i've listened to it a few times, including this morning, and can't get into it at all. it's got some nice production/arrangement touches here and there but the songs don't grab me. maybe it's just me.xpost
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Aw damn n/a.. I might be having a somewhat excitable reaction to it though tbh, cos I haven't really listened too much stuff that's as in yer face as that this year.
seandalai: J Foster will make the Wire list for sure, haven't seen it elsewhere
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
She'd better make the ILM list too, or I will fix the results be sad.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
haha! will probably toss it a few points unless it gets edged out...
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
like I still haven't heard the new Lau Nau! where is it amazon you bastards
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
Where are the REAL MUSIC lists? I want REAL MUSIC. I do not tolerate MANUFACTURED MUSIC. REAL MUSIC is for men. We bring fire. We hunt. We listen to REAL MUSIC
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
Nick - if you want inyerface stuff try Divorce, for serious.
seandalai - haven't heard the Josephine Foster record, saw her live a couple of times years back and she was amazing, though, so I'll see if I can check it out before poll time.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
dang the bad plus and shigeto albums both sound great, maybe i'm just turning into Jordan
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
As for Animal Collective... I still love MPP, but I haven't heard the new one. I do tend towards wanting breadth, though, there aren't many bands I follow for entire careers, I'd rather hear a new sound or a new idea.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
I did try Divorce a while back, it's not so much in-yer-face as right-thru-yer-face-and-out-the-other-side. Thanks for the reminder!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
haha
glad you like them, i love both of those records.xp
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
Okay I have just listened to a bit more Divorce and it is like the second coming of the Stretchheads.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
fyi: moth cock is playing with unicorn hard on this month in belchertown.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds like a veritable smorgasboard of mythical wang
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
I think I like the Cooly G but it really slipped by in the background while I was workin, am giving it another go.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:45 PM Bookmark
Yeah, it's a record I want to like more than I can. It all sounds nice but it's really ignorable. Not horrible or anything but kind of a disappointment nonetheless.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
Some days I love the Cooly G and some days it can't hold my attention. Whether I vote for it in EOY will depend on what kind of day it is, I guess.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
It'll probably make the lower reaches of my ballot but it's not exactly something I'm going to evangelize about like I did when "Love Dub" dropped.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
Basically you only need "It's Serious", "Landscapes" and "Playin' Me", but the whole conceit of a drum kit having an epileptic fit on a water bed with satin sheets is good/interesting/arresting enough to lift the album well above its objective "three amazing tracks plus pleasant filler" status.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
finally a list w/ Dead Sara on it! my #2 of the year.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
My Josephine Foster radar has alerted me to this:
Has the Josephine Foster album turned up anywhere? One of the best albums of the year imo.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:06 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
You know I'll vote for it! "Geyser" is among my top 5 songs of the year and the rest of the album is great too.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
haha i knew ship would rep for this
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
Centipede is discernibly different from MPP. It's noisier, less melodic, and not as varied. Not to say it's a bad album (it's good, not great), but it's certainly one of their least pleasurable albums to listen to.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 29 November 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a little surprised that "Music For the Quiet Hour" isn't on any lists
― Dan S, Thursday, 29 November 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
I still really like MPP but Centipede seemed lacking in any kind of spark beyond a couple of tracks.
I gave the Cooly G album another try a couple of nights ago and it really clicked with me, even though it is kind of backgroundy it still benefitted from being played a lot louder.
Goat and Miguel have been the two great discoveries from this thread so far, have bought both.
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link
less reverb all over Centipede, which I'd usually count as a good thing, but the songs just suck on the whole.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
Has the Black Dice album shown up on any of these lists? Rashad?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
Shackleton & Pinch got totally shafted last year too iirc. Dunno how Shackleton would work in a club at all, ought to make more of an effort to go and see him, but he's my go-to producer for creepy midnight dog-walking music. That whole set is such a sprawling, mysterious labyrinth of a record, it's definitely paid off spending a lot of time with it.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
Fucking hell, the comments on that Guardian thread
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link
Is this for real?
