Year-End Critics' Polls 2012

I can probably give you evidence to back up my claims, though.

Anyway, I was originally going to post on this thread b/c I thought someone might know where the 2012 thread equivalent of "we're halfway through 20xx - what are your favourite records?" is. I think it might have been called something slightly different but I'm obviously not searching for the right phrases...

Rolling "favorite music of 2012 so far" thread (albums and/or tracks edition)

If you're talking about "ILX" as a monolith you can provide evidence to back up almost any claim no matter how batshit.

Ah brilliant. Definitely need to refresh my memory of what was out and good earlier in the year.

xpost

I clearly wasn't saying "ilx" was a single-minded organism, otherwise how could it possibly have an "almost all" selection? Learn to read better.

emil.y OTM. it's not like ILX is some kind of alt/indie stronghold, far from it. So it would be nice to be spared the annual preaching to the choir this time round and accept that PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.

that's not aimed at anyone particular - it goes for me and my complaints upthread too.

eh the problem isn't that people like different things it's that they like bad things that are boring and everyone all likes the same bad boring things and this time of year everyone compiles it all into lists--not to say that this this complaint isn't played out, but it's not the same as PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS

Oh come on you know full well there'll be as much indie as anything else when ILX does its poll, probably more. It's not like either camp can claim to be particularly hard done by here.

Being sniffy about indie is a glorious ILM tradition that goes back to pretty much the very first thread though.

Think of it as a counterbalance to decades of indie fans claiming they're the only ones who really care about music.

xxpost So moan about the lists or individual albums being boring, don't act like some sort of genre martyr because "OMG indie rag put lots of indie in its top 10, how dare they" etc..

"almost the entirety of ilx" disses indie and loves Taylor is just absurd tea party false minority shit

xp everything is an indie rag now fyi

In fairness if I had to hazard a guess it would be that at least 80% of ILM, myself included, would self-identify as an indie kid or having been an indie kid at some point in the past, including many of the people who take the "lol indie" stance in these threads.

quite, but also most people on ILM now say they like, or at least appreciate, all kinds of music

i can't remember the last time anyone, other than some random kid googler, came along and slated pop as a genre or slagged-off a pop artist because they didn't write their own songs or didn't play guitar or whatever, all the while bigging-up some aching shitpipe of a landfill indie band.

anyway, we talk about this stuff every year as well, so not worth going into it any more now.

There's an indie lurker contingent that votes in ILX polls but Taylor Swift gets a hell of a lot more love from people who actually post than, say, the Cribs do. Lex should pop on over to the Guardian AOTY comment thread if he wants some old skool "this isn't real music" cranks to kick against.

Zombie Zombie - Rituels d'un Nouveau Monde, great so far. Tip!

The slagging off of pop is all over the Guardian albums thread, though it tends to be – I think - from those of advancing years bitter about the loss of "proper" music, or from those who can't understand why not everyone is swooning over Japanese noise or Southern Lord releases.

xpost I see Dorian is making this very point.

Taylor Swift gets about as much love as any one of a dozen current indie acts on ILM (and not whoever the Cribs are, someone with an established ILM fanbase).

"indie" is a conveniently amorphous umbrella for everyone to hide different things under, Lex aside most people using the word as an insult have a 'good indie' and a 'bad indie' in mind (and no 2 people have the same concept of what those groups encompass).

my comment was directed at all the publications whose lists we are discussing, not ilx! this is the reason i post on ilx!

and i just listened to the scott walker album

Lex likes enough more than enough indie to have that filter as well he just doesn't acknowledge its existence very often.

(hah, xpost)

true

Someone on the Guardian thread complaining that the Cooly G album has too much filler and then saying that the Chromatics is their favourite record of the year. What the hell? That album is about three years longer than it needed to be.

The authenticity bores on the Guardian thread have suddenly turned me into a passionate defender of the (pretty good, too long, occasionally facepalmy) Lana Del Rey record.

What's this year's go-to album for the comments crank with the superiority complex? Looks like Swans so far. (Not that it's Swans' fault)

i've actually been making little noises of delight every time a comment along the lines of "THIS LIST HAS LOST ITS LAST SHRED OF CREDIBILITY" pops up. guardian grumps giving me life. a repeat of last year's beyoncé/katy b outrage is prob too much to hope for, though i enjoyed the minor consternation farrah abraham caused.

It's like poptimism never happened.

"EveChang

28 November 2012 6:22 PMLink to this comment

If you want authentic real music by artists who write their own songs then your choice should be the magnificent Taylor Swift album rather than the old fart overrated garbage that are Swans."

Ha ha

lol i remember her killing it in the comments last year too! see i do <3 some of the readers

the lana del rey complaints just make me apoplectic because NO ONE CAN SPELL HER VERY SIMPLE NAME

Go tell it to Alex Petridis. Commenters don't spel 2 gud.

oh i have seen enough manglings of my surname to know that :(

John91
13 December 2011 5:49 PMLink to this comment
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Jesus Christ, clearly just put in to make the list more interesting and less predictable. I've heard the album, and it's completely banal and average. If it's the 4th best of the year then this must be music's all time worst year.
I wish I'd been around in 1967 when this top 10 would include Sgt. Pepper, Velvet Underground and Nico, Forever Changes, The Doors, Are You Experienced, Piper at the Gates of Dawn etc.

