RFI: Laurie Spiegel

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ah, thank you. that was a great article, then about halfway through I was like oh, Reynolds, duh.

sleeve, Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

So much bullshit on downtown vs uptown "establishment"! That's rich coming from Spiegel, who was well-funded by Bell to make the music she wanted. Had to laugh at Reynolds using her paper on retro -- which from the quote seems like a thin bit of theory/cultural commentary -- to then promote his book. Pathetic.

Really liked her bits on her research into pre-civil war ("shapenote" music). Lots to enjoy as a whole but leaves a bad taste.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 December 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

sourpuss!

scott seward, Sunday, 9 December 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

i thought it was put together well. told a compelling story about work. educated me. voila, hype your book all you want.

scott seward, Sunday, 9 December 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

Its certainly compelling. Varese thought about making machine music until depression set in, he had nothing to work with until v late in his own life. People might say it would've been marvellous if he was starting out now or when Laurel did but that article makes it clear the problems he would have had.

A few made it work. Others -- most notably Helmut Lachenmann -- took the experience of makng electronics, hated it, but used it to enrich the palette of instrumental music.

Just don't need yet another piece thrashing post-Webern music to justify this. Beause I like Laurie's music I read it as nervousness about its own merits, like it must be validated by a struggle agaist an establishment. The struggle was elsewhere, but they perservered, took it out there and carved ther own space.

I think there is a piece to be written about how this stuff would perhaps compare with what was coming out of IRCAM.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 December 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck: whatever ITunes cards I get for Xmas will be blown on this woman's music

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 10 December 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

there is some sort of collaboration in the works with caribou / daphni apparently.

stirmonster, Monday, 10 December 2012 06:32 (eleven years ago) link

ugh

Crackle Box, Monday, 10 December 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

>:[

she was giving it to two friends ...Aaay! (crüt), Monday, 10 December 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

4 dec.
Caribou ‏@caribouband
JIAOLONG006 features a previous Jiaolong artist together with a pioneer of electronic music. Any guesses?

7 dec.
Caribou ‏@caribouband
FANTASTIC feature on @LaurieSpiegel who has been a great inspiration to me over the years - http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9002-laurie-spiegel/ …

7 dec.
Caribou ‏@caribouband
[hint, hint...]

So I'm guessing this'll be a 12". Looking at jialong's discogs it could indeed be Daphni, but technically speaking also Jeremy Greenspan or Les Sins (Toro Y Moi project) could be involved.

willem, Monday, 10 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

gr8 piece on a brilliant mind (smh @ the jungle reference)

am0n, Monday, 10 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

this is a really good read...

http://sexmagazine.us/articles/laurie-spiegel/1

she's so cool!

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

countdown to Laurel Halo collab on RVNG.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for that link, CB.

I keep wanting to use the display name 'Laurie Smeagol' but a) it's probably not as funny as I think it is, b) not sure many people would get it, and c) I don't really do wacky display name changes.

emil.y, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

that's one dodgy-looking url for that interview...

koogs, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

> it's probably not as funny as I think it is

i laughed

koogs, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

i laughed
Smeagol is always funny

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

i laughed

the late great, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

i laughed

crüt, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Aw, you guys.

emil.y, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

I lold

shave and a haircut...2 CHAINZ (m bison), Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

big piece by me in frieze:

http://blog.frieze.com/an-interview-with-laurie-spiegel/

geeta, Monday, 24 December 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

Hey geeta, I sent you an email to the address you give on theoriginalsoundtrack.com, with a link to download something I thought might interest you. Just a heads up in case you don't normally check that.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 24 December 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, no Laurie Spiegel content.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 24 December 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

just saw it! thanks!!

geeta, Monday, 24 December 2012 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

best article yet and that is saying something. placing cultural context is one thing, but emotional context is another

nice youtube of a guy who got Music Mouse running on an Atari ST emulator on his Windows machine, patched in through Reason as his synth. His improvisations are a lot more traditional than anything Spiegel herself released but it's nice to get a sense of the software by seeing the GUI in action

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8083/8306890717_56e6697742.jpg

hot slag (lukas), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

Okay bought "The Expanding Universe," will listen and report back

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Did this get linked somewhere? Jeremy Greenspan's reworking of Drums:

http://www.spin.com/blogs/junior-boys-jeremy-greenspan-reworks-laurie-spiegels-proto-techno-drums

qbert yuiop (NickB), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...
five months pass...

Finally caved and bought the LP version of this. Very pleased. A question, though - the CD has a really big, detailed booklet with diagrams and photos. The LP doesn't? Or is it just my copy that lacks an insert?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 September 2013 06:45 (ten years ago) link

Sometimes, if I buy digital/Vinyl I email the record label and ask for a .pdf of the inlay card if its got loads of detail.

some have been great - RVNG.itl

some have been awful - Gronland records

I try to include the email invoice of the digital or a photo of me holding the record....

it kills me when the reviews talk of the amazing stuff in the liner notes and the vinyl has a white inner sleeve and nothing else..

my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 13 September 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link

I've had similar interactions with Matt who runs RVNG. Definitely one of the good guys.

Position Position, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

If you redeem the digital download code included with the vinyl of The Expanding Universe, you'll get a .pdf of the CD liner notes.

J. Sam, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

It's amazing that more labels don't do that. The downloads that come with those cards can be anything. When you buy any of the last 3 Acute releases (before they sold out that is), the download gets you the LP, plus tons of bonus tracks plus a PDF of the liner notes. More labels should include videos and other stuff like that.

dan selzer, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link

Thanks J Sam - got it. Would still have loved the liner notes in tactile form--what if, in two years, I have the record handy but not the hard drive / laptop / whatever?--but at least now I can read 'em.

Vinyl gouging sucks bad enough without getting less than what you would get if you bought the CD.

tbf, though, this Spiegel reissue is super inexpensive, given what these sorts of things usually cost ($20ppd with download / pdf, etc)

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

but at least now I can read 'em
You might actually be one up on us CD owners there, as half of the text in the booklet is virtually illegible due to the tiny printing and odd background colour scheme choices (white font on yellow for example).

Jeff W, Monday, 16 September 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

anyone seen this? http://cubittartists.org.uk/2014/05/29/a-caelo-usque-ad-centrum-dena-yago-laurie-spiegel/

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

thanks, fantastic interview. what a hero(ine)

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fy5ilFJENo&list=UUEIPw9uWhRVz8K8nrCcxwPQ&index=2

I would love an album of her guitar playing, very curious about it

nebulous British ilxor (ogmor), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

ah just meant to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDA2uQCJPjE

nebulous British ilxor (ogmor), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

I played music in other people’s ensembles, played guitar or banjo or whatever for Tom Johnson and with Rhys Chatham. I would do these filigree patterns, and Rhys would do these long drone-like lines against the stuff. That balanced it.

has anyone else been trying to imagine this? mb it's niche but it sounds so promising to me

nebulous British ilxor (ogmor), Monday, 10 November 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...
two years pass...

Quick drop in to say that I’m in an FM kinda mood and just listened to Unseen Worlds ... love this.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 January 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

i just picked up a copy of Unseen Worlds a couple weeks ago! still digesting it - very different than Expanding Universe, which makes sense because it used a totally different setup/programming interface

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 January 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link

multichannel work in nyc in march https://issueprojectroom.org/event/laurie-spiegel-harmonic-algorithm-collaboration-seth-cluett-caterina-barbieri

adam, Monday, 27 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link


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