how did it take so long for them to find this
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 7 December 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Starting the conversation!
― Milton Parker, Friday, 7 December 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
Ok, I'm not ready to call bullshit on this with 100% certainty, since it's possible some of this story is true—anti-American sentiment is rampant, and I can't find much information on Psy's 2002 performances—but the account of his 2004 rap is so poorly sourced right now that I can't believe credible media outlets are reporting it.
Reports insist that Korean media has known about this story for a long time. I can't confirm that, because I don't speak Korean (I suspect most American reporters writing about this don't either), but from what I see, all the Korean outlets linked to as a source are citing this CNN iReport from October: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-853509
It's written in broken English by a user who cites no sources, doesn't give his or her name, and has never written anything else for iReport. It's essentially an anonymous comment on a message board, and as best as I can tell without speaking Korean, all reports about the "fucking Yankees" rap eventually link back to it.
― Evan R, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
this is much better (and much better-sourced) article http://busanhaps.com/article/exclusive-psys-once-passionate-protesting-past
― max, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
No, it's not. All of the links it cites as evidence for the 2004 incident all eventually link back to that same shady iReport.
― Evan R, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
uh? http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-26840321_ITM
― max, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
oh sorry missed 2004 in your post
― max, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
i stand by my assertion that its a much better and much better sourced article
Ah, shit, according to MTV Psy just apologized for the incident, which basically confirms the story. Still doesn't forgive the reckless sourcing by American media outlets up til now, but the story was true
― Evan R, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
The MTV story mentions there is still some lack of clarity over the exact words he used at the time.
Oddly, I remember that exact Korea Times article from 2002.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 7 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
boo
he should have just been like "yup, I said that" and shrugged, then danced away
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
preferably will singing "heeeeeey, kill yr daughters"
yanqui pigdog style
― before and after broscience (goole), Friday, 7 December 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
Aww, now there's an apology :(
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gangnam-style-rapper-performing-at-christmas-in-washington
“As a proud South Korean who was educated in the United States and lived there for a very significant part of my life, I understand the sacrifices American servicemen and women have made to protect freedom and democracy in my country and around the world. The song I featured on in question from eight years ago – was part of a deeply emotional reaction to the war in Iraq and the killing of two Korean schoolgirls that was part of the overall antiwar sentiment shared by others around the world at that time. While I’m grateful for the freedom to express one's self, I’ve learned there are limits to what language is appropriate and I’m deeply sorry for how these lyrics could be interpreted. I will forever be sorry for any pain I have caused by those words. “I have been honored to perform in front of American soldiers in recent months – including an appearance on the Jay Leno show specifically for them- and I hope they and all Americans can accept my apology. While it’s important that we express our opinions, I deeply regret the inflammatory and inappropriate language I used to do so. In my music, I try to give people a release, a reason to smile. I have learned that thru music, our universal language we can all come together as a culture of humanity and I hope that you will accept my apology."
“As a proud South Korean who was educated in the United States and lived there for a very significant part of my life, I understand the sacrifices American servicemen and women have made to protect freedom and democracy in my country and around the world. The song I featured on in question from eight years ago – was part of a deeply emotional reaction to the war in Iraq and the killing of two Korean schoolgirls that was part of the overall antiwar sentiment shared by others around the world at that time. While I’m grateful for the freedom to express one's self, I’ve learned there are limits to what language is appropriate and I’m deeply sorry for how these lyrics could be interpreted. I will forever be sorry for any pain I have caused by those words.
“I have been honored to perform in front of American soldiers in recent months – including an appearance on the Jay Leno show specifically for them- and I hope they and all Americans can accept my apology. While it’s important that we express our opinions, I deeply regret the inflammatory and inappropriate language I used to do so. In my music, I try to give people a release, a reason to smile. I have learned that thru music, our universal language we can all come together as a culture of humanity and I hope that you will accept my apology."
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 December 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
anyone else remember this clip which made the rounds 2005-7?
http://www.robpongi.com/pages/comboFUCKINGUSAHI.html
― Milton Parker, Friday, 7 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
Despite the title, this animated video is not at all pornographic.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
lol this is on the foxnews homepage now
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
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― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, Psy's even cooler than I could've imagined.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
nm didnt notice the apology
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bolegaindia.com/images/gossips/life-of-pi-post_1354004950.jpg
― Roz, Saturday, 8 December 2012 05:44 (eleven years ago) link
so did an american tank actually kill a few kids and that's what led to this response?because I'm trying to imagine a korean tank running over a few four year olds in Wyoming and what Blake Shelton might do with that.
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
however you spin it i can't imagine any pop singer in American getting away with calling for the death of foreigners
― let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, justice will be served and the battle will rage:This big dog will fight when you rattle his cage.An' you'll be sorry that you messed with the U.S. of A.'Cos we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.
Hey, Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list,And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist.And the eagle will fly and it's gonna be hell,When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell.And it'll feel like the whole wide world is raining down on you.Ah, brought to you, courtesy of the red, white and blue.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://images.nonexiste.net/popular/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/thats-the-joke.png
― let's hear it for the women (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
This song is still enormous with my son and all his 8-year-old friends that he brings over. They listen to it on repeat every time they take over my house. I'll be interested to see if this rap/scandal/apology filters back to me through them.
