lol I just got called a hipster like half an hour ago *likes r&b*
tbh I had no idea Cody Chesnutt released an album this year and I loved Headphone Masterpiece
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
liked the idea of headphone masterpiece more than the execution
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
It's one of those albums that's a total mess and I wouldn't want it any other way.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
It does strike me as odd that this whole conversation was sparked by Jeremih, who isn't really by any estimation one of the tastemaking hipsters lex would decry, in spite of his attempts to lump him in. I mean, he's pretty obviously following trends here, rather than setting them. You might as well get upset at people for liking Melonie Fiona.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah, the reason it became a convo is because an example as batshit as Jeremih was used. making a mixtape with DJ Drama and 2 Chainz and Mike Will Made It, what a hipster!
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
Hey Julio, because Ike hair:
Wire Modern Composition A-Z
William Berger/Iain Burnside - InsomniaJohn Bishoff - Audio CombinePhilip Blackburn - Ghostly PalmsJohn Cage - Etudes AustralesJohn Cage - Sonatas & InterludesEdison Denisov - Au Plus Haut Des CieuxBarbara Monk Feldman - The Northern ShoreMichael Finnisy - Second & Third QuartetsHans Werner Henze - In Lieblicher BlaueAnnea Lockwood - In Our NameAnthony Pateras - Collected Works 2002-2012Katharina Rosenberger - TexturenSkogen - Ist Gefallen In Den SchneeFrances White - In The Library Of DreamsJoanna Wozny - As In A Mirror, Darkly
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha irl hipstars i knew (jordan knows them too no judgement) rlly like this jeremih record & didnt like him previously. i think it v literally comes down to the album art
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
new graphic designer = new audience
yeah but that constantly happens -- pop artist is popular, slowly spreads to different audiences, including late pass hipsters
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
yah im not really arguing or anything
― D-40, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's all good
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
Is BBC the first list to have Roman Reloaded?
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
it was on the Spin list too
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
DeRo's list is weird--didn't he give the Frank Ocean a middling review on the radio show last summer? Still, kinda happy to see Aimee Mann on a list, since it probably won't make my top 10.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 December 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
this thread is too huge now for me to find julio's beautifully prescient comment abt dylan/the wire, but reading my copy of the mag this morning, this made LOL:
"Has Dylan's voice ever sounded better?" - David Keenan on Tempest
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
Still think Dylan sounds a bit like Louis Armstrong on bits of the new album.
Not sure if anyone's actually linked to the BBC list so here it is, complete with out-of-the-blue Dexy's choice at #3:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2012/12/bbc_music_top_25_albums_of_2012.html
Also that's... quite a list of voters. Feels a bit weird to see past and present ILXers in there with Tim Westwood and Skream.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link
Also Britishes, was that Emili Sande album massive from the get-go or did she get an enormous post-Olympics bounce?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
that dexys album is not very good.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link
Emili Sande strikes me as the ultimate Jools Holland fodder
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
the empirical evidence of my 10-year-old niece loving emeli sande since long before the olympics suggests that she's always been a bit massive.
― Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
she's currently flogging mobile phones in some lame cinema advert, also (sande that is, not merdeyeux's niece)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm... The Kendrick album is very good, but judging from a lot of these lists you'd think it was the only hip hop album released in 2012.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
2012 is the first year of the century that neither Jay-Z nor Kanye has released an album, so a new token rap pick was urgently needed.
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Emeli Sandé's debut single was one of 2011's biggest even if a complete red herring for the boring-ass (but no more so than Adele) album
Any hip-hop lists that don't acknowledge Angel Haze are not to be trusted tbh. Kendrick's good though, could be worse
Xp the good music album though?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
I honestly don't feel like Cruel Summer qwas significantly worse than Watch The Throne and prob better than My Beautiful Stupid Fantasy. I jam Mercy and Clique in a satisfyingly mindless way
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
The Angel Haze album is let down by too many slow and emo tracks, it starts to drag madly by the end. Wish there was a bit more balance.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
Still dunno why Americans pronounce it "click" though
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link
Angel Haze's emo deep thoughts are precisely what make her ~important~
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but Cruel Summer wasn't a Kanye solo album in even the way Watch The Throne was
"Clique" got old fast, kind of a secretly crappy song.
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
Well she could do with framing those thoughts better, the album starts to feel mad repetitive in the final third.
BTW has anyone done an edit of Jungle Fever with the first third removed?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link
Btw have you heardthe song Angel Haze did with Rudimental?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
I keep meaning to listen to it but haven't actually got round to it? Is it any good?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yes!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, December 7, 2012 2:57 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so many tracks you can vibe out to at 2am with your laptop ;)
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, December 7, 2012 2:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, total opposite of "Mercy", which I immediately rolled my eyes at but turned out to be a secretly really good song
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
so many tracks you can vibe out to at 2am with your laptop ;)― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:59 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:59 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ooooooohhhhhh.... zing!
