Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

RIght, seeing as how that "Final VU" box is £25 on ebay, I've ordered one.

We Shall See!

― Mark G, Monday, 22 October 2012 12:15 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, I got one, and have played CD1 so far.

It's funny, out of all four CDs, Doug Yule only sings one song, one time, that he sang while Lou was in the band: "Oh Sweet Nothing".

No "Candy Says", "Who loves the sun", "New Age", "She's my best Friend", nope.

VU-related, in some important/amazing ways--be there or be square, Jim:
http://boo-hooray.com/barbara-rubin/christmas-on-earth---barbara-rubin/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs

Sweet Sister Ray

http://philipjohnsonglasshouse.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/1967-glass-house-country-happening-with-merce-cunningham-john-cage-the-velvet-underground/
The film is archival footage of an event held at the Glass House in 1967 to benefit the Merce Cunningham Dance Company. Described as a “Country Happening” in Vogue Magazine, August 1967, Merce Cunningham dancers performed to music by John Cage, and later the Velvet Underground took the stage.
can't actually see any VU in the film, but maybe those groovy dancers at the end are twisting it to sister ray? funny to imagine the VU playing such a pastoral setting.

New WL/WH reissue package:

http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/invt/0602537540938

Believe there is another thread about that.

But surely we need to spread the word that there is a free flexidisc with every initial order from the website. I think it may be a track inside the package already but just think, rarity free with every £54.99 plus p+p spent there.

While stocks last !!!!!

This is where The End of Cole Ave once stood. This is where much of Live 1969 was recorded. *sigh*

"much" = less than half?

what's worse, that pic or this one?
http://www.matrixfillmore.com/images/photos/about/image-gallery/img5.jpg

sorry, "some" or "a chunk" or "the best songs from".

I never listen to 1969 anymore. Listen to the boot of the End of Cole Ave show instead.

IS that the Matrix? I couldn't bring myself to go by there when I was in San Francisco last week.

http://velvetundergroundacetate.com/
who's gonna buy it?!

Also, wtf the wooden box artifact?

They better include a free banana with that.

https://24.media.tumblr.com/b78978798405088c6a4f856da77bdbbc/tumblr_n6nkmwuEcV1t5kowbo1_500.jpg
feel like "train round the bonnnnd" is how nico would've sung that song.

Chelsea Girls sdtk: http://www.volcanictongue.com/tips

Are there any samples of this online anywhere? Saw it here:

http://littlebigchief.bigcartel.com/product/velvet-underground-chelsea-girls-s-sided-lp

and they have another record I'm interested in, http://littlebigchief.bigcartel.com/product/alien-city-lp

but I don't love to spend good money on new records I haven't heard these days.

https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10521177_10152567944675953_6049362458093982150_n.jpg
from lou's facebook page:

We thought it'd be cool to share a photograph of one of the more "mythical" artifacts of Lou and the VU.

Lou mentioned this in an interview a while back (Q Magazine in 1996, I think), that he'd recently unearthed a demo he had mailed to himself in 1965, the reason for which is known as "the poor man's copyright."

In classic Lou style, he had this to say about the discovery:
"I'm not going to listen it. I don't want to hear these things any more."

Well, here's what it looks like. And no, we haven't opened it.

would be interesting if it was different stuff than the demo released on Peel Slowly & See

as for the chelsea girls sdtk, i think this is at least part of it. sounds pretty great, would be curious to know if the bootleg is better sound quality (which is dire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUIKvSQ2so

According to the post below (originally from the Velvet Forum, reposted on Steve Hoffman), 3rd LP box coming:

Hi all

Good to see that folks are starting to wonder about the status of the 3rd Deluxe 45th.

So far Universal has been doing an excelent job with the Banana and Wl/Wh Deluxe sets, and the 3rd Album will not be an exception. Our guys will take good care of us!
This is what I can say at this point: a selection of the Peter Abrams Soundboard Tapes half inch, 4-track, stereo live recordings of the band at The Matrix Nov 1969 will be part of the Deluxe issue. The quality of these recordings is absolutely fanstatic
and the performances are superb.
As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings. Universal still working on which songs will appear, looks like 20 songs in 2 cds. Night and day with the Quine Tapes and Live 1969.

Juts these 2 cds will make the 3rd Deluxe a must for any VU fan.

Stay tuned

oh my god the Matrix recordings!!!!!!!

fanstatic indeed!

hmm this is the one I may have to get, if true

this would be nice. Hope it's true.

