Frank Ocean is my current prediction to win P&J.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
will there be a P&J?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
channel orange is my favourite album of the year, without a doubt.
― childish bambino (rennavate), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Alfred asked what I was going to ask. (And if there is one, will people vote?)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
The game is afoot!
Decibel’s Top 40 Albums Of 2012
40 Gojira – L’Enfant Sauvage39 Meshuggah – Koloss38 Agalloch – Faustian Echoes EP37 The Shrine – Primitive Blast36 Incantation – Vanquish In Vengeance35 Samothrace – Reverence To Stone34 Devin Townsend Project – Epicloud33 Panopticon – Kentucky32 Saint Vitus – LILLIE: F-6531 Mutilation Rites – Empyrean30 Author & Punisher – Urus Americanus29 A Life Once Lost – Ecstatic Trance28 Asphyx – Deathhammer27 Farsot – Insects26 Gaza – No Absolute For Human Suffering25 Inverloch – Dark/Subside24 Swans – The Seer23 Horrendous – The Chills22 Killing Joke – MMXII21 Early Graves – Red Horse20 Liberteer – Better To Die On Your Feet Than Live On Your Knees19 High On Fire – De Vermis Mysteriis18 Napalm Death – Utiltarian17 Torche – Harmonicraft16 Grave – Endless Procession Of Souls15 Satan’s Wrath – Galloping Blasphemy14 Testament – Dark Roots Of Earth13 Cattle Decapitation – Monolith Of Inhumanity12 Blut Aus Nord – 777: Cosmosophy11 Municipal Waste – The Fatal Feast10 Pig Destroyer – Book Burner09 Paradise Lost – Tragic Idol08 Royal Thunder – CVI07 Enslaved – Riitiir06 Neurosis – Honor Found In Decay05 Pallbearer – Sorrow and Extinction04 Witchcraft – Legend03 Evoken – Altra Mors02 Baroness – Yellow & Green01 Converge – All We Love We Leave Behind
Decibel is always full of surprises. While Dawnbringer's Nucleus was #4 in 2010, the new one didn't even make the list. Gojira is a little low! I'm glad to see Baroness up there after the beatdowns it's received, but it's even higher than I'd expect! Pleasantly surprised to see Witchcraft and Royal Thunder up high, but then where are Graveyard and Christian Mistress? Neurosis are cool of course, but their labelmates/buds Ufomammut kick the shit out of that album. Similarly, I'd take the Conan album over Pallbearer's, which I like, but would rate it down closer to the Saint Vitus.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
Pleasantly surprised to see Witchcraft and Royal Thunder up high, but then where are Graveyard and Christian Mistress?
Especially since the latter two are approximately 100x better than the ones Decibel liked.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
yep. It looks like maybe 2 of their top 40 would be in mine, but then again I haven't heard about 1/3 of these.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
The yep was for 誤訳侮辱 seconding fastnbulbous. I'm in total agreement on those two.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
My annotation of the Decibel list:
40 Gojira – L’Enfant Sauvage (should have been way higher, but I'm biased)39 Meshuggah – Koloss (didn't like)38 Agalloch – Faustian Echoes EP (didn't hear)37 The Shrine – Primitive Blast (didn't like)36 Incantation – Vanquish In Vengeance (haven't heard yet but I like the band a bunch)35 Samothrace – Reverence To Stone (who?)34 Devin Townsend Project – Epicloud (pfft)33 Panopticon – Kentucky (who?)32 Saint Vitus – LILLIE: F-65 (should have been higher)31 Mutilation Rites – Empyrean (who?)30 Author & Punisher – Urus Americanus (didn't hear)29 A Life Once Lost – Ecstatic Trance (didn't hear, but I like the band, but I also like Emmure)28 Asphyx – Deathhammer (meh)27 Farsot – Insects (who?)26 Gaza – No Absolute For Human Suffering (didn't hear)25 Inverloch – Dark/Subside (who?)24 Swans – The Seer (didn't like)23 Horrendous – The Chills (who?)22 Killing Joke – MMXII (meh)21 Early Graves – Red Horse (didn't hear)20 Liberteer – Better To Die On Your Feet Than Live On Your Knees (weird isn't the same thing as good)19 High On Fire – De Vermis Mysteriis (sure, OK - not as good as the last one)18 Napalm Death – Utiltarian (awesome; should have been top 5)17 Torche – Harmonicraft (this is a Foo Fighters album and has no business in a metal poll)16 Grave – Endless Procession Of Souls (yay, love Grave)15 Satan’s Wrath – Galloping Blasphemy (didn't hear)14 Testament – Dark Roots Of Earth (didn't hear - who did?)13 Cattle Decapitation – Monolith Of Inhumanity (didn't hear but they've always bored me)12 Blut Aus Nord – 777: Cosmosophy (didn't hear)11 Municipal Waste – The Fatal Feast (didn't hear)10 Pig Destroyer – Book Burner (OK but they've still never topped Terrifyer and never will)09 Paradise Lost – Tragic Idol (didn't hear)08 Royal Thunder – CVI (pfft)07 Enslaved – Riitiir (yawn)06 Neurosis – Honor Found In Decay (yawn)05 Pallbearer – Sorrow and Extinction (yawn)04 Witchcraft – Legend (their weakest album - wtf?)03 Evoken – Altra Mors (who?)02 Baroness – Yellow & Green (awesome record, should have been #1)01 Converge – All We Love We Leave Behind (a very good Converge album, consequently deserving of #10 at best)