― how's life, Sunday, 9 December 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjLuj0EhsQg
Still need to hear from Bowles.
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
i saw these in a tiny korean cafe i found yesterday
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r636/kbskmk/eBay/Clothing%20Shoes%20Accessories/Socks/Socks08-PSY04_zps73a8ba7e.jpg
i spent a little while thinking about whether they were cool or not but they didn't really have them in tall european man with big ass feet sizes
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
they also had shin cup socks, which were amazing
Too much time on etc
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
This ain't no rag it's a flagAnd we don't wear it on our headsIt's a symbol of the land where the good guys liveAre you listening to what I saidYou're a coward and a foolAnd you broke all of the rulesAnd you wounded our American pride
And now we're coming with a gunAnd we know you're gonna runBut you can't find no place to hideWe're gonna hunt you down like a mad dog houndMake you pay for the lives you stoleWe're all through talking and a messing aroundAnd now it's time to rock and roll
― s.clover, Monday, 10 December 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=LNo9x7KQ4ZI
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captivesKill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to tortureKill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathersKill them all slowly and painfully
I'd love it so much if this was the translation of the chorus of Gangnam Style.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
heyyyyyyy sexy yankee
― D-40, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
re: fucking USA, that was about soccer/'fitba', or some olympics thing I forget which.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
DJP's "heeeeeey, kill yr daughters" cracks me up every time i hear the song now
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/k-pop-2012-life-after-psy
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
Even in composition, "Gangnam Style" is a dance-floor number rooted in traditional Korean rhythms, a reason for its initial success at home, Kim says. "It's a folk song," he explains, "A perfect line and pattern. Koreans, a lot of times, scratch their heads: 'Why was that one song not so popular over there, when it's so big here? Or vice versa?' This, though, when it first came out in early summer, was already viral."
Traditional Korean rhythms, there you go.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
The brief period when this was fun is going to be forgotten by the time it's slipped into its infinitely longer lifespan of middle-aged regional sales managers doing the horsey dance at office Christmas parties. For ever. While stamping on a human face.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 12:33 (2 months ago)
The death of a father-of-three who collapsed while dancing to Gangnam Style has prompted a warning to middle-aged men not to attempt the vigorous dance from the hit video.
Eamonn Kilbride, 46, collapsed with chest pains at his office party in Blackburn last weekend after performing the dance moves made famous by the South Korean rapper Psy, who mimics riding a horse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gangnam-style-death-prompts-warning-to-middleaged-men-not-to-attempt-the-vigorous-dance-8411905.html
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
And here's Ask a Korean on PSY/Gangnam Style:
PSY -- born Park Jae-sang -- debuted in 2000, which was a major inflection point in Korean pop music history. Prior to late 1990s, popular musicians of Korea could be divided largely into two categories: the entertainers and the artists. The entertainers were no better than singing clowns, driven to put on a good show to earn the public's adulation and another day's living. The artists were concerned with the quality and message of their music, endeavoring to create something new and meaningful. The two groups of people did not have much in common, and overlapped only infrequently. (When they did overlap, they are remembered as legends of Korean pop music. Shin Joong-hyeon was both an opening act at a USO show and pioneering rock musician. Seo Taiji was both a leader of a boy band and introducer of hiphop to Korea.)
But one thing did tie the groups together -- they were both serious people. The threat of poverty and hunger endowed the entertainers with a hardened edge, even if that edge would only be visible off the stage. It was the typical gravity of purpose that drove the artists into seriousness. Much of this was a function of the times they lived in Korea. There is nothing terribly fun about poverty, sweatshops, dictator rule and constant Red Scare -- the conditions that plagued Korea until late 1980s. It was not just Korean artists who were serious; all of Korea was serious.
It is too much to call these artists joyless -- surely, they must have felt deep-seated satisfaction derived from their life's work. But still, they were serious; more often than not, they didn't seem to be having fun. As Korea became wealthier and freer, that began to change. And PSY was one of the first Korean pop musician to lead the charge.
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2012/10/aak-music-gangnam-style-by-psy.html
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
heyyyyyy sexy laaadaaay
nope still good
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 06:37 (eleven years ago) link
kind of tired of it now :(
― The Reverend, Saturday, 15 December 2012 07:51 (eleven years ago) link
has no major rapper done a gangname freestyle on a mix cd yet?or is kanye just waiting till 2013?
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 December 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
i think i may end up in a workplace gangam style parody video
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
i warned you and warned you
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:06 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if i were to guess which ilxors this would happen to, you would be number one
― D-40, Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
number two would be ned raggett
i was in a terrible mood and trying to fix my malfunctioning printer tray when the HR guy came in to my office w/ a camera rolling all "ok give us your best gangnam style!!!" and i was like no thanks thats cool until after more prodding i waved my arms in the air once or twice (still holding a broken paper tray).
this is going to be edited in to a video to be played at the holiday party on tuesday i think, at which all of the hotel's top managers will do a gangnam style flash mob which they have been rehearsing for weeks with a hired choreographer.
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
it was preceded by my co-worker i crush on coming in my office with tears in her eyes saying "they made me dance and i hate dancing-- i'm chinese" :-[
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link