Scott Walker "Bish Bosch"

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there were no moors in the fifth century

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17387-bish-bosch/

oh, but that's just a joke, right? it's almost like this review proves the other side of the argument it's trying to make about artistic and intellectual ambition

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

i deeply dislike the 'reviewer voice' tone of that kind of music writing

ゑ (clouds), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

that's one nasty 8.0 review. jesus.

circa1916, Monday, 3 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

all you need to know about that reviewer is that he thinks scott walker is the david lynch of music

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

who would have thought Pitchfork would have written an awful review of this, really
this doesn't read like "8.0" at all

frogbs, Monday, 3 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

is 69 middle-aged in pitchfork-land? does that website even have any editors?

mr. pitchfork's thoughts on scott walker and the avant-garde remind me of a tea partier talking about barack obama and socialism

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

He's essentially going for an Emperor's New Clothes approach here, but makes a really bad case for it. There is hyperbole surrounding Walker and this release, true, and often he gets pedestalised as this purely original, utterly unique musician with a single vision and blahblah... But I don't think even his greatest fans would argue he doesn't have a huge number of influences guiding him, from Brel to Sibelius to, well, I bet the guy listens to hip-hop - all the old troll-codgers do. So this "don't be fooled by this faux avant garde bollocks" stance doesn't hold water because while he might not comfortably fit into that category, there's no one on the current "pop" landscape using these influences and taking these risks.

I can imagine the 8.0 marking was an editorial decision.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

lol haven't read the review yet but powell's one of the great regular pitchfork dudes, guy navigates complicated reactions to things better than almost anyone i can think of on staff right now (tim would be the other that comes immediately to mind). his review of the philip glass remix thing is one of the best i've read recently

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

if that's the best pitchfork can do these days, oh boy

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Why has the Graun reviewed this twice?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:29 (eleven years ago) link

Petridis' is the Guardian review, Kitty Empire's is the Observer one.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 08:50 (eleven years ago) link

When I was up in Scotland I noticed this got reviewed (fairly positively too) in the Daily Record, that's the Scottish equivalent of the Mirror - that 60s crooner fame is awfully persistent.

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

OK wait this is actually in US stores today? I thought US would lag a couple of weeks behind UK?

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

haven't listened to this yet because i had to pick between this and kesha and picked kesha

markers, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

psst psst

markers, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

goddammit so tempted to go to other music on my lunch break but that's a long-ass lunch break.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

i will go to reckless as soon as i'm not broke as fuck

ゑ (clouds), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

if anyone has mog, it's streaming on there in full.

les rallizes miserables (get bent), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Can't bear to stream this one. Need full spectrum for my boy Scott.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Haven't really had the chance to listen to it yet but one thing i must say is that the packaging for this thing is just fucking tremendous, size limitations of the CD format aside. If you were thinking of skipping the physical version, DON'T DO IT!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

I have to wait till Xmas as I've asked for the vinyl... I feel like I'm about 6 y/o with all the Christmassy excitement

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://beardrock.com/reviews/scott-walker

"The centre of the album is "SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)", the closest that the album gets to traditional coherence and also it's most difficult piece - a twenty minute musical story about a time-travelling dwarf, born in the fifth century, who eventually becomes a dwarf star (the SDSS1416+13B of the title) and dies. Yep."

Flam REST, flam REST, flam REST. (zero of the signified), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

Stopped at Earwax on the way home. They sold out of the CD.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

SFJ piece in this week's New Yorker. Just snuck a read of the first page in the bathroom at work. He tells SFJ that he generally composes (after creating the lyrics) at a keyboard which translates what he's playing into score. Don't think I'd heard that before.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

... he says the same in the Wire interview. I'm not convinced by this album tbf.

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

... I mean tbh

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure where I saw this said, thought it was this thread but Ctrl-F is turning up naught, but: Lulu > Bish Bosch. And that's coming from someone that loved the previous two.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

brandon soderberg said that

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours"

Mark G, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, that's where I saw it. (xpost)

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Scott's film picks for some online streaming thing:
http://thequietus.com/articles/10918-scott-walker-curates-curzon-on-demand-film-season

Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

Had less than 10 dollars in my bank account but discovered 20 bucks credit on one of my cards last night, so hello Bish Bosch.

Just finished my first listen. This was so much greater than I dared hope. Transcendental KO. The Drift now feels like a transitional record en route to this. This may be as good as Tilt. Fuckin' A.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

Was seriously ready for disappointment.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

My copy is waiting at home.

How is it doing in the midweeks? Anyone?

Michael Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, Tilt made #27 and The Drift #51.

Michael Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

Have we discussed the fact that on the last track ('...'conducator'...') Scott plays everything himself? Not just voice + guitar as before but a whole arrangement? Stunning track.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

Here's something I'd never seen till it was mentioned in The Quietus review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q2EoduCLKYY

Was he doing someone a favor? Did they throw money at him? Did he do it for fun?

dan selzer, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know the story behind it but I do know that, even at the time, it seemed like a coup to get him to do it.

Michael Jones, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Currently collecting the more substantial interviews (Guardian, Pfork, Quietus) into a single PDF cause I'm a fuckin' dork like that...

Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

'Wire' as well.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah that I'll be buying.

Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

I'm loving this. Second listen today.

I'm not loving the drum sounds.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

did scott walker fart

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

are those farts real or autotuned?

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

this album is like the worst ever btw, like if I were to spend 10 mins making a fake scott walker album it would prob sound like this not trying to big myself up or anything btw

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

ixiiivixvvi

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

We should have done a precover of this one.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

Now he says it.

Mark G, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

:-(

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link


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