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
Samothrace are worth hearing. Given how well Baroness and Torche did, I wonder if the staff heard and considered other non-extreme metal along the lines of Wo Fat and At Devil Dirt. I like the High On Fire, but I rate Castle, Witch Mountain, Owl, Venomous Maximus, The Sword, Alunah, Black Moth, Kadavar and Heat over it.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
i'm always surprised by how early these start coming out, kind of a bummer tbh
― flopson, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
Need to get them out of the way before the Big One.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
yeah feels p shitty
― f (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
how many lists are gonna have farrah abraham on it
― teledyldonix, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't wind up putting her on my year-end list for The Wire, but felt bad about the oversight.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
ILM list will.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
Flopson OTM
I only really care about The Wire list because I get clued into stuff I might wanna investigate that I wasn't already aware of
All other lists - including those I vote as part of - are more a "what do other ppl care about" exercise that's only occasionally startling
I fuck with the Fiona, which is the only album on my list that has any hope of going near #1
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link
Oh my god, Fiona is gonna make The Wire list isn't she. The geezers who normally would vote for Robert Wyatt or Scott Walker are gonna vote for her aren't they. I wonder if the same will happen if Taylor Swift makes an art rock album a decade from now?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
I thought Swift recorded one already...?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
I usually listen to at least 600-800 new releases a year, yet all the year-end lists together still prompt me to check out at least another hundred albums I missed, and I usually find at least a dozen or so I like enough to make my top 100. So when anyone says none of the lists are useful, it sounds kind of unnecessarily . . . smug might be too harsh. Overconfident that you've heard everything that you'd like?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
The geezers who normally would vote for Robert Wyatt or Scott Walker are gonna vote for Scott Walker imo.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
i think the word is 'knowing', fastnbulbous. or 'complacent'.
― j., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
fiona apple won't make the wire list
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
The only album I didn't hear on the Decibel list was Horrendous. I'm shocked Dawnbringer, Graveyard, and Christian Mistress didn't make it. As much as I like Witchcraft, it shouldn't be that high and is nowhere near the best album of its kind in 2012. Also, Profound Lore really got the cold shoulder for some reason...the label had an outstanding year in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Profound Lore really got the cold shoulder for some reason...the label had an outstanding year in my opinion.
I'm avoiding scrolling over the list, but this really does seem like a big oversight. Profound Lore really had a fantastic year. Just scrolling through their 2012 releases and I'm seeing tons of fantastic stuff - Pallbearer, Bosse-de-Nage, Indesinence, Yakuza, Dysrhythmia, Witch Mountain, Evoken, Aldebaran...
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
that's two in decibel's top ten...?
― j., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Well, like I said, I'm avoiding spoilers on that list, so I was just going on what Adrien said.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
"Usefulness" is a relative concept. Xpost
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Like, for instance, I'm not a fan of metal really. I don't have anything against it but. So the Decibel list isn't significant for me, though I'm not dismissing it... Does that make sense? I understand why it matters to other people.
