not that anyone will be around to fact check this but i get the sense that LTTP will pop up on many more "half-decade" or w/e lists than it did on EOY lists. i think it's starting to get its due as people start to pay more attention to dawn and realize that diddy was doing dark r&b obsessed w/ sade years before any of these clowns
idk sadly i don't really see anyone on the LTTP train who didn't love it at the time - diddy is STILL treated as a joke by the critical consensus, you rarely even see LTTP discussed or referred to (glaring in an era when its concerns and sounds should make it far more of a thing than it is). in a weird way i think what (again, relatively little) praise dawn has garnered is almost despite her diddy connections.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, I just realized that the Compilation for a Cat bandcamp is empty :(
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'd agree with Lex really, I think Dawn is gaining a rep as people forget that she was in that diddy girl group.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Clash magazinehttp://www.clashmusic.com/features/the-top-40-albums-of-2012
1. BOBBY WOMACK The Bravest Man In The Universe (XL Recordings)2. ALT-J An Awesome Wave (INFECTIOUS MUSIC)3. FRANK OCEAN ‘Channel ORANGE’ (MERCURY)4. DEATH GRIPS ‘The Money Store’ (EPIC)5. GRIMES ‘Visions’ (4AD)6. EDWARD SHARPE AND THE MAGNETIC ZEROS ‘Here’ (VAGRANT/ROUGH TRADE)7. FLYING LOTUS ‘Until The Quiet Comes’ (WARP)8. DJANGO DJANGO ‘Django Django’ (BECAUSE MUSIC)9. BETH JEANS HOUGHTON AND THE HOOVES OF DESTINY ‘Yours Truly, Cellophane Nose’ (MUTE)10. GRIZZLY BEAR ‘Shields’ (WARP)11. JACK WHITE ‘Blunderbuss’ (XL Records)12. GANG COLOURS ‘The Keychain Collection’ (BROWNSWOOD)13. TAME IMPALA ‘Lonerism’ (MODULAR)14. KENDRICK LAMAR ‘good kid, m.A.A.d city’ (AFTERMATH / INTERSCOPE)15. KINDNESS ‘World, You Need A Change Of Mind’ (FEMALE ENERGY/POLYDOR)16. NENEH CHERRY AND THE THING ‘The Cherry Thing’ (SMALLTOWN SUPERSOUND)17. THE XX ‘Coexist’ (XL)18. THE WEEKND ‘Trilogy’ (ISLAND)19. THE MACCABEES ‘Given To The Wild’ (POLYDOR)20. EFTERKLANG ‘Piramida’ (4AD)21. ANIMAL COLLECTIVE ‘Centipede Hz’ (DOMINO)22. SWANS ‘The Seer’ (YOUNG GOD)23. LIARS ‘WIXIX’ (MUTE)24. POLIÇA ‘Give You The Ghost’ (MEMPHIS INDUSTRIES)25. JIMMY CLIFF ‘Rebirth’ (ISLAND)26. SHACKLETON ‘Music For the Quiet Hour’ (WOE TO THE SEPTIC HEART)27. PERFUME GENIUS ‘Put Ur Back N 2 It’ (MATADOR)28. MATTHEW DEAR ‘Beams’ (GHOSTLY INTERNATIONAL)29. CHROMATICS ‘Kill For Love’ (ITALIANS DO IT BETTER)30. MICACHU AND THE SHAPES ‘Never’ (Rough Trade)31. ACTRESS ‘R.I.P.’ (HONEST JONS)32. DZ DEATHRAYS ‘Bloodstreams’ (HASSLE)33. JAKE BUGG ‘Jake Bugg’ (MERCURY)34. MARCONI UNION ‘Different Colours’ (JUST MUSIC)35. THE VACCINES ‘Come Of Age’ (COLUMBIA)36. JULIA HOLTER ‘Ekstasis’ (IGetRVNG)37. BRETON ‘Other People’s Problems’ (FATCAT)38. YEASAYER ‘Fragrant World’ (MUTE)39. THE SHINS ‘Port Of Morrow’ (Columbia)40. Willis Earl Beal ‘Acoustmatic Sorcery’ (XL)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
How many lists have both Death Grips albums?
