teengirl fantasy, miracles club, mi ami, 100% silk and the rise of HIPSTER HOUSE: S/D

yea i didn't really feel like starting a 'holly herndon' thread so i brought it up here. i guess mostly because she embodies that experimental music / house music dichotomy. but loads of music does that so w/e

we should make a thread where we can talk about newer east coast stuff on labels like rvng or l.i.e.s. or even (to tempt fate) pittsburgh track authority

i made a future times thread but it never really caught on

i wonder would jamal moss fit in that thread too?

I almost brought this up before but figured it'd open a can of worms and maybe I'd get shit for it, but maybe I can coin another genre (if you recall I'm partially responsible for "beardo") and suggest simply post-house. To me, it makes a lot of sense. As something of a post-punk expert, I'm often explaining the obvious and less obvious sources of that term, generally you're talking about people coming out of punk and pushing it's envelope with these other influences (disco, funk, dub, krautrock, prog mostly), but the term later came to also describe acts that existed along with punk, and even before it. So wrap your brain around a concept like calling Pere Ubu or Television "post-punk" when, in an earlier and more obvious history, they are bands that helped invent punk, but in hindsight and in consideration of the "sound" of punk and the associations of post-punk, that makes sense.

So....post-house describes people coming out of conventional dance contexts and bringing in other influences (noise, krautrock/cosmische) etc, or acts coming from other genres into dance music and bringing their baggage. Now this brings up another discussion, which goes back to the beginnings of this thread, about authenticity (in sound). Someone coming out of post-punk/indie-rock or whatever making dance music that easily slotted into the mainstream of underground dance music, even while bending the form a little bit, wouldn't necessarily fit, but if they don't slot in easily, either because they're not competent enough to perfectly emulate chicago/detroit/etc(which is not a bad thing!) or because they bring something else to the table altogether different, then they do.

So a lot of the nu-disco stuff of the 2000s for instance, I wouldn't call "post-house" because they were producers reworking/reintroducing past dance forms...stretching the envelope a bit at times, reviving sounds, mixing up styles etc, but not breaking the mold.

Of course a lot of the stuff we've discussed in this thread fit that idea. I haven't heard enough of it all and don't like naming names anyway, and we discussed this when the thread started, but there's people emulating in a purely revival sound, and there's stuff that is something else alltogether...often they're the same labels, the same people, even the same 12", so who wants to bother breaking all that down.

Am I making any sense or is that just stupid? It makes sense to me. Of course we can all say "why bother trying to label anything, man" but you know what, it's fun and some of us get off on these kinds of discussions and if you don't, you can ignore or disagree but don't bother saying "don't label us bro" because you're gonna get labeled and maybe it's best to own it. In any case, a term like Post-House, as in post-punk, is not a value judgement but an understanding of shifts and trends.

I'm sorry, I don't really care this much, just rambling on putting off doing some other stuff, like making some post-house.

and let me beat anyone to the punch by saying, I've got your Post-House right here...

http://ncwportal.com/media/jpg/photo/2005/grant/2005_outside_ephrata_post_office

if you recall I'm partially responsible for "beardo"

new name up for grabs

beardo (tm)

'Post house' makes sense, especially when applied to Ital. TLG - i agree it's strange I should be making these complaints as an IDM head, but somehow I have trouble mapping this stuff onto the same values as Warp-style artists. This record is shamblingly scruffy in every way - sometimes it stumbles into the sublime, but more often keels over into incompetency. Most of the time it walks this tightrope over both of them.
In a way I guess this guy is approaching noise music from a dance perspective, a bit like Black Dice have more recently doing vice versa.
But I'm just having trouble parsing it - I should like it on these terms, but there's just something unpleasant and sickly, maybe something about the overall frequency of the record (lots of grainy midrange) that I seem to have an aversion to.

live right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoSsnOAtNyE#!

Teengirl Fantasy live tonight at the Brooklyn Museum of Art. Also the hipster disco band Midnight Magic and the hipster DJ Dan Selzer. Also custom nail art inspired by work in the museum. Sponsored by hipster online "radio" station VIva Radio.

http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/calendar/event/6274

That reminds me, this track:

https://soundcloud.com/100percentsilk/pharaohs-miraculous-feet

I dig some of the Pharaohs stuff. I think one ep on ESP? Speaking of which, my favorite new school house/techno dude somewhat of this ilk is Young Marco. Maybe I mentioned that already. 2 12"s I think on ESP, he's the house designer for Rush Hour I think? His stuff has that pretty techno vibe I love.

Oh yeah, that Young Marco mix is really great from the mixes thread.

Yeah it's amazing. The Boiler Room set is cool too.

This has been my retro house jam recently:

https://soundcloud.com/brutal-music-1/justin-velor-back-to-the

(Longer album version on Spotify is even better)

the coyote cleanup album is pretty good, silk fans. stream here:

http://www.dummymag.com/new-music/2013/05/01/coyote-clean-up-2-hot-2-wait-album-stream/

new octo octa streaming : D

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feed-item.aspx?id=64162

Really enjoyed the Pharaohs album while walking home from work in the sun today.

alex burkat tarot ep is nice

http://vimeo.com/66846598

So according to that Huerco S. article, this is called Outsider House now?

(cue OutHouse jokes)

I don't quite get Huerco S. Tried to get into it and I like some of it ok but over the course of the album it just starts to sound like anonymous warehouse techno (but not danceable)

that Cosby album on 100% Silk that someone mentioned on the regular house/techno thread sounds pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r2BH9BETMg

What else should I listen to on Trilogy Tapes?

Checked out Huerco S this morning in the background, like the textures and atmosphere, but it did seem to lack dynamics.

Is this the thread where we say how great the Unicorn Hard-On album is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RccHLLOhoc8

I like Night Diamond on that release, but as much I might regret saying it, I'm not sure it really qualifies as hipster house!

yeah... imo it sounds more like post-electroclash idm? like mochipet or dj donna summer or something

you know i have to admit i quite like this new steve moore

http://soundcloud.com/stevemoore2600/nemesis

^ this is great. i waited far too long to check out the lovelock album, but it is totally great too. he has his own thread right?

very excited about the mood hut stuff mentioned upthread btw, pacific nw represent

feels like an insult to call young marco hipster house, but hey w/e i'll run with it since others are already talking him up here. this remix from last year is going for CRAZY $$$ on the discogs, it was only a run of 100 tho and i guess it's getting a repress from rush hour soon: https://soundcloud.com/#youngmarco/tony-g-simple-dreams-young

zombi has a thread, but this doesn't really sound like zombi

are we going to need a rolling ambient synth thread this year?

i definitely wouldn't be opposed to it. i like the knew age hippies thread but then i end up missing out on the darker spectrum spools-type stuff

i guess it would work in the IDM thread

Steve Moore just posted about a movie he scored:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/01/15/dan-stevens-the-guest-youre-next/

What is the IDM thread?

it's called "idm in 2014"

idm in 2014

'rolling golf channel 2014'

that channel is so boring! a thread on it would only be more so imo.

not as boring as idm in 2014 amirite

I'm down with Golf Channel IDM in 2014

i want a thread where ppl who post in this thread, balearic, and knew age just post stuff they find that they know ill like. rolling recommendations for max thread

did you like SPIKE?

max what are your thoughts on the secret circuit album

I'm down with Golf Channel IDM in 2014

Yes, this.

i liked them both!

buddy of mine with a new record coming out on 100% silk: https://soundcloud.com/100percentsilk/golden-donna-pale-dream-rider

with all the octo octa love around here, this is definitely a recommendation

https://vimeo.com/41865217

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