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
xp I'm curious, what besides Graveyard do you consider of Witchcraft's kind that's better? Or do we have to wait for your list? ;)
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
The Fly:
40 - Allah-Las: Allah-Las39 - Mystery Jets: Radlands38 - Best Coast: The Only Place37 - The Invisible: Rispah36 - Liars: WIXIW35 - Howler: America Give Up34 - David Byrne & St. Vincent: Love This Giant33 - Animal Collective: Centipede Hz32 - Beach House: Bloom31 - Here We Go Magic: A Different Ship30 - Graham Coxon: A+E29 - Poliça: Give You The Ghost28 - TOY: TOY27 - Chairlift: Something26 - Bat For Lashes: The Haunted Man25 - Melody's Echo Chamber: Melody's Echo Chamber24 - Daughn Gibson: All Hell23 - Twin Shadow: Confess22 - Dirty Projectors: Swing Lo Magellan21 - The Cribs: In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull20 - King Tuff: King Tuff19 - Diiv: Oshin18 - Pond: Beard Wives Denim17 - The xx: Coexist16 - The Vaccines: The Vaccines Come Of Age15 - Purity Ring: Shrines14 - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti: Mature Themes13 - Grizzly Bear: Shields12 - Alt-J: An Awesome Wave11 - Lana del Rey: Born To Die10 - Tame Impala: Lonerism9 - The Maccabees: Given To The Wild8 - Kindness: World You Need A Change Of Mind7 - Field Music: Plumb6 - Django Django: Django Django5 - Jessie Ware: Devotion4 - Cat Power: Sun3 - Frank Ocean: Channel Orange2 - Grimes: Visions1 - Sharon Van Etten: Tramp
― Bee OK, Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
that's an entire list of bands i didn't know released albums in 2012
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think it'll make my list but I finally got around to listening to that Jessie Ware record and its quite good.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
ppl actually like that Grimes album, huh?
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
did you think all the people in the ilm thread were pretending?
― j., Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
which thread is that
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm glad to see Grimes showing up on these lists, but disapointed that iamamiwhoami's Kin isn't and probably won't, although it's just as good.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
which one?
the thread with 'grimes' in the title that has been full of chatter all year long that you can search for
― j., Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:31 (eleven years ago) link
I cannot tell the Grimes and Purity Ring records apart. Grimes is the slightly more gibberishy one, I think.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard two of those.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:57 (eleven years ago) link
oh cool is this the thread where we brag about how much music we didn't listen to
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:57 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to a lot of music.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link
Likewise, including the two I mentioned above. I just didn't like them.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
40 - Allah-Las: Allah-Las (who?)39 - Mystery Jets: Radlands (what is this? sounds dumb)38 - Best Coast: The Only Place (never heard of this)37 - The Invisible: Rispah (REALLY Invisible if you ask me)36 - Liars: WIXIW (they put out an album this year? LOL)35 - Howler: America Give Up (Who-ler is more like it because i dont know WHO they are)34 - David Byrne & St. Vincent: Love This Giant (Ok wau D Byrne is still alive? what?!)33 - Animal Collective: Centipede Hz (Didnt these guys just put out an album?!)32 - Beach House: Bloom (Am I thinking of Beach Fossils? WHAT?)31 - Here We Go Magic: A Different Ship (Great DISAPPEARING ACT because i have never heard of you)30 - Graham Coxon: A+E (Huh+What?)29 - Poliça: Give You The Ghost (Is this Stings band idk)28 - TOY: TOY (never heard)27 - Chairlift: Something (more like nothing because you are nothing to me wanted yall 2 know)26 - Bat For Lashes: The Haunted Man (Saw the pube on the cover and passed)25 - Melody's Echo Chamber: Melody's Echo Chamber (Accidentally deleted from iTunes)24 - Daughn Gibson: All Hell (Not on Spotify so #NEAUX1CURRRRR)23 - Twin Shadow: Confess (is this rap i dont listen to rap)22 - Dirty Projectors: Swing Lo Magellan (lost CD before I could play it fuck)21 - The Cribs: In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull (British band, refuse to play on principle)20 - King Tuff: King Tuff (King Nothing is more like it who are these bands is the The Wire's list hahah)19 - Diiv: Oshin (megaupload down can any1 get this for me help)18 - Pond: Beard Wives Denim (sounds dumb)17 - The xx: Coexist (heard one of their songs in a commercial two years ago PASS)16 - The Vaccines: The Vaccines Come Of Age (THIS IS STILL A BAND HOW IS THIS A THING IS THIS A THING)15 - Purity Ring: Shrines (Thought I heard this but it was "Grimes")14 - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti: Mature Themes (This came out in 2008 I thought. Wait)13 - Grizzly Bear: Shields (My file was corrupted idk)12 - Alt-J: An Awesome Wave (?????)11 - Lana del Rey: Born To Die (People really like this huh? I had no idea. People?)10 - Tame Impala: Lonerism (Wow. Tame Impala is still around huh. Wow.)9 - The Maccabees: Given To The Wild (\O_o/)8 - Kindness: World You Need A Change Of Mind (??????????? where do you people even find this music)7 - Field Music: Plumb (wut)6 - Django Django: Django Django (how do i even google this HELLO)5 - Jessie Ware: Devotion (i dont like metal it's stupid)4 - Cat Power: Sun (Did we even have a thread on this?)3 - Frank Ocean: Channel Orange (dumb pop R&B crap, next)2 - Grimes: Visions (thought i heard this but it was Sky Ferrari)1 - Sharon Van Etten: Tramp (never heard of this)
