolverine is now headmaster at Xavier Academy? I enjoyed it a lot, but it's not written by Kieron Gillen.

(I'm not to be honest seeing where there's supposed to be jokes in Young Avengers, other than Hulkling's terrible Spiderman costume?)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

Hawkeye seems to be trying too hard for me, and exhibits all the tics I don't like about Fraction's work. I don't find Fraction funnier, but he definitely thinks he's a better joke writer than he is. Gillen knows he's corny and undercuts himself.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

You're right Andrew F, I'm getting my Gillen mixed up w/ my Aaron

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

Fraction's Thor is the first thing I read by him that I didn't like. (I only read the first issue of Hawkeye... it didn't grab me.)

Dr. Alfred P. Falfa (WilliamC), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

Those first two issues of Hawkeye felt fun but decidedly affected, but issue three (and every issue since) has hit a sweet spot. The car chase in three = yowza.

"Rob is startled, this is straight up gangster" (R Baez), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Hawkeye is currently the best Marvel book I'm reading

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

New Avengers is the best Marvel book at the moment.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Having recommended Hawkeye, don't pick up the latest one, which was a "very special issue" and is pretty poor. But yeah, from the third issue on the affectations get a bit less annoying (or I just got used to them).

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah - those first two issues left me "impressed", if not so much enthralled.

"Rob is startled, this is straight up gangster" (R Baez), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Glad I got over my Miller/Mazzuchelli shock of the first ish and stuck with it. It's tremendous fun. Agreed the new one is pretty weak but it's an old-school comic PSA

Brakhage, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

Jeff Parker wrote a bunch of those alt-continuity, all-ages Marvel Adventures titles, where he basically got to do his own Ultimate Spider-Man under the radar.

Jeans That Smell Like Ham Because There's Ham In The Pockets (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link

<I>Like, Ostrander could do things with Suicide Squad that he never could've done if he was writing the Justice League, and the same applies to Kieron Gillen with Young Avengers, Christos Cage with Avengers: The Initiative/Avengers Academy, etc.</I>

Bearing in mind that at the same time he was writing Young Avengers, Gillen established that Tony Stark is adopted...

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

I have to say that the past few years have really made me into a big Remender/Hickman/Fraction fan. I really dig all of those dudes, ESPECIALLY Fraction.

Also in completely unsurprising news, Al Ewing has been killing every Marvel project he's touched. Kind of amazing/crazy/awesome that One Of Our Own is the hot new talent at one of the Big Two.

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

I think the Jeff Parker / Gabriel Hardman stuff was a few years ahead of it's time. Like, with the right kind of project they would fit right into All New Marvel Now along with Daredevil and Hawkeye and She-Hulk and Loki and Young Avengers and Ms Marvel. Agents of Atlas was really good, but at the time it was seen as too 'marginal'. Now She-Hulk spends an entire issue arguing about the inventions of Jonas Harrow...

Marvel really is on fire these days. Wonder how soon it will collapse.

Frederik B, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link

What's interesting is that I don't think they've got anyone other than Bendis on an exclusive (okay, possibly a "Don't do DC", apart from She-hulk's writer) - all of them have some side gig or other going, many with Image.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link

Parker's run on Thunderbolts was amazing. The time travel stuff was probably my favorite Marvel storyline of the last several years.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link

oh THAT was Parker? yeah that was super fun, also TROLL!

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Friday, 14 February 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link

xx-post: I think the fact that they allow their writers to do Image-stuff is quite important in them being able to get the best and brightest. Like, why not do 2½ Avengers-books and your own stuff at the same time?

Frederik B, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link

Over on twitter I suggested to Parker a Thunderbolts spin-off called HYDE AND TROLL SEEK. He said he wished he could but it wasn't in the cards. :(

EZ Snappin, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

aw

sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Friday, 14 February 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

"Parker's run on Thunderbolts was amazing."

Parker also made the Rulk readable and enjoyable. Definitely taking lemons and making lemonade as comics.

I'd love to Jeff Parker get the Fantastic Four. Probably won't happen, but I bet he could do some fun F4 comics.

Steve Gerber maybe not doing a run with one of the marquee titles may have just not happened as the whole Howard the Duck ownership thing derailed that relationship. I'd love to see what he would have done in a Fantastic Four or Avengers run.

Jeff Parker deserves some Marvel U. props for how he used Man-Thing and Satana in that run on T-Bolts. That was ace and really did well to tie-in to the old appearances in a way. I'd think he could do some cool stuff with The Defenders if they would only let them use Dr. Strange, the Hulk, Valkrie with Kev Walker. Walker is really good and if they hit with the right comic together, I think it could catch on.

earlnash, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:46 (ten years ago) link

Decent gossipy interview with Sean Howe:

https://www.nerdist.com/2014/02/nerdist-comics-panel-29-sean-howe/

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 February 2014 12:42 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Did you know that the first issue of Spider-Gwen sold more than 300.000 issues? And I think that's just direct market, Marvel keeps claiming that these types of series sell better digitally. That is kinda insane.

Frederik B, Saturday, 23 May 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

I heard lots of good things, and tried it, but as is so typical in modern superhero comics, despite being #1, it seems to be halfway through a story.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link


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