Year-End Critics' Polls 2012

i still havent heard clockwork orange but when ppl say that his debut was SO MUCH BETTER im like, wow that sloppy comp of odds & ends & him doing eagles karaoke is better than his studio album?? makes me never want to hear it

"Swim Good" by itself is better than three quarters of Agent Orange.

finding djp and alfred way otm right now about *orange rhyming dictionary*

need a new thread polling deliberate mangling options of Ocean album title

don't sleep on my channel BORING from a couple months back

"Swim Good" by itself is better than three quarters of Agent Orange.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 26, 2012 2:51 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

One song on one album is better than some but not all of the songs on another album? Case closed.

i still havent heard clockwork orange but when ppl say that his debut was SO MUCH BETTER im like, wow that sloppy comp of odds & ends & him doing eagles karaoke is better than his studio album?? makes me never want to hear it

― D-40, Monday, November 26, 2012 2:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Keep in mind that these people are dummies.

tbh I don't mind anyone loving Orange Blossom as long as they love Kaleidoscope Dream a bit more.

the big difference between nostalgia, ultra and chanel l'orange is that it's all about the third-person storytelling instead of the very first-person stuff of nos, ultra, but there's so much sympathy for these characters that it just kills me. he's not judging anyone, just presenting these often heartbreaking stories, like flipping through some reality tv shit

Kaleidoscope Dream >>> Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Channel

are first-person stuff and autobiography synonymous?

eagles karaoke is 1 of 14 tracks on nostalgia, tucked conveniently at the very end along with MGMT karaoke. i don't particularly like (or despise) either of those, and thus never listen to them ... as far as i'm concerned it's a great 11-track album with a few interludes and 8 songs that range from good to amazing.

I have a hard time understanding how that Titus Andronicus album made anyone's list.. very disappointing and I really tried to warm up to it.

are first-person stuff and autobiography synonymous?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 26, 2012 4:01 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

of course not, and obviously there is autobiographical and first-person stuff on channel orange, too, it's just that "frank ocean" becomes another character amongst the obviously not-frank ocean others, if that makes sense?

tbh I don't mind anyone loving Orange Blossom as long as they love Kaleidoscope Dream a bit more.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:57 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or speaking of filmic albums ARMOR ON ffs

of course not, and obviously there is autobiographical and first-person stuff on channel orange, too, it's just that "frank ocean" becomes another character amongst the obviously not-frank ocean others, if that makes sense?

yep -- thanks

i mean, swim good and songs 4 women and we all try and dust ... for me, that's case closed.

i like channel orange but it doesn't burrow its way into me like n,u did. i dunno. i ain't gonna be pissed when it wins P&J. it's better than that tune-yards album

also, i need to hear ARMOR ON.

you really do, it's fucking amazing

I played "Faith" one morning last week as the sun was rising and I thought fuuuuuck

tbh I don't mind anyone loving Orange Blossom as long as they love Kaleidoscope Dream a bit more.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:57 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or speaking of filmic albums ARMOR ON ffs

― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, November 26, 2012 3:03 PM Bookmark

My top three albums this year!

i still havent heard clockwork orange but when ppl say that his debut was SO MUCH BETTER im like, wow that sloppy comp of odds & ends & him doing eagles karaoke is better than his studio album?? makes me never want to hear it

― D-40, Monday, November 26, 2012 5:50 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah well this is bullshit

i agree in the sense that my favourite individual frank songs i think come from nostalgia, ultra, but channel orange works so well as an "album" that i can just put it on and sink into that world

channel orange and kaleidoscope dream are also 2 of my 3 favourite albums of this year, too, much like rev.

I can't fucking wait til everyone can hear Goldenheart

Me neither, so envious that you've heard it.

Goldenheart?

Channel Orange is great, but as a whole Swing Lo Magellan is better.

what

hahahaha

i love everyone's enthusiasm for i am curious orange, and i put on that album every few weeks bc everyone's investment in it is certainly interesting enough to me to want to figure it out for myself, and then twenty minutes later i forget that it's on.

i think "Pyramids" is pretty cool but the less ambitious normal-length songs on it are mostly pretty underwhelming to me, also dude sings like Omarion

omarion? reeeeally?

i love the falsetto on "thinkin' about you" but his usual singing voice, that sort of half-talking cadence feels really distant and uninvolving

oh he sounds totally like omarion, listen to the MMG album from this year xp

omarion is a good singer fwiw

what a relief that love/hate for OrangeyougonnalistentoMiguel ranges across the sexual divide.

be cool if he sounded like michael omartian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i24QiEYkzTU&feature=relmfu

but anyway while i hated the rhetoric about "a change in r&b" that surrounded orange crush when it came out i really liked a lot of the stuff on the actual ilx thread about its qualities as an album, regardless of whether i'm into it or not.

did anyone else love "confess" as much as me or am i alone on this one?

i am currently cobbling together ARMOR ON with YouTubes.

have never purchased anything from iTunes and won't be starting now; is there another way to acquire this, non-pirate style? was there a physical release. (sorry, lazy question)

[but anyway while i hated the rhetoric about "a change in r&b" that surrounded orange crush when it came out

mmm it hasn't gone away

pretty sure Armor On was only officially released digitally, no CD -- Amazon has it on MP3 but no physical media.

is there another way to acquire this, non-pirate style? was there a physical release. (sorry, lazy question)

no, no (and yes, lol). it was self-released.

to answer another question, goldenheart is the album to which armor on serves as prelude; it was due out in october but because of armor on's success she got a last-min physical distribution deal so it's been put back to january so they can make the CDs or whatever you do. the album itself is done and kinda mindblowingly good.

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it is still difficult to acquire pirate style, hence why i haven't.

i love everyone's enthusiasm for i am curious orange, and i put on that album every few weeks bc everyone's investment in it is certainly interesting enough to me to want to figure it out for myself, and then twenty minutes later i forget that it's on.

aka "this year's kid a."

Yeah, that sort of sums up my experience with it, tho I haven't tried super hard. It sounds fine when it's on, and I love "Super Rich Kids." Maybe the whole album will click with me at some point, but right now it mostly fades away for me.

huh. well, maybe i can acquire it some other way-style.

looking fwd to the album now. FIDLAR is out that day, too. good day.

I appreciate Frank Ocean's talent but so often he wanders off and starts singing about the most innane stuff in his pretty voice and it cheapens whatever he's trying to do. Yes, you can sing.. it still sounds dumb as hell when you sing stuff that you'd find in someone's facebook status update.

It's a nice album and it has grown on me for sure, but I really could not stand to listen to the whole thing when it first dropped in the summer. Super Rich Kids is great, Pink Matter with Andre 3000 is nice and Pyramids is a pretty good song but I have to admit I still don't quite understand the levels of praise that song alone has garnered

last time I listened to Channel Orange the song that really caught me was "Crack Rock"--the "crooked cop, dead cop" digression was more out-of-nowhere and poignant than you'd expect if you were just letting the album flow past you in the background

Goldenheart is a straight up appalling title.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/MK_Golden_Heart.jpg

Goat album and the Sharon Van Etten are the standouts from stuff I hadn't heard before they started appearing on year end lists. Looking back at the Van Etten thread and it seems her earlier albums are more enthused about than 'Tramp' but I'm not really feeling them tbh.