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i think most people steadfastly refuse to believe dawn and kalenna had any agency in it to begin with
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
Exactly - glorified back-up singers.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
That Clash list has the worst case of one album too late that I've ever seen.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't seen any Dawn press that has downplayed or sneak dissed D-DM -- Danity Kane on the other hand
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
it's an odd situation because on the one hand it's the peg for covering her at all, on the other it's a peg that affords her attention but not necessarily respect
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
also a lot of this is skewed by so much of her coverage coming from US
Eww, this Edward Sharpe album is not nice at all.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
More Fact:http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/03/the-50-best-albums-of-2012/32/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
one of my most open-minded and pop-loving IRL music friends asked me if i was joking around when i put LTTP on my year-end list
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
that jeremih mixtape may be the most inexplicably over-praised of 2012, even in a year when frank ocean and the weeknd existed. wtf do hipsters love about it so much? SO NOTHINGY.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
stop acting a sucker with that H-word shit
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
it's just R&B you don't like, and that's OK
ppl who rep for that jeremih mixtape are not what i'd call "hipsters"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Hipster party?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
That Silent Servant album is terrific btw, DJP might like that one. One of the guys from Sandwell District, creepy late-night tube carriage sort of ambience.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
In case anyone is still paying attention to the Guardian's endless rollout, their #7 is that Alt-J album. Never heard it myself.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
it's a load of willy wee.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
I gave it a spin a couple months ago after I'd determined it wasn't some witch house shit (that name, oy!). I'll give it this...it doesn't really sound like much of anything else that's out right now. However, just because that's the case doesn't mean it's all that great.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
As a card carrying hipster, dues fully paid, I'd like to defend that Jeremih tape. Or at least Rosa Acosta.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
what a token hipster video chick choice
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
I was just about to say "hipster is a category only ever applied to other people" but Josiah has gone and contradicted that, in any case, fairly banal statement.
― Neil S, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
Specifically other people who like OMG SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT things to oneself.
What you gonna hate on next, Adorn? Miguel = Hipster Music.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I like "Breezeblocks" from Alt-J, but the album devolved really quickly into some sub-Dave Matthews shit, complete with the strained ballad singing and "world music" signifiers that actually aren't.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
Silent Servant is FANTASTIC btw, holy shit
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:27 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
disagree tbh lol
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of funny to me to read breathless "zomg it's techno-meets-noise!" descriptions as if 80s/90s industrial dance never happened, though; this really reminds me of a quieter, dubby version of the Doubting Thomas album from 1991
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yay! Really goes off at about track 4.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Curious what DJP would think of Ugandan Methods, or Kareem. Check it.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
Rev said this already but R&B/urban music is pretty hipsterish these days in general -- if you're listening to more than 4 R&B albums/mixtapes a year and checking for stuff like Jeremih then i'm going to class you as an R&B fan and nevermind to that other self-hating cultural anxiety horseshit.
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters like R&B it is tru
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
I was at a chicken wing sports bar last night and the jukebox had the goddamn Weeknd.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters like chicken wings it is tru
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
they eat the wings with forks and knives
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
i said this earlier this mo. but i think im ok w/ going back to calling ppl 'hipsters'
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
the era of 'cmon who still says hipsters' is over, imo
do you credit Taylor Swift for this development
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
thing is even things that WERE certifiably 'hipster R&B' a year ago like Weeknd/Ocean are now topping album sales and radio airplay charts and getting Grammy noms so hanging onto that idea is pointless no matter how you use it
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
what up my hipsta
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Noted British hipsters: Funkystepz, contributed a few Weeknd remixes this year.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
basically calling anyone a hipster in earnest is just a way of calling someone a dickhead that makes you look like a bigger dickhead imo
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:24 AM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
r&b fans becoming hipsters doesnt mean hipsters stop existing they are just more inclusive
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:25 AM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
see thats been the prevailing logic but i think maybe its time for a retrenchment of anti hipster sentiment
it's what they DON'T rep for that's more telling. basically you can call them any synonym for dickhead you want, but if the only r&b you rep for is the slow sad dude shit (and lolbass remixes), i see u
t-swift feels me!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
cosign silent servant love - DJP you should check out some sandwell district!