T.I. ain't gonna win with critics this time around either way
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
state vs radric davis was released dec 2009 iirc, i'd say it hurt gucci's hipster buzz. also, chief keef's album is coming out dec 18th
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Last Train To Paris took more than a year to grow to its current critical stature, don't think it would've mattered that much if it dropped in June (although i voted for it at the time ha)
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
among who? what is its current critical stature? all i know is a bunch of ilxors love it, haven't heard much else. if anything it was hurt by being released same time as mbdtf
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to that Heatsick EP again on my way out tonight and I'd forgotten about the terrible sub-Calvin Harris singing on the second track. Still enjoyed it though. Steve!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
There's singing? Somehow I blocked that out too...
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
lol it's true: loving Last Train to Paris has drawn more wtf reactions from non-ILX friends than any record I've championed in the last few years.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunately it's not sub-Clifford Harris singing.
xpost
― Andy K, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not saying LTTP's rep has grown tons -- but i think the Dawn Richard EP will appear (or maybe already has) on more lists this year than it ever did, and that speaks volumes
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
mmm yeah ok i feel you
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
If Last Train To Paris had been released earlier it would have been number 2 on my albums of 2010 list rather than number 3.
I dopn't know that its general critical stature has grown, maybe more a case of people who loved it at the time now shifting the dialogue towards it being a "lost" classic. That shift will definitely help its longterm rep.
What Dawn has done since definitely feeds into that, but has she appeared on any lists other than Guardian and Gorilla vs Bear?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, let's do some of this thing:
Wire Magazine - Avant Rock A-Z
Aluk Todolo - Occult RockOren Ambarchi - Raga Ooty/Nilgiri PlateauOren Ambarchi - Sagittarian DomainJessica Bailiff - At The Turned-Down Jagged Rim Of The SkyCrazy Spirit - s/tRichard Dawson - Magic BridgeFushitsusha - Mabushii Itazura Na InoriHowling Hex - Wilson Semiconductorsthe One Ensemble - OriolePeople of the North - Steep FormationsSwans - The SeerAlexander Tucker - Third MouthAlexander Turnquist - Like Sunburned SnowflakesTwo Wings - Love's SpringRichard Youngs - Amaranthine
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
Have no idea who half of those artists are. Anyone know what the Richard Youngs is like?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Magazine - Critical Beats A-Z
Blacksmif - And The Sun Rose OutBoddika - Acid JacksonChunky - RuggedCoki - OnboardFunkystepz - JiggaJME - 96 FuckriesLorca - Love Like This (Lorca Refix)Mr Mitch - Super FreakPsychemagik - Valley of Paradise (Time & Space Machine Remix)Randomer - We Laugh, We ScreamMyth Rychards - Rock Rock The SpotSBTRKT - Hold On (Sisi Bakbak Remix)Shy One - Aztec BwoySilkie & Swindle - UnlimitedVisionist - Control This
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
I heard that One Ensemble album is ace but can't verify that for myself.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
^ all Joe Muggs picks btw xp
Oren Ambarchi ones are great if you like Ben Frost-style tense and menacing guitar soundscapes
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
Richard Youngs releases have confused me this year cos there's been a few of them. I've heard both Core To The Brave and Rurtain which are both excellent and very much on the noisier side of things. Think I missed Amaranthine. Is it vinyl only or something?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'd heard CttB and Rurtain as well, Amaranthine completely passed me by...turns out it even got a Pitchfork review, and there's a couple of tracks streaming here: https://soundcloud.com/miemusic/sets/richard-youngs-amaranthine
