Year-End Critics' Polls 2012

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make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

We spent a bunch

Rolling Stone know their demographic and goddamit they're going to pander to them.
--Deafening silence (DL)

How would this read if it was Kendrick

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

I mean if you read these threads, every mag is either "pandering" or "trying to be ______" or "trying to hard" with their number one choice. I think Springsteen is a fine choice for an RS list

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

hang on the song "springsteen" or the artist springsteen? the former is awesome, had no idea the latter was still active or alive or whatever

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

Springsteen actually died in 1992, this is a Tupac style remix album.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

People like the Gaslight Anthem and former members of REM and Michael Franti providing backing tracks for his vocals.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

Did RS release its full list?

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

TS: dadrock pandering vs contempt for the actual tastes/opinions of yr readers

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

the Eric Church song is def way better than anything Springsteen did this year, but i would never expect Rolling Stone to acknowledge that

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

RS top 4 is Bruce, Frank, Jack and Bob

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Then there's Fiona Apple, Kendrick, Edward Sharpe, Green Day, Japandroids, Neil Young

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

What about Neil?

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

I heard his horse went crazy

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

standing by the Green Day shitshow is more embarrassing than all the senior citizens on that list combined

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

did they pick just one album for the list or all 3?

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

Think it's just the first one

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

xpost It's not picking a Springsteen album that's the problem. It's that it's not all that great a Springsteen album.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

xp Depends on whether or not you think this is a great Springsteen album.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

are you kidding, of course it isn't!

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

That's my point, though Whiney seems to think otherwise.

For me "pandering" is the difference between RS/Uncut recognising a veteran at his late-period best and just honouring him because he's a veteran.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

Okay it is just ¡Uno! according to some Green Day forum

Someone had the full list there btw

1. Wrecking Ball - Bruce Springsteen
2. Channel Orange - Frank Ocean
3. Blunderbuss - Jack White
4. Tempest - Bob Dylan
5. The Idler Wheel... - Fiona Apple
6. good kid, m.A.A.d city - Kendrick Lamar
7. Here - Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros
8. !Uno! - Green Day
9. Celebration Rock - Japandroids
10. Psychedelic Pill - Neil Young and Crazy Horse
11. Babel - Mumford & Sons
12. Rebirth - Jimmy Cliff
13. Old Ideas - Leonard Cohen
14. The Only Place - Best Coast
15. Locked Down - Dr. John
16. Sun - Cat Power
17. Born and Raised - John Mayer
18. Life is Good - Nas
19. Mirage Rock - Band of Heroes
20. R.A.P. Music - Killer Mike
21. Attack on Memory - Cloud Nothings
22. Slipstream - Bonnie Raitt
23. A Thing Called Divine Fits - Divine Fits
24. Cruel Summer - G.O.O.D. Music
25. Sunken Condos - Donald Fagen
26. Django Django - Django Django
27. Blak and Blu - Gary Clark Jr.
28. Bloom - Beach House
29. Away From the World - Dave Matthews Band
30. 1991 - Azealia Banks
31. Red - Taylor Swift
32. Hospitality - Hospitality
33. Visions - Grime
34. Boys & Girls - Alabama Shakes
35. Shields - Grizzly Bear
36. The Bravest Man in the Universe - Bobby Womack
37. Nothing's Gonna Change the Way You Feel About Me Now - Justin Townes Earl
38. Local Business - Titus Andronicus
39. Gossamer - Passion Pit
40. Escort - Escort
41. The Carpenter - The Avett Brothers
42. Europe - Allo Darlin'
43. Some Nights - fun.
44. Not Your Kind of People - Garbage
45. Rich Forever - Rick Ross
46. The 2nd Law - Muse
47. Agnostic Hymns and Stoner Fables - Todd Snider
48. Oceania - The Smashing Pumpkins
49. Folila - Amadou and Mariam
50. Swing Lo Magellan - Dirty Projectors

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

haha someone else gets the Cruel Summer gasface

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

No Lame Impala in there afaics

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

I like the idea of Band of Heroes. Are they some Tea Party answer to Band of Horses?

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

nice to see Grime on a 2012 list, didn't know if that stuff was still being made

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

No XX or ZZ on that list either

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

30. 1991 - Azealia Banks

this is a four-track EP, one song of which was her big 2011 hit. how in the world is this being classed alongside albums.

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

Still super curious about that Dr John album

in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

The next installment of the Fact list is up and starts here if anyone cares:
http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/03/the-50-best-albums-of-2012/22/

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

eh if an EP has more than 3 songs i think it's fair game for album lists

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

lol i think there are maybe 3 albums in the entire fact list so far i rate, and a great deal that i hate

also finding out that the price i pay for getting excited about so many of my favs making it into the guardian's 40-11 is being underwhelmed by the top 10

i siiiiiigh

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

The Wire list has landed:

