I really wanted to enjoy the Spoek Mathambo album more than I did, but it was just a bit too clunky. His first one was more electronic-leaning but ultimately more satisfying.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
^^
Yeah, the Spoek album is really frustrating. There are certainly some flashes of brilliance on it, but very few of the songs pull together in the ways I wish they would. I still think he is capable of dropping a mind-blowing album on us though.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
Am I the only person who dug the Project Undark Radium Girls 2011 stuff?I guess the lack of response means that yes, yes I am.― emil.y, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:13 AM
I guess the lack of response means that yes, yes I am.
― emil.y, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:13 AM
It's not easily streamable, but I did find a Vimeo clip. Does it ever turn into something else, or is it continually just puttering around?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
xpost yeah, he's def one to watch.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
is it right for me to moan about the marginalisation of metal/harder-edged rock and noise music on these lists? even the most supposedly eclectic publications seem to ignore the heavier end of the spectrum which is a massive shame considering the same fans of, say Liars, could easily love some of the (hate to use the term but here we go) post-metal stuff like UFOmammut and Om etc. Sometimes it feels like metal-genres are the final frontier for a lot of indie-type publications that have come round to embracing pop and r'n'b in the last few years.
My theory is that a lot of folks don't realize there can be a happy medium between extreme metal/noise subgenres and Nickelback. So there's audiences/critics who can't quite get into black metal, grindcore, sludge, but think all other heavy rock, psych and metal is . . . redundant? Irrelevant? I guess I'm not the one to explain it, as that's what I like to listen to 90% of the time lately. I don't see how anyone couldn't appreciate, say, the amazing guitar tones of Colour Haze just as much as, say, the boring drones found in parts of the more highly acclaimed Swans and Godspeed! You Black Emperor albums. And yeah, I'm hoping the likes of Quietus, Rock-A-Rolla and Terrorizer at least don't sleep on the Ufomammut.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
damn gorilla vs bear taking a bold stand against frank ocean
― J0rdan S., Monday, December 3, 2012 11:14 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a lot of pubs are doing this right? i.e. spin taking a brave stand against Grimes
"THIS is the thing lots of people like that we will call people SHEEP for falling for"
its probably not very good strategy, ppl are even resurrecting Salem these days
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
ooh is it time for the witch house revival, is it is it
because i always had a soft spot for that
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
i say 'probably not a very good strategy' from a business standpoint btw, im fully in favor of pubs doing it tho. kinda dramatic lol
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Does it ever turn into something else, or is it continually just puttering around?
Uh. Well, I wouldn't describe it as "puttering around" at any point. It's pretty minimalist and non song-oriented, sure, but everything's placed there entirely deliberately.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
My theory is that a lot of folks don't realize there can be a happy medium between extreme metal/noise subgenres and Nickelback. So there's audiences/critics who can't quite get into black metal, grindcore, sludge, but think all other heavy rock, psych and metal is . . . redundant? Irrelevant? I guess I'm not the one to explain it, as that's what I like to listen to 90% of the time lately. I don't see how anyone couldn't appreciate, say, the amazing guitar tones of Colour Haze just as much as, say, the boring drones found in parts of the more highly acclaimed Swans and Godspeed! You Black Emperor albums. And yeah, I'm hoping the likes of Quietus, Rock-A-Rolla and Terrorizer at least don't sleep on the Ufomammut.― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's surprising actually that there isn't more metal on these general lists, especially following last year's Liturgy farce (or maybe that shitty band is responsible for turning people OFF metal? just a thought), and the surprising amount of metal and hardcore on the lineup at Primavera this year (the acts I enjoyed most this year were all in the punk and metal vein)...
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
Ha ha, they were like, yeah, let's stop pretending to like black metal!
xp Re: Spoek Mathambo Yeah if Mshini Wam was supposed to be his Controversy, Father Creeper is no 1999.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:44 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so going out of your way to include every record appearing on every other publications list is the noble and right thing to do, leaving anything out is a deliberate, arrogant statement? c'mon man
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
It was tough to judge on a clip that wasn't even 4 minutes long, so I didn't know.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol i was joking about gorilla vs bear
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
wish we knew more about the methodology of each publications' list, ie which are editorially-driven (ie have an agenda behind them) and which are just the result of totting up various votes (in which case accusing them of "snubbing" any artist would be silly)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
i find the former method slightly sinister, tbh
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah of course not (i mean, read my follow-up post) but there's a line somewhere, I mean, we've talked about genre specialist mags before & the advantage they have
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
idk, anything this unnuanced is nagl BUT there's the converse, which is people pointing to "everyone else" liking something as PROOF of its objective quality, and if you dissent you're just accused of being contrarian for the sake of it
and then there's also that thing where a ton of people/"tastemakers" in the music industry - no one on ilm but i'm sure we all know the type - ARE just unimaginative follow-fashions who need an artist/album to have multiple cosigns from their peers before it's "ok" to like
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Looking at all these lists as someone who listened to a lot less music than usual this year -- and therefore has no opinion about a lot of stuff on them -- the whole process of tastemaking gets more objectively interesting. Just the way consensus builds or doesn't build around Album X vs. Album Y. E.g., the discussion above about why one Animal Collective or TVOTR album is Album of the Year, and another not-necessarily-lesser album a few years later barely merits a mention. We all know these things happen, that there are patterns of enthusiasm and so forth, and while we all tend to exempt our own tastes from those kinds of forces -- because we just listen to the music! -- of course so do all of those other people we're accusing of some kind of herd behavior.