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Magazine - Electronica A-Z
Bee Mask - Unripe PearsCarter Tutti Void - TransverseVladislav Delay - EspooDiamond Version - EP1Fay - DinMark Fell - Sentielle Objectif ActualitéRussell Haswell - FactualHeatsick - DeviationRobert Hood - Motor: Nighttime World 3Khan Kurra - World View EPKonx-Om-Pax - Regional SurrealismLukid - Lonely At The TopMonolake - GhostsNHK'Koyxen - Dance Classics Vol 1Andy Stott - Luxury Problems
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Magazine - Hiphop A-Z
Chief Keef - Back From The DeadFuture - PlutoGucci Mane - Trap BackGunplay - Bogota Rich: The PrequelKa - Grief PedigreeKing Louie - Val VenisKendrick Lamar - good kid, mAAd cityStarlito - Post Traumatic StressTy Dolla $ign & Joe Moses - WHOOP!Shy Glizzy - Law
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
Have been enjoying that Bee Mask album today.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
emil.y will be chuffed to know that the Telescopes made Byron's Size Matters list
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Wire - Outer Limits A-Z
Stephen Cornford - Binatone GalaxyAngharad Davies/Tisha Mukarji/Dimitra Lazaridou-Chatzigoga - OutwashAaron Dillaway - Modern JesterKevin Drumm - ReliefHelm - Impossible SymmetryEli Keszler - Catching NetThomas Koner - Novaya ZemlyaJason Lescalleet - Songs About NothingPerispirit - Spiritual Church MovementMichael Pisaro & Toshiya Tsunoda - CrosshatchesVanessa Rossetto - Exotic ExitFloris Vanhoof - Cycles of ConfusionBen Vida - esstends-esstends-esstendsJohn Wall & Mark Durgan - John Wall & Mark DurganNate Young - Regression Vol 3: Other Days
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Dusted have started their EOY features (they don't have a big best-of list, just individual writers' lists): http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/category/38
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
Aluk Todolo album is great, Sean
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
who did the hip-hop list for the Wire, Noz?
― it just might not jive with you (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
I like "Modern Jester," but I wish I liked it MORE. Nothing compares to "Chain Shot," basically.
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
I need to scope out those Nate Young regression discs
Seriously if I get an iTunes GC for Xmas it's gone in a blink
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
that looks like a Noz list alright. Never heard of Shy Glizzy tho
― Number None, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
The Wire hip-hop list is by Noz and Jack Law.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
i'd like to see a lot more of Ka's Grief Pedigree on these lists
― alpine static, Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
Glad to see that Aluk Todolo showing up, its a fantastic record. Black metal krautrock.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
not that anyone will be around to fact check this but i get the sense that LTTP will pop up on many more "half-decade" or w/e lists than it did on EOY lists. i think it's starting to get its due as people start to pay more attention to dawn and realize that diddy was doing dark r&b obsessed w/ sade years before any of these clowns
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
by people you mean "us" right
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
nah it has resonated beyond ilx
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Thursday, 6 December 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
well, I also included critics but if artists have noticed then awesome.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
hang on the song "springsteen" or the artist springsteen? the former is awesome, had no idea the latter was still active or alive or whatever
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:16 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Was this confirmed as a prankpost?