Music is not just the preserve of the young, the trendy and the journalists. And undoubtedly - whatever an individuals personal preferences - there are many better releases this year than those listed, that have either been ignored or not considered "with it" enough for inclusion (or even bothering to listen to in most cases, I suspect.
As for the Morrissey quote: well this has been the case for at least 20 years: where are all the albums for the white, middle-aged, middle class, who like their artists to have some integrity and life-experience, and who like their music written and performed by those who can actually write and perform?
I expect to get ridiculed for this, but 3 of the best albums produced this year by British artists - all self-penned and performed; all appreciated by fans as a high mark in each band's career, and all thoroughly independent from modern commercialism are:
Marillion - Sounds That Can't Be MadeAnathema - Weather SystemsBig Big Train - English Electric Part 1
I don't expect any of these to figure in this top 40 - or pretty much any "top" listing of the year. Which is a shame.
These lists are pointless - take no notice!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link
where are all the albums for the white, middle-aged, middle class
where oh where
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
Dunno how Shackleton would work in a club at all
Really well. His live set is absolutely amazing. You wouldn't htink it would work in a club but live he just kills it every time
― paolo, Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
Basically you only need "It's Serious", "Landscapes" and "Playin' Me"
i don't necessarily disagree that there's a certain element of backgroundiness to the cooly g album but i totally disagree with this - if anything i think the album is stronger the more vocal-driven it is, ie "he said i said", "come into my room" etc
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not actually saying the rest of the album isn't great though quoting half my post may imply that - I probably should have said "these are the 'standout' tracks but the backgroundiness of the rest (including the vocal tracks) is something I still find really enjoyable/compelling/etc."
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
there were several pretty great dance albums in 2012. andy stott, michael mayer, voices from the lake, lindstrøm, vatican shadow, smallpeople, blondes. dunno why people didn't rally round them, they certainly should have.
cos people who like dance music listen to singles and mixes
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
do they?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
We don't need to do this again.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
lol, just trolling
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
don't worry, we won't! best to stick to waving around football scarfs emblazoned with the names of our favourite bands/vague musical causes.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
nah best to carry on posting on a music messageboard about how even expressing an opinion about music is fundamentally worthless while studiously sticking to snark and failing to say a single fucking interesting thing ever yourself
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ehow.com/way_5768019_microwave-popcorn-instructions.html
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
don't worry, we won't! best to stick to waving around football scarfs emblazoned with the names of our favourite bands/vague musical causes
This would actually be preferable to doing "Albums: Are they or aren't they irrelavent to dance music?" for the eight millionth time.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
HARDZUNG
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
see i didn't say this at all, but i know it's difficult when someone interrupts the all-caps juvenile crowing.
i didn't suggest we do this, matt.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
when your entire style is misrepresenting what others are doing it's not a good look to whine about being misrepresented yourself
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
I've only heard the lindstrom out of these, and felt pretty neutral about it, I keep forgetting about the Smallpeople album, i WILL try that later today, I also remember your voices from the lake recommendation, i should try that too, never heard of blondes or vatican shadow
there's apparently (yet another) new STL album, not heard it yet tho....i'm kinda drowning in records this year
― coal, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
bought a couple double lps just for one track recently also:/
― coal, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
i was a bit confused by vatican shadow - it's the prurient guy, right? i listened to some stuff i downloaded and it sounded like someone treading on bubblewrap for about 5 minutes. i'm assuming that's not what it's supposed to be?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
extra points for not saying an insect walking on a microphone
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
Think the thing about those albums, except Blondes/Lindstrom (and maybe Andy Stott, dunno haven't heard it), is that they aren't really going to hook in people who aren't particularly into dance music. I'd expect them to place in the RA and maybe FACT polls.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
obv i am not saying that those albums are an entire representation of dance music in 2012, which we know is track/mix-driven, but in a thread focusing on albums i felt it would be pertinent to mention a few excellent electronic full-lengths that i could imagine others enjoying
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link