1. Laurel Halo - Quarantine
2. Sun Araw & M Geddes Gengras meet the Congos - Icon Give Thank
3. Actress - RIP
4. Jakob Ullmann - Fremde Zeit - Addendum
5. Jason Lescalleet - Songs About Nothing
6. CC Hennix & The Chora(s)san Time-Court Mirage - Live at the Grimm Museum 1
7. Bob Dylan - Tempest
8. Julia Holter - Ekstasis
9. Carter Tutti Void - Transverse
10. Ricardo Villalobos - Dependent and Happy
11. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch
12. Josephine Foster - Blood Rushing
13. Fushitsusha - Mabushii Itazura Na Inori
14. Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi - Imikuzushi
15. Death Grips - The Money Store
16. Emptyset - Medium
17. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful
18. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems
19. V/A - Wandelweiser und so Weiter
20. Morton Feldman - Crippled Symmetry: At June in Buffalo
21. Richard Skelton - Verse of Birds
22. The Bohman Brothers - Back on the Streets
23. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city
24. Michael Pisaro and Toshiya Tsunoda - Crosshatches
25. Bass Clef - Reeling Skullways
26. Aaron Dilloway - Modern Jester
27. Killer Mike - RAP Music
28. Shackleton - The Drawbar Organ/Music for the Quiet Hour
29. Rhodri Davies - Wound Response
30. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Mature Themes
31. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers
32. Thomas Koner - Novaya Zemlya
33. Annea Lockwood - In our Name
34. Earth - Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light II
35. Lee Gamble - Diversions 1994-1996
36. Heatsick - Deviation
37. Duane Pitre - Feel Free
38. Raime - Quarter Turns over a Living Line
39. Swans - The Seer
40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh
41. Cooly G - Playin' Me
42. Traxman - Da Mind of Traxman
43. DJ Rashad - Teklife Vol. 1: Welcome to the Chi
44. Charles Gayle Trio - Streets
45. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
46. Pye Corner Audio - Sleep Games
47. Peter Cusack - Sounds from Dangerous Places
48. Pelt - Effigy
49. DVA - Pretty Ugly
50. Brotzmann/Satoh/Moriyama - Yatagarasu

a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

eh if an EP has more than 3 songs i think it's fair game for album lists

16 minutes long? barely over 10 minutes of new (to this year) material? i think 6 is the minimum of (normal length) tracks i'd want before classing it alongside an album.

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha that Passion Pit album is terrible

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

11. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch

wow, review copies way in advance for the whole staff?

18. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems

hurrah

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think it really matters if a record's lead single came out the year before either! that happens all the time!

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

the music being by Azealia Banks is a much bigger issue

RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

Is Rolling Stone the only publication to have rated the Nas album so far? I'm aware I probably like it more than most people here but I thought it would placed in more publications even as a token pick.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

it's in the fact list

it's alright, wouldn't be in my list but it's a lot better than a lot of stuff that is ending up in these lists

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

It seems both Heatsick and Helm released albums this year I knew nothing about the existence of. Bah.

emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

The Heatsick one is an EP, I think. It's pretty good!

a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Re: The Wire

Surprised at the high Dylan placing. Surprised by the low Swans placing.

Guess it's not a surprise, but happy to see

14. Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi - Imikuzushi

getting a mention, it's killer-diller.

And does anybody know anything about this? Totally passed me by -

40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for posting the Wire list! Top ten for Bob Dylan is the biggest surprise on there for me, but then I haven't heard it or read any reviews of it so there you go.

The Heatsick record is good fun! Have tried the Helm one a few times but it's never really stuck with me.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh

It's just a 12" with a remix on the B-side. A-side is a pretty good Senegalese Mbalax track with relatively light production tricks.

Here we go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rPIzyKkuNs

a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

The Wire also has a big reissues list - top 5 is Laurie Spiegel/Can/Pauline Oliveros/Don Cherry/AR Kane - and the usual genre lists, but I'll let someone else type those out...

a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

That reminds me, it's been a bit disappointing to see no mention of the Shangaan Shake album so far. xp

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Wait a second, according to my calculations, Josephine Foster and Six Organs of Admittance have both made it to exactly one list?
I have some questions regarding critical abandonment.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

one list each, not the same list
Wire and some dad mag iirc?

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

Nice to find out Annea Lockwood released something this year, but I'm going to back to it later. Definitely not morning listening (nor would I expect it to be).

redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

FACT's top twenty reissues (there's actually forty but i got tired)

20: LAURIE SPIEGEL - THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE (UNSEEN WORLDS)
19: PYROLATOR - AUSLAND (BUREAU B)
18: PARRIS MITCHELL - ‘ALL NIGHT LONG’ (WICKED BASS)
17: DAVID LYNCH & ALAN R. SPLET - ERASERHEAD (SACRED BONES)
16: DREXCIYA - JOURNEY OF THE DEEP SEA DWELLER II / JOURNEY OF THE DEEP SEA DWELLER III (CLONE CLASSIC CUTS)
15: VARIOUS ARTISTS - STRANGE PASSION: EXPLORATIONS IN IRISH POST-PUNK DIY AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1980-1983 (CACHE CACHE / FINDERS KEEPERS)
14: STERAC - SECRET LIFE OF MACHINES: REMASTERED AND REMIXED (100% PURE)
13: ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER - RIFTS (SOFTWARE)
12: THE BURRELL BROTHERS - THE NU GROOVE YEARS: 1988-1992 (RUSH HOUR)
11: CODEINE - WHEN I SEE THE SUN (NUMERO GROUP)
10: RAEKWON - ONLY BUILT 4 CUBAN LINX: THE PURPLE TAPE (GET ON DOWN)
09: BOB CHANCE - IT’S BROKEN (TRUNK)
08: KW GRIFF FEAT. PORKCHOP - ‘BRING IN THE KATZ’ (NIGHT SLUGS)
07: PAPERCLIP PEOPLE / PSYCHE/BFC - THE SECRET TAPES OF DR EICH / ELEMENTS (PLANET E)
06: CLEANERS FROM VENUS - BOX SET VOL. 1 (CAPTURED TRACKS)
05: LEGO FEET - LEGO FEET (SKAM)
04: SLEEP - DOPESMOKER (SOUTHERN LORD)
03: RUFF SQWAD - WHITE LABEL CLASSICS (NO HATS NO HOODS)
02: FRANCIS BEBEY - AFRICAN ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1975-1982 (BORN BAD)
01: MONOTON - MONOTONPRODUKT07 (DESIRE)

Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link


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