especially "Rock the Boat"! and it's a really poor usage of the sample to boot
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
'flo jam' got on my wick too at first but then in its ubiquity it grew on me somewhat. blawan was late as shit too anyway
the list is kind of a melange of best-of-year-in-the-field and what-was-generally-hot in response to mt so eh
'every day' is the dope dusky cut but interzone bubblage is wasted here
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
I think this is the year I finally stopped caring what was popular in London.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
Except perhaps as part of a larger dance community worldwide, the Anglophilia has burned itself out.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
bully for you, old chap
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
;-)
you DID say you read FACT though, didn't you?
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
In other year I would have loved the Talabot album but I have had a shit year and it is too happy for me right now.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:52 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is like when lex was saying it was an e'd up wonderland, idgi. all i heard was like lush ominous melancholy iirc broadly speaking
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
x-post Yes I do, but increasingly I just glance at it and shake my head.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
i get and understand the "Flo Jam" criticism but still feel that it was a better vessel for an Aliyaah sample than most with its creeping nocturnal pitch dark feel
love even more Ramon Tapia & Sandy Huner's "Slick" featuring a screwed "Got to Give It Up" sample though i don't expect anyone to co-sign, chugging workaday tech-house is not exactly big round these parts (not that it gets much respect elsewhere either!)
― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
have to do a bunch of genre lists for my paper and i'm totally out of my depth w/ doing a top 10 dance tracks list -- props to anyone who can point me out to an easy way to sample a lot of stuff quickly (like a spotify playlist or something), otherwise i will prob turn in a list that's all "Gangnam Style" and Skrillex
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
blawan was late as shit too anyway
eh, there's no way Blawan can claim firsties, but at the time "Getting Me Down" dropped, it still felt like there were many ways to do something like that and make it fresh, but that time has passed. at any rate, it helped that he had a much more distinctive rhythmic approach to support it than these house tracks we're talking about here.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah right ur a "rhythm guy" how could you let me forget for a second
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
could i remind you to get off my dick for a second, too?
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
hmm roberto rodriguez is finnish. *texts tuomas*
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
one cool thing about the deep house-assisted finalization of the tasteful r&b canon is that Ashanti got in too it seems
― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
xps not to get overly into the etymology of dickriding but uh surely mine own is the only one i'm on here
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
X-post to Some Dude, there's a house/techno bobbins spotify list if that's the kind of thing your looking for.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
I liked some Disclosure and Eats Everything. Mostly I just check out things on the UKG interzone bubbler thread. I am not one of you.
― redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
xxp what
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
well man how can i be on your dick if we're in disagreement
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
spotify:user:elishasessions:playlist:6APVLsWZdZyiHdCrkkfw3h
I don't know how to do this.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think agreement is a requirement to be on someone's jock. It's more about the presumed familiarity, I'd say.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/timeout.gif
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
hmm
guess my love life just got a whole lot simpler
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
i made a v incomplete spotify playlist w/ stuff itt i could find.
its collaborative so if ppl want to add to it please do
http://open.spotify.com/user/max_read/playlist/12RpgeiGUBoHoqFNQRFAYC
― max, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
nice! will look for the one josiah referenced too.
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
You should be able to just copy that line into your browser. Works for Chrome at least.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 1:18 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My sense is that, for some people post-dubstep's belated discovery of R&B samples felt fresh, and for some people it was like "duh, took you long enough to work that out, it's been a thing everywhere else forver", and for the people in the first camp, by the beginning of 2012 it was like "enough already for this trick that will forever and always be associated with 2010 in my head" and for people in the second camp it was like "well objecting to this wouldn't be too different to objecting to divas or kickdrums, so..."
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
I think that post Dubstep mostly came to the RnB sampling by way of rediscovering its roots in 2step.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoeB82x5yrc
Of course if you were listening to 2step the whole time, like you were Tim, this must have been a painfully slow process.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
no one else got love for ital tek?