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
no, because Angel Haze talks about real shit in discomfiting detail, rather than drawing on a vague, cichéd and ultimately meaningless ~melancholy~
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, something like her "Cleaning Out My Closet" is the kind of thing that the 2am laptop crew and their comfort blankets of reverb literally do not know how to deal with
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
haven't music journalists always stayed up past their bedtimes slaving over a hot laptop/computer monitor/typewriter though? what's changed? (serious q)
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
probably harvest my best crops in the 2am zone tbh
got my laptop connected to a monitor though, no flies on me
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
I dug the first Angel Haze mixtape that Lex raved about in 2010 maybe? But haven't liked this year's stuff bar one or two tracks.
Glad to see First Aid Kit make a couple of lists.
― pandemic, Friday, 7 December 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
night time is a nice time for listening to music, never up till 2am though unless i'm out of the house.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
i generally eat a banana for breakfast, if you wanted any more banal routine facts.
have to say i'm also getting increasingly frustrated with this pervasive hazy indistinct shoegazery sound that's become so ubiquitous across the music spectrum in recent times. i love heaven or las vegas and loveless as much as anyone, but i also like SOLID sounds damnit. so often these reverby washy effects sound like they've just been thrown on in post-production to cover up sub-par musicianship. kevin shields spent a hell of a long time perfecting his sound, toying with feedback and guitar effects to achieve it. somehow i feel that shoving everything through a distortion module on your laptop is missing the point.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
i'm struggling to think of many examples of things that came out this year that weren't swathed in some excessive amounts of reverb, flange, delay, chorus etc... something cleanly-produced, clipped even, like (just for example) an early Talking Heads number. i don't mean back to basics - i'm not a production luddite at all; but applying these fx in such a haphazard way until they "sound cool" is such a tiring and trying way to produce music.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
Lex, it's funny hearing you talk about "important" music because perceived "importance" is precisely why Frank Ocean and Kendrick are getting all the attention that strikes you as annoyingly disproportionate and I wouldn't be surprised if Angel's first official album benefits critically in exactly the same way next year.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
Bleep albums of the yearLegowelt - The Paranormal Soul Robert Hood - Motor: Nighttime World 3 Daphni - JIAOLONG Nathan Fake - Steam Days Lukid - Lonely At The Top Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes Grizzly Bear - Shields Tame Impala - Lonerism Tim Hecker & Daniel Lopatin - Instrumental TouristActress - R.I.P.
Bleep reissues of the yearVarious Artists - Personal Space Various Artists - Filtered Various Artists - The Minimal Wave Tapes: Volume Two Various Artists - TREVOR JACKSON presents METAL DANCE Ike Yard - S/T Various Artists - Only 4 U: The Sound Of Cajmere & Cajual Records 1992-2012 Can - The Lost Tapes Nite Jewel - Good Evening Cults Percussion Ensemble - Cults Percussion Ensemble
― Neil S, Friday, 7 December 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
Holy crap, "Ocear Roar" is MASSIVE
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 7 December 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
FACT Magazine - Albums 2012
1. KENDRICK LAMAR - GOOD KID, M.A.A.D. CITY2. LEE GAMBLE - DIVERSIONS 1994-1996 / DUTCH TVASHAR PLUMES3. COOLY G - PLAYIN’ ME4. HORRID RED - CELESTIAL JOY5. SPACEGHOSTPURRP - GOD OF BLACK6. HOW TO DRESS WELL - TOTAL LOSS7. JAM CITY - CLASSICAL CURVES8. TERRENCE DIXON - FROM THE FAR FUTURE PT.29. SWANS - THE SEER10. WOLFGANG VOIGT - RÜCKVERZAUBERUNG 611. Actress - R.I.P.12. Jeremih - Late Nights with Jeremih13. Madteo - Noi No14. Julia Holter - Ekstasis15. Sand Circles - Motor City16. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange17. I:Cube - "M" Megamix18. Wiley - It's All Fun & Games19. Lana Del Rey - Born to Die20. Silent Servant - Negative Fascination21. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful22. Future - Pluto23. Heroin in Tahiti - Death Surf24. The Internet - Purple Naked Ladies25. Main Attrakionz - Bossalinis & Fooliyones26. Grimes - Visions27. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch28. Ariel Pink & R. Stevie Moore - Ku Klux Glam29. Ricardo Villalobos - Dependent and Happy30. Supreme Cuts - Whispers in the Dark31. Nas - Life is Good32. D'eon - Music for Keyboards vol.133. Altered Natives - Tenement Yard vol.334. Lorenzo Senni - Quantum Jelly35. Young Smoke - Space Zone36. Gunplay - Bogota Rich: The Prequel37. Le1f - Dark York38. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream39. Black Breath - Sentenced to Life40. Bat for Lashes - The Haunted Man41. Cocaine 80s - Express 0G EP42. Schoolboy Q - Habits and Contradictions43. Carter Tutti Void - Transverse44. Triad God - NXB45. Robert Aiki Aubrey Lowe - Timon Irnok Manta46. Purity Ring - Shrine47. The XX - Coexist48. Haleek Maul - Oxyconteen49. Helm - Impossible Symmetry50. Bigg Jus - Machines That Make Civilization Fun
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like i need to clarify that i had NO INPUT WHATSOEVER into that fucking dreadful list
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link