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:09 (eleven years ago) link
just occurred to me that 2/3rds of GAPDYX dropped albums this year
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link
Listened to Grimes when it came out. Listening again now. It's still a mess.
If we're comparing the two - someone mentioned it up there - the Purity Ring is much better.
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 November 2012 07:30 (eleven years ago) link
several of these bands, like "toy" and "goat", i don't even believe in their existence
25 - Melody's Echo Chamber: Melody's Echo Chamber (Accidentally deleted from iTunes)
i listened to this one the other day! it sounded like it might potentially be up my street and i wanted to show willing. it was extremely boring.
8 - Kindness: World You Need A Change Of Mind (??????????? where do you people even find this music)
i wish i lived in a world where kindness prompted extreme bafflement (his music is terrrrrrrrible)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link
cat power is kinda confusing cuz i like her and i thought that album was a mess, and i thought that was the consensus
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link
Spiders, Horisont, and Troubled Horse.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:38 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm, I wonder what age the readers of Slicing Up Eyeballs are.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Cumulatively?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
Slicing Up Eyeballs needs to hear the Lee Ranaldo solo record which is really excellent.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I wanna see their top 50. It's weird enough listening to The Fixx in 2013, but I learned there were also new albums by Men Without Hats and Saga! Anyone remember "On The Loose"?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
Those Ultravox and Killing Joke albums are both pretty good.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
The KJ made a decent showing in overall polls. I listened to Ultravox once yesterday, need to hear again. I didn't like the PiL or Dead Can Dance much.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
Levene/Wobble album was slept on
― Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
The Men Without Hats album is one decent song played over and over and over and over again
― DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Is that song Safety Dance?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
no
― DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
Top 10 today in Metal Poll 2012 - The Countdown
― Metal Poll Countdown FINISHES TODAY! (ɷ), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone remember "On The Loose"?
Of course! Part of that whole Canadian wave that was huge on rock radio in the early '80s (at least in western NY, where I was a young teen). Loverboy, Triumph, Saga, Red Rider, Aldo Nova -- and Rush towering over all of them.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
My ILX albums ballot--which, beyond the quality control of Pazz and Nash Scene Top Tens, now incl Tempest (like most of the music, less of the words, though he does still know how to strike a effective pose, and main thing is: he's really into pre-emptive strikes vs. Time and Ol' Lady-with-a-rolling-pin Muse' also a flesh 'n' blood ol' lady, sounds like). Death Grips, Rufus Wainwright, The xx all offer albums that are only about half good, but their goodies can satisfy in ways that notning else quite did in '12, which is the main criterion for Top Tens as well, so why not in a Top However Many This Is:Best Coast - The Only PlaceBob Dylan - TempestCat Power - SunCorin Tucker Band - Kill My BluesCraig Finn - Clear Heart Full EyesDirty Projectors - Swing Lo MagellanDeath Grips - The Money StoreDeath Grips - No Love Deep WebDwight Yoakam - 3 PearsFiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...Giant Giant Sand - TucsonJustin Townes Earle - Nothing's Going To Change The Way You Feel About Me NowKelly Hogan - I Like to Keep Myself in PainNeil Young & Crazy Horse - AmericanaNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Psychedelic PillNeneh Cherry & The Thing - The Cherry ThingThe Mountain Goats - Transcendental YouthThe xx - CoexistRufus Wainwright - Out Of The GameSantigold - Master Of My Make Believe
― dow, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
cool to see someone else w/ the Yoakam and Wainwright on their list!