EveChang
13 December 2011 5:56 PMLink to this comment
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Response to John91, 13 December 2011 5:49 PM
Why would you want to live in the past?

eve chang also says she's a teenage girl, i hope in 5-6 years she's writing for the guardian

Get some rock up in yer rock:

http://loudwire.com/best-rock-albums-of-2012/

Loudwire 10 best rock albums:

1 Deftones - Koi No Yokan
2 Stone Sour - House Of Gold & Bones Part 1
3 Dead Sara - Dead Sara
4 Baroness - Yellow and Green
5 Halestorm - The Strange Case Of
6 Serj Tankian - Harakiri
7 Marilyn Manson - Born Villain
8 Shinedown - Amaryllis
9 Soundgarden - King Animal
10 Lacuna Coil - Dark Adrenaline

Loudwire 10 best meatl albums:

1 Between the Buried and Me - The Parallax II: Future Sequence
2 Napalm Death - Utilitarian
3 Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind
4 High on Fire - De Vermis Mysteriis
5 Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage
6 Pig Destroyer - Book Burner
7 Woods of Ypres - Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light
8 Down - Down IV, Part 1 – The Purple EP
9 Lamb of God - Resolution
10 Goatwhore - Blood for the Master

meatl is the best

That rock list, oi. http://youtu.be/OGtUD4jetUo

And that Hot Rockstar Wives piece on the sidebar, lol

the deftones and dead sara records are both great, have no idea how the rest of those records are there

but then what even is a loudwire

A slightly more user-friendly list rather than their block of cover images. Alpha order.

Q Magazine - Top 50 Albums of 2012
The 2 Bears - Be Strong
Alabama Shakes - Boys & Girls
Alt-J - An Awesome Wave
Paul Banks - Banks
Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man
Beach House - Bloom
Jake Bugg - Jake Bugg
David Byrne & St. Vincent - Love This Giant
Cat Power - Sun
Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
Daphni - Jiaolong
Lana Del Rey - Born To Die
Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan
Django Django - Django Django
Bob Dylan - Tempest
EL-P - Cancer4Cure
Field Music - Plumb
Go-Kart Mozart - On The Hot Dog Streets
Grimes - Visions
Grizzly Bear - Shields
Ren Harvieu - Through The Night
Richard Hawley - Standing At The Sky's Edge
Here We Go Magic - A Different Ship
Hot Chip - In Our Heads
Elton John Vs. Pnau - Good Morning To The Night
Josephine - Portrait
The Killers - Battle Born
Kindness - World, You Need A Change of Mind
Mark Lanegan Band - Blues Funeral
The Maccabees - Given to the Wild
Mala in Cuba - Mala in Cuba
Mumford & Sons - Babel
Muse - The 2nd Law
Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
Orbital - Wonky
Peaking Lights - Lucifer
Plan B - Ill Manors
Emeli Sande - Our Version of Events
Saint Etienne - Words And Music By Saint Etienne
School Of Seven Bells - Ghostory
Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball
Tame Impala - Lonerism
Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs - Trouble
The Vaccines - Come Of Age
Sharon Van Etten - Tramp
The Walkmen - Heaven
Jessie Ware - Devotion
Paul Weller - Sonik Kicks
Jack White - Blunderbuss
Bobby Womack - The Bravest Man In The Universe

tabs out podcast list:

#1 Bastian Void "Fluorescent Bells" (Field Hymns)
#2 V/A "Duets" compilation (Tranquility)
#3 Brett Naucke "Home By Now" (Field Studies)
#4 Grasshopper "The Day America Forgot" (SicSic)
#5 Crystal Palace "Spirit Quest" (Rotifer)
#6 Colored
Mushroom And The Medicine Rocks "Sunshine Units" (Wagon)
#7 V/A "Inscriptions" compilation (Sacred Phrases)
#8 Lace Bows "Pollen Futures" (Hooker Vision)
#9 J.D. Emmanuel "Peaceful Kingdom Concert 1982" (Sonic Meditations)
#10 Quiet Evenings / Former Selves split (Constellation Tatsu)
#11 Quintron "Singing House Demo Vol.1" (Spirit Candle)
#12 Voder Deth Squad "II" (SicSic)
#13 Jonathan James Carr "Well Tempered Ignorance" (Field Hymns)
#14 Tearist "Purple Video" (Nostilevo)
#15 Run DMT / Tracey Trance split (C.G.I.Friday)
#16 Aaron Dilloway "Tractor Cuts" (Robert & Leopold)
#17 The Aleph s/t (Tape Drift)
#18 Quicksails / Head Boggle split (Discriminate Bonus Series)
#19 Rambutan "Typhoon Shapes" (Cae-Sur-A)
#20 Mark Bradley / No Mind Meditation split (Goldtimers)
#21 Bil Vermette "Archives I" (Field Studies)
#22 Rust Worship "Deposit Of Despondency" (Tape Drift)
#23 Caldera Lakes "Live At Ogden Theatre" (Dokuro)
#24 Steve Kenney "Dawn Window" (Imminent Frequencies)
#25 Developer / Moth Cock split (A Soundesign Recording)

Moth Cock ftw!

So Animal Collective have only turned up in the Fly list so far (at #33)? Fallen are the heroes etc etc.

lol what the fuck is aquacrunk
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, November 23, 2012 12:44 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, good point. Centipede doesn't sound all that different from Merriweather to me. I guess they just move on looking for something shinier?

I think I like the Cooly G but it really slipped by in the background while I was workin, am giving it another go.

I haven't heard any of the Tabs Out list and for that am mad at myself

Centipede is good but not great