such a gorgeous ear for melody on that album
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
― Tim F, Monday, December 3, 2012 6:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, maybe it's just that being very invested in post-dubstep at that time, it seemed like EVERYONE in that genre was using r&b samples like that and it was cool for a while but then reached a breaking point, while in e.g. house, their use was spread out a bit more and the genre was never at any point as dependent on them, which created less of an opportunity for burnout? I still think that "Getting Me Down" had a weird sense of swing that set it apart even from other post-dubstep tho.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
my eoy picks:
jackinBrett Bdot Walters & Lorenzo - Money Cant Buy ItLinkoban - Like This (Tom Shorterz Remix)Stikkylips & Lorenzo - Naughty Good GirlDouble Trouble & Lorenzo - DrugsDonkie Punch - Snapbacks n TattoosHannah Wants & Lorenzo - None a ThemNick Hannam & Tom Garnett feat. Tom Zanetti - You Want MeBurkie feat. Delilah - GoTom Shorterz - Morning AlkalineBrett Bdot Walters & Lorenzo - Im in ChainsPete Graham & Lorenzo - Man CubScotty Boy & Lorenzo - No DiggityDaft Jack & Lorenzo - Come On (Bass Bin Fix)Hannah Wants & Lorenzo - Oochie BangBilly Kenny & Chris Greswell - Diamond RingsSleepin Is Cheatin - What a NightCause & Affect feat. Mr Limey - Audio ErotiqueStikkylips & Lorenzo - I Want YouLegitimate Scandal - Fugee LaIll Phil & Lorenzo - Horny
otherWiley feat. Ms D - Heatwave (DEVolution Remix)Cleo Sol - Never the Right Time (DEVolution Remix)A1 Bassline - DaftBryan Jones - Thinking About YouDisclosure feat. Ria Ritchie - ControlDJ Dan - Reckless GurlKeith & Supabeatz - The Most Beautiful (Todd Edwards Remix)Tensnake feat. Syron - MainlineJames Silk - Can't WaitHot Natured feat. Ali Love - Forward Motion (MK Reverse Mix)S.K.A.M. - I Got What You Need (Shadow Child Freakmix)Dillon - Abrupt Clarity (Catz n Dogz Remix)Shanay Holmes - Worth the Wait (Preditah Remix)Tulisa - Sight of You (TS7 Remix)Madeon - The CityJay Shepheard - Fuzzy BorderLittle Nikki - Intro Intro (DJ Q Remix)Celsius - Must Be YouDemarkus Lewis - Came InsideLauer - Trainman (Tensnake Tranceman Mix)
― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
Hot List
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
must investigate this lorenzo character
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
tx Tim!
in e.g. house, their use was spread out a bit more and the genre was never at any point as dependent on them
this is true of uk garage but not deep/non-mersh house: before 2012 it was just a here and there thing, now almost every other hip dh release has a Brandy or an Aaliyah vocal sample... as i said i don't mind it so far, but i sure as hell won't feel insatied when it's all over soon
― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
Getting Me Down did have a weird sense of swing, its nowhere near as dependent on 2-step revivalism or Burial mimicry as a lot of that music was.
Felt new, and I think he's proven that he's not a one trick pony at this point.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
what about labels like bnr trax and marble players? doesn't anybody else like that stuff?
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:51 (eleven years ago) link
damn this playlist rules
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:52 (eleven years ago) link
some bnr trax on spotify: destructo technology, baskerville priam / 3317 paris, dj pierre acid / jack da groove, maelstrom catharsis pt. 1, djedjotronic walk with me, les petits pilous drop it, bs1 rust, surtek collective shari / vary, more i think
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
i love love LOVE this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX2NsrAbYo0
― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
Is that little melody running through "Maybe Tonight" (that comes in at around 3:20 on the Instrumental version) an intentional borrowing from Linda Rondstadt's "You're No Good"? I mean, it's not exact, but it kind of jumps out at me.
― redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
thanks to everyone who recommended that terrence dixon record, it is something
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I've meant to get around to it for a while. Not really sure to what to make of it so far.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
it's definitely a dense listen, but in the right setting or with the right mindset it is p striking
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:43 (eleven years ago) link
Albums/EPs
Scuba - PersonalityLorn - Ask the DustDimlite - AbscissionPatrice & Friends - Champagne SaunasThe Gaslamp Killer - BreakthroughTwo Fingers - Stunt RhythmsOnra – Deep in the NightBeaumont - Never Love MeMatthew Dear - Beams
Tracks/Singles
Hackman - Forgotten NotesTotal Science & S.P.Y ft. Riya & DaM FunK - Piano FunkLenzman ft. Riya - How Did I Let You Go?SpectraSoul ft. Terri Walker - Light in the DarkKrystal Klear & Olivier Day Soul - Never Thought You Would GoMarcus Visionary ft. Macka B – Never LeaveJubei ft. Flowdan - Say NothinDub Phizix ft. Fox - Never BeenJamie Grind - A Night in DetroitMorgan Zarate - Broken Heart CollectorSarah Williams White - Your Silence Is Killing MeNosaj Thing ft. Kazu Makino – Eclipse/BlueAddison Groove - I Go Boom (DJ Rashad Remix)Lockah - The Sour Drink From the Ocean (Pictureplane Remix)Harmonic 313 - Lion
― cock chirea, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:57 (eleven years ago) link
all i heard was like lush ominous melancholy iirc broadly speaking
agree totally, think this discussion was had at the time about talabot. haven't played it since the week it came out, i'm finding that sound, as i hear more of it, a bit emotionally overbearing at the expense of beats or complexity.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:48 (eleven years ago) link
Going back to Tim's point - it's kind of weird because dance sounds are all over the charts and commercial dance has completely eaten pop, R&B and to an extent rap. But garden variety commercial dance is kind of in a pop-that-isn't-that-popular holding pattern at the moment, and yr standard issue Rihanna or Flo Rida bangers fulfil that High Street club function in more or less the same way anyway.
ILM in general seems to acknowledge commercial dance more when the underground and the high street are closer together (as they were broadly between 1999 and 2002), and they've miles apart for the last few years. They're getting a bit closer together now, mind.
It's kinda difficult to judge though because ILM was much smaller and more dilettantish in the time period I'm talking about.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
And of course the dance press in general has mad form for looking the other way when things actually become popular, look at FACT trying really hard to pretend that Katy B's album didn't exist last year.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:11 (eleven years ago) link