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Not that others don't have soft spots, but nothing that makes them any of them less than keepers
― dow, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
clemenza: I love your top 10, only one I didn't quite get is number 2. It seems to me like you're praising the music and saying you don't really care about the lyrics. Why not list the Jamie XX and Gil Scott Heron version instead?
― Moka, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
Mimaroglu Music Sales / Keith Fullerton Whitman's (pre?)list of music concrete, modular synth, drone, noise, academic experimentalism and all points between and beyond can be found here - http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/best.php?year=2012 - in their words "far from "definitive" ; here's a simple, running tally of the titles that have been "rating" thusfar in 2012"
(So far, I've found a handful of things that seem, from the excerpts on the site, to be rather outstanding)
― neilasimpson, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/albums/2012/
Pazz & Jop thread, aka when is the official deadline for this thing?
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/from-eric-church-to-jamey-johnson-2012-found-country-music-in-a-holding-pattern-and-searching-for-role-models/Content?oid=3230383
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
Just came across this one:http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-4-49-1/
I actually found more interesting choices in the 99-50 page, especially a bunch of punk I haven't heard by Bite Back, Argy Bargy, White Lung and New War.
http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-three-99-50/
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Don't forget Louder Than War numbers 200 - 101:
http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-one-200-150/
http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-two-149-100/
Massive celebrations round Damon Albarn's house for reaching that coveted 197 spot.
― Effing Baby, Friday, 18 January 2013 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
Moka: thanks. I love the music on "Take Care," also the lyrics. They just happened to remind me, because of Rihanna's ordeals, of Faking It and that age-old debate about what makes something authentic. When she sings that line about being hurt, it may or may not resonate more because of biography, depending upon how important that is to you--and I was trying to contrast that with Drake, who may or may not be at the opposite end of the spectrum, depending etc. Maybe I garbled the point. I also missed (pointed out on the P&J thread) that that line goes back to an old Bobby Bland song. (I actually have the song on a greatest hits, but was never a big fan.) Ultimately, though, I do always place music ahead of lyrics.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 January 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
Jon Pareles's Top 10 w his comments, nice reading:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-pareless-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Farts%2Fmusic%2Findex.jsonp
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
Nate Chinen's Top 10---Truesdale's Newly Discovered Works of Gil Evans mostly sounded really good at Newport---not that this is all jazz:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/nate-chinens-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?_r=1&
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
Not jazz but oo-wee mama, oo-oo-wee:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-caramanicas-top-10-albums-of-2012.html
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
clem: "Take Care" didn't make my ballot because I included it last year but otherwise I agree: one of her (and his) few convincing performances.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry for spamming but any interested parties have ~8 hours to submit a ballot in that prince among critics' polls: the ILM end-of-year poll!
― LAST DAY to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/The-Dean-s-List-2012/ba-p/9707
And of course his address to the troops, from an "outlier" now (welcome)http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/May-the-Consensus-Have-Consequences/ba-p/9709
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ him referring to "Dre's evolved jeep-beats" on the Kendrick album
Pink's The Truth About Love was on 10 Pazz & Jop ballots, which seems to have been driven primarily by Christgau's enthusiasm. her (far better) previous album Funhouse only got 1 vote in 2008 (wasn't me, which i regret -- at the time it was #14 on my list).
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Saturday, 19 January 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
i'd like to see a lot more of Ka's Grief Pedigree on these lists
― alpine static, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:02 PM (8 months ago)
^^ was correct
― j., Monday, 12 August 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link