So, presumably it will be
CD1: Stereo + singles/promos
CD2: Mono + "VU" + "Another View" and a couple more rarities/unreleased
CD3+4 : Matrix selections

Not all of VU etc, obv, just the Yule tracks

I hope there is a cheap version of this with the live material. Though the 4 disc described above makes sense

will they include the closet mix and the regular mix, I wonder? This is looking like a must buy

As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings.

SO RELEASE THEM ALL!!

I was thinking that too, but I'm wondering if the other half (or near-half) has already been released on Live 1969. Because those are (mostly? kind of?) the same tapes, right?

And anyway, if they release part of the shows on this box, and then later release a Complete Live Matrix Recordings box, knowing Velvets fans will buy both, it's win-win! For Universal!

closet mix is so pointless

...except for the alternate 'Some Kinda Love", which is amazing

yeah that's the main diff. excited for the matrix stuff! it's about time. yeah, they might just go with stuff that is not the same performances as on Live 1969.

Yeah I'm p squarely in the regular mix camp, just curious how complete this'll be. I guess closet mix could be left as an enticement to backlist banana box purchasers.

Yeah..

There was a mono third l.p. In the sundazed box, which 'version' was it, closet or Valentin?

(which is the definition of a Velvet Underground trainspotting question)

vu & nico was 6 discs, right? this could easily be 6 discs if they decide to include the closet mix + "lost album" material. I think levenson has said that session tapes exist for the album, so there may be some cool alternates or or chatter. lou telling doug how to sing candy says, etc.

haha "sing just like me"

hmm, have only ever heard the closet mix

Really? The Valentin mix is more prevalent these days.

yeh i only heard the Valentin version recently for the first time, sounded all kinds of wrong after 20+ years of closetness

Back whenever, I bought the (expensive) Japanese issue, as it has always used the Val mix, for to hear it, finally.

Felt daft about 6 months later, when the cd edition came out with the val mix for ever..

Definitely prefer the Valentin mix but i heard that one first so that may be why. Like the Valentin some kinda love better.

I was so baffled when I heard that new Some Kinda Love on the 80's reissues, I had tracked down a french copy of the 3rd LP. I guess I prefer the Valentin mix (which is actually the original, right?), but I much prefer the closet take of SKL and feel sentimental about that mix as a whole.

I prefer Valentin mix/"Some Kinda Love" too, but not by a huge margin. It's the one I heard first and am most familiar with.

Well, it seems it's going to be a 6CD set!

CD1: The Val Valentin mix (stereo)
CD2: The 'closet' mix (stereo)
CD3: The mono promo mix, plus the a and b-side of the single
CD4: "Sessions"

1. FOGGY NOTION 6.44
2. ONE OF THESE DAYS 3.53
3. LISA SAYS 2.55
4. I'M STICKING WITH YOU 2.26
5. OCEAN 5.12
6. I CAN'T STAND IT 3.23
7. I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT IN 6.32
8. WE’RE GONNA HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME TOGETHER 2.57
9. ROCK AND ROLL 5.15
10. RIDE INTO THE SUN 3.26
11. SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND
12. FERRYBOAT BILL 2.15
13. ANDY'S CHEST 2.52
14. CONEY ISLAND STEEPLECHASE

CD6: "Live at the Matrix Part Two"

1 SISTER RAY (36.46)
2 HEROIN (8.18)
3 WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT (8.45)
4 I’M SET FREE (4.48)
5 AFTER HOURS (2.56)
6 SWEET JANE (4.20)

"Foggy Notion" better include that six-note dealie at the beginning.

Bill Levenson on the Steve Hoffman forums sez:

I saw your post today, and thought I'd comment.

The track listing you posted is incorrect. What you posted is an old work-in-progress list of mine, which has been updated. Disc 4 has been totally reworked to feature either original 1969 mixes, or new 2014 mixes that strip away the 1980s technology of the VU/Another View albums. We spent a lot of time working on Disc 4, and we're very happy with the way it turned out!

I hope this list doesn't mislead a lot of SH forum members and fans!

Regards,

Bill

Dammit, I liked the 80s mixes!

xp

it doesn't, those bastards:

http://www.discogs.com/Velvet-Underground-VU/release/1504773

note track time of 6:58

unless that's a mistake as well

for more insane detail see:

http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-velvet-underground-iv.html