Year-End Critics' Polls 2012

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The beats on the Lone album are definitely highly syncopated, but they don't strike me as particularly random

Moodles, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

The time signatures of the drums/percussion seem to be absolutely random much of the time. That's probably not true, but they're more complex than I feel like bothering with. xp

you have got to be kidding

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even like "I Belong In Your Arms," but the Talabot remix is the best remix I've heard this year.

childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Feeling kinda bad for Animal Collective.

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Is Sharon Von Etten making a lot of lists?

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

fewer than Grimes but more than like Kathleen Edwards

alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

#ladies

alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

I really live Sharon Von Etten, but I think the new one is mostly boring. I don't feel like she needs to be catering to the Paste crowd.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost

Damn shame, as that Kathleen Edwards record is solid.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Animal Collective really blew it this time, huh? They haven't even enjoyed any of the post-breakthrough momentum that disappointing follow-ups often get (hello The xx).

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, MPP was "post-breakthrough" like three albums deep

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

idk, I think its fair to call MPP another level of breakthough, i mean like NPR audience level breakthrough

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

The beats on the Lone album are definitely highly syncopated, but they don't strike me as particularly random

It's cool, I'm not a rhythm ace. I just don't find that kind of madhouse dodging of 4/4 too enjoyable.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

xp How so? It got way more attention and sales than any of their previous albums.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

It's cool, I'm not a rhythm ace. I just don't find that kind of madhouse dodging of 4/4 too enjoyable.

THERE IS NO DODGING OF 4/4 ON THE ALBUM, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SONG IS IN 4/4

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Uncut sure loves the hell out of Ty Segall, with three of his albums in their list. I agree with Spin that Twins is the best one. When I first heard his name a few years ago, I that he was a rapper, lol.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

AnCo "broke through" in like 2004. They used that momentum to break through higher and higher places (like NPR) over the course of two or three more albums over half a decade of work

The XX hit paydirt first time out and now are following up on it. The analogy doesn't work

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, DJP. Fine. Whatever. It still makes me squirm and want to put on, like, AC/DC or something so I know that up is up and down is down.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

is whiney doing his leftfield/noisy shit list this year y/n?

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

ty segall name always makes me want to start a woozy britronica group called SEAGULL I THANK YOU.

cuz those kinds of names are popular these days.

scott seward, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

xpost y

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

good man!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

new sad borad description:

"Feeling kinda bad for Animal Collective."

scott seward, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

xp Do I need to spell it out? The career paths are not the same but the situation of following a big-selling, widely acclaimed, NPR-wooing indie album with a muted, poorly received one three years later is similar. I'm not going to waste time arguing about what does and doesn't count as a breakthrough.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

... Coexist wasn't poorly received, unless you are just looking at a small subset of the critical reaction?

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

You apparently had to spell it ot because I had no idea that you meant that. Neither one of those records was especially "poorly recieved" though

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, Coexist is currently rating a 79 on Metacritic, how does that translate to "poorly received"?

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

MPP reached a lot of people who were never going to be into Centipede Hz, I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists.

a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

because we have Grimes now...

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

<b>GRIMES</b>

is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

i def got the impression that coexist had a lukewarm reception (not just here but among UK critics) but perhaps not

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

it had a lukewarm reception on ilx iirc

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol yeah, and then everyone else gave it an 8

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

That Spin list is pretty good. It's just occurred to me I have no idea what Japandroids sound like at all.

The strongest songs on that Santigold album were great but the record as an entirety was kind of an uninspiring 6/10 and I'm surprised enough people rated it highly enough to vote it into the top 10 in any list. I can't imagine it inspiring sufficient love or hate really.

Matt DC, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

I pretty much adore the entire Santigold album and don't get why people hate any of the songs on it.

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

It's not hate (as least not in my case). It's just..."oh, that's nice". Matt DC otm with uninspiring.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

i don't get the (muted) enthusiasm for japandroids (there and elsewhere i've seen), i haven't been able to get into that album. i think it's retroactive praise for people who missed praising their first album.

j., Monday, 3 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

every song being "oh that's nice" as opposed to controversial or hot --> long term critical success

mh, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Any Irish polls been announced yet? Be interesting to see how Frank O'Shane has gone down in the old country with his collection of loyalist ballads.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I had high expectations for the Japandroids LP. I'm psyched that people are into it because I think they deserve their success, but IMO the energy on the 2010 singles and the 2009 full-length seemed a lot more genuine.

billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

or more natural, and less labored...

billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

no one is liking the new titus andronicus album? did it get any chatter on ilx?

Mordy, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

xp Like seandalai says: "I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists." MPP was a P&J-winning album that got rave reviews across the board - CHz, without being an obvious dud, is hardly registering a mention. Something similar happened to TVOTR last year and I see it happening to a lesser extent with the xx. Metacritic doesn't tell you much because there are a lot of over-generous critics out there and if you're a certain kind of band you have to deliver a real turkey to get less than 70.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

IMO CHz is way better than Dear Science.

billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

SPIN has a section called "Worst New Music."

billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

no, 'nine kinds of light' (?) would be the analogue.

j., Monday, 3 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, exactly. Using P&J as a very rough measure of EOY consensus, Dear Science was #1 and Nine Types was #43.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I didn't really care about Dear Science or Nine Kinds of Light. I especially don't understand Dear Science getting P&J/SPIN "album of the year" back in the day.. While "Centipede Hz" I think is simply getting forgotten for being less-than-outstanding even though it's full of well executed ideas.

billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Any noteworthy singles/tracks lists floating around?

billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

Popmatters started their 'best songs of 2012' list today.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link


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