Anyway, it's just interesting to look at the EOY lists without having much sense of personal investment. Trying to puzzle out the backstory in the data points.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
Ishmael Wadada Leo Smith & Louis Moholo-Moholo Ancestors (TUM)
Get the impression Leo Smith is doing a shedload these days (not that he wasn't but its noticeable but I notice and I'm not really watching it that closely). Really mad I missed him at Bishopsgate last month.
The one that intrigues me is John Butcher and Eddie Prevost - no idea what those two really quite different players would sound like together. Always had an idea that Eddie would only ever work within AMM.
lol@ the idea jazz is some old man pipe and slippers thrash. Student thinking.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
PASTE Top EPs of 2012: http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2012/12/the-10-best-eps-of-2012.html
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
there's an implied "I LIKE TO EAT" at the beginning of their name, right
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Paste continues to be dreadful, maybe even moreso as an online-only entity.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, D-40 stumbled across SPIN's clever strategy of "not just copying what pitchfork and stereogum likes and put our name on it" dude is cracking the indie rock DaVinci code over here
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
#IndieGuilt
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha i love at least one of those 1975 songs
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
definitely feel like joe goddard's come into his own over the past year production-wise - "gabriel", yes, also his remixes of delilah's "love you so" and especially jessie ware's "night light", which is just a flawless and astonishing thing
LOL I think I posted the Nneka remix a while back and you refused to listen on principle!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
the 1975 are the shit... tho the slow down was much better name
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
xp heh yeah raised an eyebrow at that fanution myself
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
xp on which principle?! i have no opinion on nneka and if i've listened to every dreary hot chip album i doubt i'd have refused to listen to a remix
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
oh no no no you are wrong about the 1975 noooooo stop being wrooooooong
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
hmm i really thought you'd dig the 1975
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
that reads like a parody of a lex post
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really hear it with the 1975.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
basically I never want to hear any 21st century musical act or project named after a year from the 20th century
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
didn't predict myself that lex would love a more emo arctic monkeys
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
anyway "sex" is a killer song, rest of that ep is kind of mushy and indistinct tho
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
"sex" & "the city" are instant classics
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
careful use of quotations...and tenses ... blah bad joke
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
This is the point in list making that I hate, where suddenly impossible choices have to made. Deciding to leave Ariel Pink out of my top ten was hard enough, now I'm figuring out whether lightning bolt, Oneida, Dial, or Meek Mill gets the shaft on my albums list
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
not Meek
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
It's like "which finger should I sever?"
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I know
I almost chucked him but couldn't
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
you sever the pinkie on the hand with 6 fingers.
― abanana, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Lightning bolt released stuff this year? I haven't got round to listening to earthly delights yet. I loved the two before thAt. Has their sound changed much since then?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
FACT put Gunplay's Bogota Rich on their albums list so well done them
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i prefer 601 but that's still a good look
― these markers love soda (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
FACT list is the best so far imo
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, LB
consolation prize is that "I Found A Ring In My Ear" gets a spot on the tracks list because it RULES
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
OOR (Dutch magazine):
1. ALT- J - AN AWESOME WAVE (INFECTIOUS/PIAS)2. JACK WHITE - BLUNDERBLUSS (XL/BEGGARS)3. FRANK OCEAN - CHANNEL ORANGE (DEF JAM/UNIVERSAL)4. CLOUD NOTHINGS - ATTACK ON MEMORY (WICHITA/PIAS)5. THE XX - COEXIST (XL/BEGGARS)6. TAME IMPALA - LONERISM (MODULAR/NEWS)7. DJANGO DJANGO - DJANGO DJANGO (BECAUSE/WARNER)8. GRIZZLY BEAR - SHIELDS (WARP/V2)9. ALABAMA SHAKES - BOYS & GIRLS (ROUGH TRADE/KONKURRENT)10. KENDRICK LAMAR - GOOD KID, M.A.A.D. CITY (INTERSCOPE/UNIVERSAL)11. METZ - METZ (SUB POP/KONKURRENT)12. MOSS - ORNAMENTS (EXCELSIOR/V2)13. CHROMATICS - KILL FOR LOVE (NEWS)14. JAKE BUGG - JAKE BUGG (MERCURY/ UNIVERSAL)15. FIRST AID KIT - THE LION’S ROAR (WICHITA/PIAS)16. BEACH HOUSE - BLOOM (BELLA UNION/V2)17. DR JOHN - LOCKED DOWN (NONESUCH/WARNER)18. BLAUDZUN - HEAVY FLOWERS (V2)19. TY SEGALL - TWINS (DRAG CITY/MUNICH/V2)20. ALLAH-LAS - ALLAH-LAS (INNOVATIVE LEISURE/V2)21. MICHAEL KIWANUKA - HOME AGAIN (POLYDOR/UNIVERSAL)22. CASE MAYFIELD - THE MANY COLORED BEAST (PIAS)23. THE VACCINES - COME OF AGE (COLUMBIA/SONY)24. SWANS - THE SEER (YOUNG GOD/KONKURRENT)25. MARK LANEGAN BAND - BLUES FUNERAL (4AD/BEGGARS)
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link