Year-End Critics' Polls 2012

lol im cited & it contradicts the thesis of my piece u_u xxp

the worst part is the ppl who try to make it seem like this is the same genre as young jeezy or something b/c they bit some drum kit ideas from rap music

― D-40, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:04 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

do you really mean/have seen this or do you just mean toying around with the signifiers in a gross shallow way and then inferring the implication

40 Gojira – L’Enfant Sauvage (should have been way higher, but I'm biased)

I liked The Way of All Flesh as much as anyone on this board, I think, but I was a bit disappointed in L'Enfant.

Yeah, I was confused and thought Toy was the Norwegian band but it sounds like it isn't.

See, I think L'Enfant is a huge improvement over Way, which I actually think is the weakest of their recent albums. For me it goes L'Enfant, From Mars to Sirius, The Link, Way, Terra Incognita.

just generally, thread delivering like a mofo, thx ilx.

the worst part is the ppl who try to make it seem like this is the same genre as young jeezy or something b/c they bit some drum kit ideas from rap music

― D-40, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:04 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

do you really mean/have seen this or do you just mean toying around with the signifiers in a gross shallow way and then inferring the implication

― r|t|c, Friday, November 23, 2012 6:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every online piece on 'trap' has the same narrative of 'first it was invented by trap artists then lex luger then tnght and diplo and flosstradamus'

For me it goes L'Enfant, From Mars to Sirius, The Link, Way, Terra Incognita.

I don't like From Mars to Sirius much either, and that seems to be the one most Gojira fans rate, so maybe I'm more of a Way fan than a Gojira fan.

I remember and prolly still own the album by the Norwegian Toy, it was decent but sounded exactly like Plone to the point where it was creepy

I <3 Chr15 W31ng4rt3n.

I like him well enough normally but when he starts speaking like Dick Van Dyke on plant food he owns the keys to my heart.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KBUBlNndeLU/T-Uuy91ZjAI/AAAAAAAACm8/lEUaVO84Qcs/s1600/welcome-home-giant-plastic-banner-1186-p.jpg

A pint of milk is actually 49p at Tesco so that was a pretty good guess.

This Goat album is kind of fun actually.

you think?

I love Leonard Cohen, I have every album and I rate the new one but AOTY?

I ignored that album, then a friend had an extra ticket to see him last night. Dude is nearly 80 and he was dropping to his knees repeatedly and popping back up like he's in his 30s, and played over 3 and a half hours! Amazing. It was a bit too much for me all at once, but great to hear my favorites live, and his voice is in better shape than it was a few years ago. I guess the story is while he was living with Buddhist monks his business manager ripped off around 5 million from him leaving him broke, so he came out of retirement and hit the road, and started having a blast. There's some great songs on the new album, sounds more consistent to my ears than say, Various Positions and I'm Your Man. Still, I don't think it'll crack my top 100.

is this trap? a friend just sent it to me

― flopson, Friday, November 23, 2012 1:25 PM Bookmark

naw, that's post-dilla "beat scene" type stuff, which is an entirely different thing. there is a bit of crossover between the two scenes, but the track you posted isn't it.

is this trap? a friend just sent it to me

― flopson, Friday, November 23, 2012 9:25 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/it_317e0c_887774.jpg

lol

Ahaha

swans
scott walker

okay I am listening to "Colour's Running Out" by Toy and it's p awesome!

First part of the Guardian's list (40-21) is here

Farrah at no. 32!

YASSSSS fiona, farrah, ANGEL HAZE, DAWN!!!!!

it's like i voted in it or something

(for real though i consider any list without dawn or angel haze to have rendered itself irrelevant because were you even listening to music in 2012)

That's an interesting list so far...any idea how many people voted?

35 voters, I think.

that's a pretty Lex-friendly list :-)

It's VERY Lex. I think he's been voting under multiple aliases.

there isn't even much that i actively dislike (kmt @ gentrified r&b poliça though), but i guess i should be steeling myself for the upper echelons of the list

Is Polica any kind of R&B? It never occurred to me - it's like How to Dress Well.

The nature of Guardian music writers has changed a great deal in last few years. There's a large number of young R&B/hip-hop writers who have little or no interest in guitar music, alongside the older guitar music writers who have little or no interest in R&B and hip-hop. And then there are the few who have an interest in both.

how to dress well gets slotted into this gentrified r&b "revival", sadly

he makes the worst music

That's what I mean - I hear it in HTDW but Polica isn't so blatantly playing with R&B tropes.

xp To me the list seems more polarised than ever. In the lower reaches there seem to be two entirely different constituencies alternating - did anyone vote for the Cribs AND Dawn Richard?

I'm still periodically surprised that anyone rates the Cribs, and that they've somehow avoided the fate of every other middle-ranking band from that era.

Yeah, I agree: a very polarised list.

you could ask who would possibly vote for both fiona apple and angel haze too though, but i did

You could argue it's balanced rather than polarized, or more balanced than these lists usually are, although that does depend on what fills up the top half of the list.

Voter fraud. People be voting for rap because they get free stuff all the time.

The Cribs got some indie cred for the Albini production job I think.

Can't stand the Cribs, but they get credit for constantly banging on about how indie they are, I think. Albini's just one facet of that. People like them because they represent Old Guard Uncorrupted Indiers Doing It Their Way Without Hype.

I actually really like that Cribs record. I also recently tried to listen to their debut and it was one of the worst pieces of shit I have ever set ears on, so I guess they improved.

Albini only produced one track.

ah okay.

I'm not saying it's bad at all - I like the variety - but it is polarised. It's a bit like the mid-80s NME with the soulboys vs the Smiths fans, only much more cordial. There are virtually two rival consensuses which rarely overlap.

Thumbs up on the Guardian list to Orbital (well, just about), Beach House (most definitely), Dexys, Mala, Jack White, Bright Light Bright Light, Actress (HELL YES), Dawn Richard, Jam City (sort of).

Old Guard Uncorrupted Indiers Doing It Their Way Without Hype

Pretty sure everyone was saying this in 2007 even when it was patently untrue, and I don't hear anything in their music that strikes me as demonstrably superior to The Rakes or The Enemy or whoever else has justifiably fallen by the wayside. And those guys didn't manage to get Johnny Marr on a record.

omg i forgot how much of a TREAT the guardian commenters were last year after we hit them with beyoncé and katy b

"Hey, Slater, what are you listening to?"
"Hey, preppie, you're behind the times. It's called 'trap' and it's the freshest thing since 'blip'."

xpost Didn't say it was true; just that it seems to be what people see the Cribs as representing (and how they present themselves).

So here's what the students at Oxford have been getting into:

http://oxfordstudent.com/2012/11/23/the-twenty-best-albums-of-2012/

(same old guff as all these other lists basically)