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
what is a "prankpost" smh
"springsteen" is such a great song though, it's basically like a male version of t-swift's "tim mcgraw" (which as we all know is the finest song ever written by anyone, like, ever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gGXlW6wSY
sucker for any song with the lyric "funny how a melody sounds like a memory" in the chorus
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT! I heard it once earlier this year on...Paul Gambaccccccccini's Radio 2 Saturday night US chart show, had been trying to remember it ever since. Boss tune.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link
idk sadly i don't really see anyone on the LTTP train who didn't love it at the time - diddy is STILL treated as a joke by the critical consensus, you rarely even see LTTP discussed or referred to (glaring in an era when its concerns and sounds should make it far more of a thing than it is). in a weird way i think what (again, relatively little) praise dawn has garnered is almost despite her diddy connections.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, I just realized that the Compilation for a Cat bandcamp is empty :(
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'd agree with Lex really, I think Dawn is gaining a rep as people forget that she was in that diddy girl group.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Clash magazinehttp://www.clashmusic.com/features/the-top-40-albums-of-2012
1. BOBBY WOMACK The Bravest Man In The Universe (XL Recordings)2. ALT-J An Awesome Wave (INFECTIOUS MUSIC)3. FRANK OCEAN ‘Channel ORANGE’ (MERCURY)4. DEATH GRIPS ‘The Money Store’ (EPIC)5. GRIMES ‘Visions’ (4AD)6. EDWARD SHARPE AND THE MAGNETIC ZEROS ‘Here’ (VAGRANT/ROUGH TRADE)7. FLYING LOTUS ‘Until The Quiet Comes’ (WARP)8. DJANGO DJANGO ‘Django Django’ (BECAUSE MUSIC)9. BETH JEANS HOUGHTON AND THE HOOVES OF DESTINY ‘Yours Truly, Cellophane Nose’ (MUTE)10. GRIZZLY BEAR ‘Shields’ (WARP)11. JACK WHITE ‘Blunderbuss’ (XL Records)12. GANG COLOURS ‘The Keychain Collection’ (BROWNSWOOD)13. TAME IMPALA ‘Lonerism’ (MODULAR)14. KENDRICK LAMAR ‘good kid, m.A.A.d city’ (AFTERMATH / INTERSCOPE)15. KINDNESS ‘World, You Need A Change Of Mind’ (FEMALE ENERGY/POLYDOR)16. NENEH CHERRY AND THE THING ‘The Cherry Thing’ (SMALLTOWN SUPERSOUND)17. THE XX ‘Coexist’ (XL)18. THE WEEKND ‘Trilogy’ (ISLAND)19. THE MACCABEES ‘Given To The Wild’ (POLYDOR)20. EFTERKLANG ‘Piramida’ (4AD)21. ANIMAL COLLECTIVE ‘Centipede Hz’ (DOMINO)22. SWANS ‘The Seer’ (YOUNG GOD)23. LIARS ‘WIXIX’ (MUTE)24. POLIÇA ‘Give You The Ghost’ (MEMPHIS INDUSTRIES)25. JIMMY CLIFF ‘Rebirth’ (ISLAND)26. SHACKLETON ‘Music For the Quiet Hour’ (WOE TO THE SEPTIC HEART)27. PERFUME GENIUS ‘Put Ur Back N 2 It’ (MATADOR)28. MATTHEW DEAR ‘Beams’ (GHOSTLY INTERNATIONAL)29. CHROMATICS ‘Kill For Love’ (ITALIANS DO IT BETTER)30. MICACHU AND THE SHAPES ‘Never’ (Rough Trade)31. ACTRESS ‘R.I.P.’ (HONEST JONS)32. DZ DEATHRAYS ‘Bloodstreams’ (HASSLE)33. JAKE BUGG ‘Jake Bugg’ (MERCURY)34. MARCONI UNION ‘Different Colours’ (JUST MUSIC)35. THE VACCINES ‘Come Of Age’ (COLUMBIA)36. JULIA HOLTER ‘Ekstasis’ (IGetRVNG)37. BRETON ‘Other People’s Problems’ (FATCAT)38. YEASAYER ‘Fragrant World’ (MUTE)39. THE SHINS ‘Port Of Morrow’ (Columbia)40. Willis Earl Beal ‘Acoustmatic Sorcery’ (XL)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
How many lists have both Death Grips albums?
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i think most people steadfastly refuse to believe dawn and kalenna had any agency in it to begin with
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
Exactly - glorified back-up singers.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
That Clash list has the worst case of one album too late that I've ever seen.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't seen any Dawn press that has downplayed or sneak dissed D-DM -- Danity Kane on the other hand
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
it's an odd situation because on the one hand it's the peg for covering her at all, on the other it's a peg that affords her attention but not necessarily respect
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
also a lot of this is skewed by so much of her coverage coming from US